Mental Health Which psychiatric drug to cause hypomania?

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When I was on antidepressants (several SSRIs at different times) I had hypomania. I felt powerful and better than everybody else in the world in all ways that matter. I felt like I was a god. I enjoyed it immensely. I was more productive. There were no downsides to the hypomania itself. I had full insight. I had to stop antidepressants because of the increasing tardive side effects. The hypomania faded. I want to feel it again.

I see anecdotes that aripiprazole induces mania in some people. For those who have had it: What dose did you use and for how much time until you started experiencing it? Did it fade with continued use? Does it have grandiosity or only stimulation?

What drugs other than sertonin reuptake inhibitors cause grandiose hypomania like this?
 
If you have Bipolar, SSRI's will induce extreme hypomania. This happens a lot with undiagnosed bipolar people when psychiatrists prescribe SSRI's. Funny enough, this is how a lot of people find out they are Bipolar.

Abilify, aripiprazole, is an antipsychotic as you probably are well aware of. There are anecdotal reports everywhere of almost every single antipsychotic drug causing hypomania in some patients. It really just depends on each person. It may or may not work on you. A different antipsychotic may induce hypomania in you. Many patients try a range of different antipsychotics to find one that DOESN'T cause hypomania because it is undesirable. It really just depends on your specific neurochemistry. There is no specific 'fit' for everyone.

I take vraylar and I would say that it causes hypomania somedays. But this could just be because I'm bipolar.

One question I have for you though is, why do you want hypomania? In the long run, it is not a good thing. I'm bipolar and I can tell you if that it is not all 'sunshine and roses'. It will drive you mad with sleep deprivation after while and cause you to do weird things that you wouldn't usually do. It can cause you to ruin relationships. Especially after an hypomanic episode, there is a 'comedown' of depression. Is it really worth it?
 
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dopamine reuptake inhibitor

Methylphenidate gives you motivation and efficiency. lt lacks the grandiosity of hypomania.

becouse she make you enjoy in things that's not in your favor

I do not understand. Can you please elaborate?

If you have Bipolar, SSRI's will induce extreme hypomania.

I am not bipolar. I have seen the claim
  • SSRIs gave me mania.
  • “If SSRIs cause you mania then you have bipolar PD”.
  • I am not bipolar.
  • “Then you had latent bipolar PD”
  • Why do you believe that?
  • “Because if you were not bipolar, SSRIs would not have given you mania”.
This is circular reasoning.

One question I have for you though is, why do you want hypomania? In the long run, it is not a good thing. I'm bipolar and I can tell you if that it is not all 'sunshine and roses'. It will drive you mad with sleep deprivation after while and cause you to do weird things that you wouldn't usually do.

Do you mean that you lose control of yourself with hypomania? That does not happen to me.

Also, yes the manic episodes will fade with continued use of the drug I believe. This is because you will need greater amounts of the drug to produce the effect. Eventually, your prescriber can only prescribe so much.

No. The effect faded because I discontinued use because of unrelated side effects.

I take vraylar and I would say that it causes hypomania somedays.

I am interested in hearing about your experience.
  • What dose do you use? For how long have you used it?
  • Does it cause you brain fog?
  • Does it increase or decrease libido in you?
  • Does it give you anhedonia or lack of motivation when you are not on hypomania?
  • There is an anecdotal report that it helped to focus. Does it have that effect on you too?
 
On paxil I felt like I was rolling on E when I took it. Seriously didn’t care about anything (I guess) or not enough to not let that feeling facilitate a major relapse 5 years ago. No other SSRI has been like that for me. Not nearly so much anyway. I’m bipolar as well and can wind up in these states with recreational use and abuse too like alcohol can be a big mania trigger. Meth can be. Pretty much anything that’s powerful like those are really.

I was drunk mostly for a few months an entire summer and I felt like I was in top of the world. I was a homeless couchsurfing street musician scraping by on some savings and whatever I made on the street. I was having so much fun, so happy, and was ecstatic day I was with nowhere to go and no money and end of my rope. For awhile. Felt so free it’s fucked up.

that’s more like full on delusional mania I think though

routine grandiose hypomania is say again particularly meth and alcohol have caused that. I’m always in some state or another and those are the most enduring addictions that have whizzed me down those roads feeling like life’s bigger and I’m in more control than I actually am at the time. Which is next to none in that state because I’m really not in control what follows crash or burn or whatever.

