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Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

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The much touted regional R value in the UK comes from a model at MRC Cambridge, conceived and coded so badly it makes Fergusons utterly incorrect doomy Imperial College model look logical and sane. It is the same model that has not managed to predict case numbers in flu season once in the 10 or so years of its miserable existence, not even close.

All these models stop making any sense and lose all their supposed predictive value once you look under the hood and see the utter crap logic and assumptions that drives them. The MRC model uses a function that sucks up all deaths and hospitalizations and assigns a proportion to Covid, and then flies back through time to estimate the number of infections back then based on those padded numbers, guess what, as people die at a fairly constant rate the estimated R hovers around the goldilocks number of 1, not too many new infections because people would notice there are not enough cases (bodies piling up) to fit the model prediction, but not too few because then people would start saying what is the fuss about and why are vast amounts of money being wasted on vaccine development and all the other wasteful scams the government has justified on the basis of the end of the world virus TM.

The MRC and Imperial modelers should switch to global warming forecasts and models so they can continue their useless work without anyone ever questioning them for fear of being called a climate change denier.
 
Yep, but that's not the point is it.

Model tells Boris to shut it all down again. Boris goes on TV saying sorry folks, too many people on the beaches, gotta shut it all down for a while. Lockdown v.2. But in the meantime open the pubs, hairdressers, international travel cos the economy is tanking and the govt. is running out of money paying people's wages.

Doesn't matter if the model doesn't work, perception of the model working is what matters. Hell, UK could go back to 800 deaths a day and they'd still say "but the model works and is saying the R rate is only 0.8". Fegging politicians.
 
this coronahoax is the best thing ever.

I am on unemployment making more money than I ever did before.

Bought a car, leaving in a week going solo camping in cali/oregon/wash/idaho/montana/wyoming/utah (anyone wanna meet up?) for a month and a half, then doing Kambo practioner training in Colorado

Thanks globalist deep state and Trump Bucks
 
Here we have a high profile European pathologist state corona has not killed anyoneand there is no way to make a vacine for it.

www.marktaliano.net

“No one has died from the coronavirus” Important revelations shared by Dr Stoian Alexov, President of the Bulgarian Pathology Association/By Rosemary Frei and Patrick Corbett/ OffGuardian - Mark Taliano

A high-profile European pathologist is reporting that he and his colleagues across Europe have not found any evidence of any deaths from the novel coronavirus on that continent. Dr. Stoian Alexov called the World Health Organization (WHO) a “criminal medical organization” for creating worldwide...
www.marktaliano.net www.marktaliano.net

Before they were shipped out, the test kits “began showing issues with negative controls showing positive results,” the review said. However, the kits were not vetted in advance with standard quality control and quality assurance, or “QC/QA,’’ procedures, according to the review.
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Xorkoth said:
You think the virus isn't real? Why have people on this forum had it? Why are people dying? Is everyone lying who claims to have been affected by it?
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0.26% mortality rate.

The average age of people dying it from it is older than the average for life expectancy.

If you're scared of this virus and support lockdowns then you watch too much MSM.
 
Here we have a high profile European pathologist state corona has not killed anyone and there is no way to make a vaccine for it.
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Well, I think this is just it. Maybe quite literally what COVID19 is, is basically the Flu/H1N1 and what everyone is not saying is that in the Fall the "Flu" is going to mutate. Its basically the Spanish Flu all over again, except we have no immunity.

Who woulda thought the UN would have a hard interest in a NWO?

(I have never heard of any legit claims that anyone could actually grow COVID19, although early on it was mentioned in the media, and the only reference point I have is the movie Contagion.)
 
A lot of people keep forgetting that “flatten the curve” is/was about slowing the spread of COVID — not stopping the spread and not reducing the number of people who eventually get infected. It is/was about avoiding overwhelming medical resources until herd immunity is reached.

Meanwhile they've gone full-CCP in Melbourne and locked 3,000 people in their homes.

More testing and more cases with less deaths is a GOOD thing. But we can see how the media frames it to continue scaring people and to justify their stricter controls (which the politicians will not be keen to relinquish anytime soon).
 
JGrimez said:
0.26% mortality rate.
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Viruses can have long term consequences other than death. Enough people are getting SARS from this virus that this is dangerous.

If you experienced it I am sure you would understand. A sensation of both drowning and suffocating at the same time is unsettling to anyone.

I am sorry you underscore the problem. I too believe in freedom and civil rights and an open economy. I also think it is fair to balance lives lost in this equation, at least a little.

You keep citing a misleading death rate.... which we do not know yet and I am sure you're not a doctor... let me ask you this: what death rate would you NOT be ok with?

Are you OK with HIV? You know I'm sure if you take the pills to keep yourself alive you won't die from it... :\
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Viruses can have long term consequences other than death. Enough people are getting SARS from this virus that this is dangerous.

