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Social Justice Jacob Blake shot seven times by white cop, paralyzed, may never walk again.

mal3volent said:
I think you guys are overthinking it. Let's just not excuse murder because the victims have criminal records. Seems pretty straightforward.
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This. Why is it everytime these incidents happen, we get screenshots of someone's criminal history (and do we even look to see if the person was even found guilty of those charges, to begin with?) Does a past criminal history make someone worthy of being murdered?
 
Deru said:
Does a past criminal history make someone worthy of being murdered?
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dude, there are posters here for whom even that's a pretty high bar and that just shouting at somebody is grounds for murder e.g. "Literally screaming in a woman’s face...They can be shot too as far as I’m concerned..."

is it that surprising that some people therefore think that any criminal history is justification for extrajudicial murder?

alasdair
 
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Good twitter thread where they compiled various live stream videos to follow Rittenhouse as he is being chased. The downfall of it is they show him a bit 15m before any shots were fired, and then jump to him being chased, not showing what happened in between.

 
Deru said:
This. Why is it everytime these incidents happen, we get screenshots of someone's criminal history (and do we even look to see if the person was even found guilty of those charges, to begin with?) Does a past criminal history make someone worthy of being murdered?
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No, resisting arrest and potentially going for a gun does increase ur risk of being shot though.
 
mal3volent said:
I think you guys are overthinking it. Let's just not excuse murder because the victims have criminal records. Seems pretty straightforward.
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I'd like to say 'fair enough' but I can't.

Let's not overlook the criminal records, as it plays into how cops enter a situation (provided they know the suspect, and this time they did). Let's not call it murder when the victim-suspect has a significant role in what happens. There is an element of personal accountability that cannot be ignored. It's not the only factor, but it is a factor.
 
TheLoveBandit said:
I'd like to say 'fair enough' but I can't.

Let's not overlook the criminal records, as it plays into how cops enter a situation (provided they know the suspect, and this time they did). Let's not call it murder when the victim-suspect has a significant role in what happens. There is an element of personal accountability that cannot be ignored. It's not the only factor, but it is a factor.
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For cops, I can see this being one of many components they weigh.

For an armed civilian, no. Kyle Rittenhouse would have had no access to this information prior, and everyone posting his two victim's criminal history as some justification that he murdered them or that they deserved it makes me sad for this world.
 
mal3volent said:
I think you guys are overthinking it. Let's just not excuse murder because the victims have criminal records. Seems pretty straightforward.
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That’s the bottom line. These guys didn’t deserve to die. If I saw someone just shoot someone else for throwing a bag I too would pull out my pistol.

-GC
 
Deru said:
For cops, I can see this being one of many components they weigh.

For an armed civilian, no. Kyle Rittenhouse would have had no access to this information prior, and everyone posting his two victim's criminal history as some justification that he murdered them or that they deserved it makes me sad for this world.
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Aye, my post was on the original Jacob Blake shooting with the cops. Apologies if mal's was in reference to Rittenhouse.

On Rittenhouse, we still have no idea what happened before he shot anyone. No idea why he may have done so, or what anyone else may have done. No idea.
 
no, it's not true.

there's an analysis on snopes: Was Jacob Blake Charged With Raping a Child?

Whoever created the widely shared graphic therefore took a screenshot of an authentic list of charges against Blake, including third-degree sexual assault, but juxtaposed it with an excerpt from the laws of a different state, in order to give readers the entirely false impression that Blake had been accused of committing an act of sexual penetration against a child. He had not. Claims that Blake was a “child rapist” and had “raped a child” were therefore baseless.
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i haven't had time to verify the whole thing but second-sourcing at least a couple or three of the facts in their analysis suggests it checks out.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
no, it's not true.

there's an analysis on snopes: Was Jacob Blake Charged With Raping a Child?



i haven't had time to verify the whole thing but second-sourcing at least a couple or three of the facts in their analysis suggests it checks out.

alasdair
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pfft. fact checking is for liberal cucks.
the photoshopped Twitter image says he raped a child and that's good enough for me
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
As an outsider looking in, I don't think it's really a white versus black issue. It's more a case of people being issued authority and weapons far beyond their capability.
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Authority yes, weapons I’m not so sure about.

mal3volent said:
pfft. fact checking is for liberal cucks.
the photoshopped Twitter image says he raped a child and that's good enough for me
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Dude I just drove throughMontana listening to red radio, they used the term “fact checking” in this negative way like it was stupid. Like constantly making fun of the “fact checkers” ummm yea idk bout ya’ll but I’d rather be informed than not. Fucking morons.


Also I just spent a couple hours looking into all the video from Kyles incident. He got maced beforehand and was obviously riled up. The video of him shooting the first guy he clearly is not in any danger as he runs up to the guy after shooting him. From what I’ve seen it’s definitely not a Molotov being thrown, likely a random object, definitely not deserving of a 223 to the head.

I’ll be honest I’ve watched some gruesome shit but seeing that dudes color fading from his face with a bullet wound in his head, it got me a bit.

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mal3volent said:
Wait, are you saying exercising your constitutional right to bear arms makes you not peaceful ?

Or are you saying being charged with a crime in the past makes you not peaceful?

The crazed Trump supporter (terrorist) shot someone before the most widely circulated video starts. That's why people were chasing him. To prevent him from getting away with what he done. So instead of owning up to what he had done he decides to kill again and is then thanked/allowed to escape by Kenosha police (aiding and abetting a murderer).
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He tried pulling gun on the guy after attacking him with a gang. While his other shootings may have been questionable, this one was justified.
Anyways, this is your media?
 
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