Chapter II: The Abyss is Eternal !

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PtahTek said:
is this the gorgeous women thread? may be lost again....
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DeadManWalkin' said:
I'm not on opiate maintance fucking deranged Sherlock.
If you knew something about opiate maintance, you would know that they don't give you doses like 1mg.
They give you doses like 14-36mg.
Escaping from my fate? Yeah yeah, Mr. Big brain.
Big boy 7D chess that only your neantherdal brains understand.
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That isn't true. I know many people on 2-3mg doses, even sub 1mg on a taper. Less is more with subs due to the antagonist.

If you aren't on maintenance, why are you using an antagonist? Its that shitty there you guys use bupe to get high? LOL.

Here you go...a study.

Peterson cited a 2008 meta-analysis that concluded:


“The review of trials found that buprenorphine at medium (8 mg ‐15 mg) and high doses (16mg) can reduce heroin use effectively compared with placebo, although it is less effective than methadone, especially if methadone is prescribed at adequate dose levels of between 60 mg and 120 mg per day.”


“There is a small handful of patients who need higher doses, but it has very little added effectiveness going above 24,” said Olsen. 36mg lol. The ceiling is 24mg and you don't even get that much.
 
TheInvisibleStoner said:
That isn't true. I know many people on 2-3mg doses, even sub 1mg on a taper. Less is more with subs due to the antagonist.

If you aren't on maintenance, why are you using an antagonist? Its that shitty there you guys use bupe to get high? LOL.

Here you go...a study.

Peterson cited a 2008 meta-analysis that concluded:


“The review of trials found that buprenorphine at medium (8 mg ‐15 mg) and high doses (16mg) can reduce heroin use effectively compared with placebo, although it is less effective than methadone, especially if methadone is prescribed at adequate dose levels of between 60 mg and 120 mg per day.”


“There is a small handful of patients who need higher doses, but it has very little added effectiveness going above 24,” said Olsen. 36mg lol. The ceiling is 24mg and you don't even get that much.
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What do I do with your outdated 2008 study?
I know my shit.
 
not last night shadester. had to make sure my assuptions of coffee and or meth can help one to keep from crashing on benzos. works
gotta take one for the team once in a while ya know cuzzo?
 
DeadManWalkin' said:
What do I do with your outdated 2008 study?
I know my shit.
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You just can't keep it together man.

So yeah, then you are using bupe to get high. Funny. Enjoy that garbage. Now I see why you suck so bad. You have no access to drugs. Excuse me while I rip a few dabs, walk down the street and get some kratom, and eh, maybe will pick up a rock and bag of dope on the way home.
 
TheInvisibleStoner said:
You just can't keep it together man.

So yeah, then you are using bupe to get high. Funny. Enjoy that garbage. Now I see why you suck so bad. You have no access to drugs. Excuse me while I rip a few dabs, walk down the street and get some kratom, and eh, maybe will pick up a rock and bag of dope on the way home.
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"No access to drugs"
"Get some Kratom"
Okay okay, I'm just done.
Enjoy your Kratom :) and Fentanyl heroin.
You know where poppy comes from? You know what poppy is?
If you knew, you'd know that it's a geographical impossibility that I'd not have drugs.
 
Because, they suck. Its only about the dependence and a shitty way to live your life running from a withdrawal. Sealed the deal many times, This one was the last.

You are only a slave to yourself while destroying your body at the same time. I feel for anyone trapped.
 
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