If you experienced it I am sure you would understand. A sensation of both drowning and suffocating at the same time is unsettling to anyone.

I am sorry you underscore the problem. I too believe in freedom and civil rights and an open economy. I also think it is fair to balance lives lost in this equation, at least a little.

You keep citing a misleading death rate.... which we do not know yet and I am sure you're not a doctor... let me ask you this: what death rate would you NOT be ok with?

Are you OK with HIV? You know I'm sure if you take the pills to keep yourself alive you won't die from it... :\
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Misleading? That's the official current rate according to the CDC and it's similar to what I've been saying all along.

"The US is counting any death WITH Covid19 as a death BY Covid19. Not every country is doing that. Why? It’s not an accurate or honest way to do science.

It’s a way to overcount, fearmonger & drag out the chaos.

CDC even admits some of their tests pick up the common cold."
 
JGrimez said:
Misleading? That's the official current rate according to the CDC and it's similar to what I've been saying all along.
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Wait until a lot of people get covid-19 during the winter concurrent with influenza A and B they ALSO won't get a shot for, because they've got some insane childish pathetic needle phobia.

I am sure death rates will rise.

It is misleading because it broke out by and large not during the flu season. Things look good now and the medical system is already struggling.

Even with enough beds some locations are running out of medical workers.

I cannot imagine why someone would want to get sick for hours, days, or weeks with a virus. Have fun with it, I guess. Or don't be afraid - if you live in the middle of nowhere you're probably fine. It's no skin off my nose if you die, but I figured people generally cared about their health (not everyone does, I guess).

I'm not treading on your rights, or whatever. Have at it, life is short, go out and have fun *shrugs*
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Wait until a lot of people get covid-19 during the winter concurrent with influenza A and B they ALSO won't get a shot for, because they've got some insane childish pathetic needle phobia.

I am sure death rates will rise.

It is misleading because it broke out by and large not during the flu season. Things look good now and the medical system is already struggling.

Even with enough beds some locations are running out of medical workers.

I cannot imagine why someone would want to get sick for hours, days, or weeks with a virus. Have fun with it, I guess. Or don't be afraid - if you live in the middle of nowhere you're probably fine. It's no skin off my nose if you die, but I figured people generally cared about their health (not everyone does, I guess).

I'm not treading on your rights, or whatever. Have at it, life is short, go out and have fun *shrugs*
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"Just wait and wait and wait! You'll see how bad it gets!" that's basically been the entire argument since the beginning and the mass death they promised never came (apart from what was caused directly from the lockdowns).

Evidence and rationality beats fearmongering any day of the week
 
JGrimez said:
If you're scared of this virus and support lockdowns then you watch too much MSM
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Or maybe one of my work colleagues has just come out of hospital after 6 weeks and can barely fukkin breath. Weird for a virus that doesn't exist to have such an impact on a fit-as-fukk 31 year old male who doesn't drink, smoke, drug etc. Wow, that was sure one heck of a bout of spring hayfever.
 
JGrimez said:
That's the official current rate according to the CDC and it's similar to what I've been saying all along.
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That is known about, and of course not at all manipulated to make govt. look like they have things under control. Not just in US but globally. How many deaths are happening in 3rd world countries where the health system don't even know who is dying, let alone what they are dying from.
 
JGrimez said:
"Just wait and wait and wait! You'll see how bad it gets!" that's basically been the entire argument
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That is a bad characterization of what I said.

Some countries have had zero deaths (Vietnam) due to lockdown orders. You can order that is not worth it economically - but lives were saved. I don't think that's a point one could argue if you look at US death rate (which is percentage wise low - TO YOU - but still renders a lot of people dead in a world with 8 billion people...)

empeebee said:
Or maybe one of my work colleagues has just come out of hospital after 6 weeks and can barely fukkin breath. Weird for a virus that doesn't exist to have such an impact on a fit-as-fukk 31 year old male who doesn't drink, smoke, drug etc. Wow, that was sure one heck of a bout of spring hayfever.
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THIS

I have SEEN the people this has effected like this and they are not doing well. The lung plague is real. Even if a small amount of people die, a certain portion will develop SARS which is a terrible, terrible fucking condition to have.

I'm glad I did not develop such symptoms.
 
...And now it looks like C19 has even longer lasting effects

How Covid-19 can damage the brain
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-effects-of-covid-19-infection

Major study into long-term health effects of COVID-19 launched in the UK
https://www.nihr.ac.uk/news/major-s...-effects-of-covid-19-launched-in-the-uk/25200

THE LONG-TERM HEALTH EFFECTS OF COVID-19
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/long-term-health-effects-covid-19

ah, FFS. Seems logical though, partial oxygen starvation of the brain (via blood oxygen levels) is bound to kill off some cells.
 
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