I had an experience with LSD that was really hypomanic for awhile recently too. Extremely depressing at the tail end and after.

most drugs can probably exacerbate a bipolar disorder. Or relieve it, but man a lot of drugs make that more intense.
 
I looked up what hypomania means, and fit me to a tee these past weeks; obsession with fanciful creative ideas, lack of focus or attention, lack of sleep, grandiose thinking, over confidence, overly extroverted than normal, etc. In my case my doctors took me off cymbalta, though they didn't tell me that was what they were doing. During that time I did go pretty full scale hypomanic and dared my wife to do something about it. I ended up in the psych unit for a few days, and my medication was switched to zyprexa. I'm back now, and pretty much under control, as much as I can be in the circumstance. Anyway, not a fun thing to go through. I don't wish that on anyone on bluelight, or anywhere else, for that matter. My best guess to not repeat - no more psychedelics, no more smoking pot, no more 1 drink at night - given where I find myself its about the best I can do.
 
@Alex_1991: Thanks. It is a very informative reply.

On paxil I felt like I was rolling on E when I took it. Seriously didn’t care about anything (I guess) or not enough to not let that feeling facilitate a major relapse 5 years ago. No other SSRI has been like that for me.

Did paroxetine (Paxil) give you delusions of grandiosity with insight?

I’m bipolar as well and can wind up in these states with recreational use and abuse too like alcohol can be a big mania trigger. Meth can be. Pretty much anything that’s powerful like those are really.

Interesting.
  • What dose and route of administration of methamphetanine?
  • Does it give you delusions of grandiosity with insight?
  • Is this realistically attainable with prescribed doses of ADHD stimulants (say, 50 mg of dextroamphetamine per day)?
I was drunk mostly for a few months an entire summer and I felt like I was in top of the world. I was a homeless couchsurfing street musician scraping by on some savings and whatever I made on the street. I was having so much fun, so happy, and was ecstatic day I was with nowhere to go and no money and end of my rope. For awhile. Felt so free it’s fucked up.

that’s more like full on delusional mania I think though

I know what you mean. The strict description is “delusion with insight”. You feel as if you were omnipotent, had unlimtied skill, could freely chose your destiny without the constraints of society or similar. At the same time you know that it is not true and this keeps you from getting in trouble. This is what I want. What drug do you recommend? Preferably something that can be obtained legally with a prescription.

There are very few reports of maniac delusions with insight. It seems to be rare. Most people who have maniac delusions let the mania control them and work against them. Thus they claim “mania = bad” as some users above. Probably the few people who can control their maniac delusions and use the for their favor rarely talk about it because of fear of being involuntarily committed. If you enjoy yourself this much, psychiatry with its prejudices sees you as a disease to be eradicated.
 
@Alex_1991: Thanks. It is a very informative reply.



Did paroxetine (Paxil) give you delusions of grandiosity with insight?



Interesting.
  • What dose and route of administration of methamphetanine?
  • Does it give you delusions of grandiosity with insight?
  • Is this realistically attainable with prescribed doses of ADHD stimulants (say, 50 mg of dextroamphetamine per day)?


I know what you mean. The strict description is “delusion with insight”. You feel as if you were omnipotent, had unlimtied skill, could freely chose your destiny without the constraints of society or similar. At the same time you know that it is not true and this keeps you from getting in trouble. This is what I want. What drug do you recommend? Preferably something that can be obtained legally with a prescription.

There are very few reports of maniac delusions with insight. It seems to be rare. Most people who have maniac delusions let the mania control them and work against them. Thus they claim “mania = bad” as some users above. Probably the few people who can control their maniac delusions and use the for their favor rarely talk about it because of fear of being involuntarily committed. If you enjoy yourself this much, psychiatry with its prejudices sees you as a disease to be eradicated.
Paxil did not give me much insight, I was out of my mind and by the time I was off the Paxil I was back in a heavy alcohol addiction and I’d triggered the bipolar episode and I’d made my choices. It was a heavy summer for me. I don’t regret those experiences really but I don’t want to be back in that spot again. I’ve been back in some spots though, I think that year was the first in my most major series of just being fucked up and completely reckless out of my dome completely.

Amps I’ve used every which way in doses up to 1/2 to a G meth at a time IV at the peak of my last meth addiction. Just a couple weeks ago now I’ve been off the crystal.

The only clarity in that state I find is in moderate amphetamine doses aka not totally spun or drunk too or whatever I’m usually doing. When amphetamines work for me, I’m regulating my dose and level of intoxication to a more therapeutic level, just taking my prescribed it’s a wonder drug. It really makes me feel well and gives me some clarity that I don’t really have a way of tapping into otherwise.

That being said, it’s a fine line to walk and I’ve been way out of control for some time. It’s good when it’s good, and the rest of the time it’s more building the delusion and more psychotic states of mind than anything.

It’s really world building in a really negative way where it’s bound actually affect your character in a negative way because your thoughts do kind of become your reality, and if they’re all fucked up from being in an offstate for too long that’s no longer really an off state, it’s just always on. Always on the verge in psychosis if not in it, always on the precipice of absolute disaster or ruin to the deepest level. People who do meth wind up fucked up, totally delusional and demoralized in so many ways.

I would not recommend trying to achieve from any recreational standpoint as in not discussed thoroughly with your doctor... a medicinal level of relief or actual clarity from it, any amphetamines, to someone who’s prone to addiction or already hooked on the shit especially. I am still trying to manage it, but it’s precarious.

Im eally just going for harm reduction more than anything now (meaning there’s still harm). I get one weeks worth at a time and do urinalysis for meth to get my vyvanse now. It lasts 2-3 days. That’s the best I’ve managed this whole year after a long run of pure addiction hell and I’m into some alcohol and pot and whatever comes my way too.. been hooked into meth since 3 years ago and first tried it, even abused at times much farther back then that.

It’s amazing when a substance works and you can get into a positive frame of mind that feels good and in control, mind expanding, but it’s really the exception I think to what most people can manage with these powerful substances.

Amps are really, not worth the investment if you’re just kind of soul seeking like this and trying to find these “manic delusions with insight”. I need to press here that even with insight it’s still delusion and you’re creating a fantasy world you can’t possibly make into something totally concrete in a positive or healthy way because it’s like all fiction, unattainable except in passing and remote from who and what you really are. It’s a big disappointment and honestly my memory is so shot now most of the great thoughts I’ve ever had on it just passed me by while the nightmare remained.

with amps it’s at the cost of your brains natural ability to feel well and connected. It a warm blanket at the cost of the heating in your house and then the fat in your body, the world around and inside you is no longer regulated properly. Then the blanket gets really old and worn out really fast, there’s essentially nothing left but this inner death, hallow state.

All the ego building and spiritual degradation makes a fine mix for the opposite of what was intended to begin with; trying to achieve insight and wellness, grandeur, hypomania, whatever makes the world go by.

many do use amps to a good degree and people do get things under control, but here’s the straight man.. if you wind up in addiction the relapse rate is 88% with or without treatment. There’s no good earworm to the tune of being most likely fucked and in and out of your mind forever, not when its about you and you hear own psyche screaming that cacophony saying you're just fucked.
 
It’s a big disappointment and honestly my memory is so shot now most of the great thoughts I’ve ever had on it just passed me by while the nightmare remained.

Do you attribute this to use of high doses of methamphetamine?

Im eally just going for harm reduction more than anything now (meaning there’s still harm). I get one weeks worth at a time and do urinalysis for meth to get my vyvanse now. It lasts 2-3 days. That’s the best I’ve managed this whole year after a long run of pure addiction hell and I’m into some alcohol and pot and whatever comes my way too.. been hooked into meth since 3 years ago and first tried it, even abused at times much farther back then that.

I wish you good luck.

Sorry I don't know English much sometimes I I use translator I mean ability will increase your ability to enjoy complex things and might be Wed it's partial agonist on dopamine 2 and 3

Thanks. Do you say this from your own experience?
 
Do you attribute this to use of high doses of methamphetamine?



I wish you good luck.



Thanks. Do you say this from your own experience?
Absolutely the constant higher doses on the daily and escalating over time attribute to this, and thank you I appreciate it.
 
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