Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v3

[ihateinvega]

Trust me I'm in the same boat as you. Suicide seems so welcoming at this point. I've lost so much. My job, my apartmentb everything. Ive lost my will to live in this corrupt world.

Please don't kill yourself. Invega may seem like hell, but I have to imagine that it's nothing compared to the real thing. If you kill yourself, you'll certainly find yourself in a hell worse than Invega.

It's a good thing they can't force you to take medication. I was forced to take Invega for about 1.5 years under a civil commitment. Otherwise, I would have had to spend the rest of my life in a mental institution (at least, that's my understanding). In my opinion, it's one of the worst things that has ever happened to me. Forcing people to take medication, especially incredibly harmful medications like Invega Sustenna, is evil. Unfortunately, when doctors have deemed that you're mentally ill, you can have your rights taken away.

I don't think semen retention caused your psychosis, I wouldn't blame that.

 

[Antipsychiatry]

What else could it have been? It's the only thing i changed in my life that sent me downhill.

 

[John78]

Please don't kill yourself. Invega may seem like hell, but I have to imagine that it's nothing compared to the real thing. If you kill yourself, you'll certainly find yourself in a hell worse than Invega.

It's a good thing they can't force you to take medication. I was forced to take Invega for about 1.5 years under a civil commitment. Otherwise, I would have had to spend the rest of my life in a mental institution (at least, that's my understanding). In my opinion, it's one of the worst things that has ever happened to me. Forcing people to take medication, especially incredibly harmful medications like Invega Sustenna, is evil. Unfortunately, when doctors have deemed that you're mentally ill, you can have your rights taken away.

I don't think semen retention caused your psychosis, I wouldn't blame that.

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Please don't kill yourself. Invega may seem like hell, but I have to imagine that it's nothing compared to the real thing. If you kill yourself, you'll certainly find yourself in a hell worse than Invega.

It's a good thing they can't force you to take medication. I was forced to take Invega for about 1.5 years under a civil commitment. Otherwise, I would have had to spend the rest of my life in a mental institution (at least, that's my understanding). In my opinion, it's one of the worst things that has ever happened to me. Forcing people to take medication, especially incredibly harmful medications like Invega Sustenna, is evil. Unfortunately, when doctors have deemed that you're mentally ill, you can have your rights taken away.

I don't think semen retention caused your psychosis, I wouldn't blame that.

you've been on invega huh? how long have you been off and how long did it take you to recover if you needed to?

 

[ihateinvega]

believe what you want to too. your truth is no different than mine. can't say it destroys your dopamine for life when there's people who've recovered completely though. shouldn't take an anomaly too serious just cause it fits your severe doubt devoid of any reason.
and yeah sure, seeing some scary shit, voices tormenting you, impulsivity to feel like killing oneself or another, or acting these out, panic attacks, derealization, etc. is totally a fabrication. but i'd agree with you on it being over priced. $1000-$2000 for an average session to be diagnosed.

I think I might understand what he means when he says mental illness is a fabrication. A lot of what people call "mental illness" can really be classified as behavioral or spiritual problems. For instancing, having delusions is a behavioral problem. In fact, many people believe things that are delusional but aren't diagnosed with a mental illness or mental illnesses. This is often because their delusions may be seen as normal or common. For instance, believing that God doesn't exist is delusional, yet you don't see atheists getting thrown in mental institutions for it. Transgenderism used to be seen as delusional by psychiatrists, but not anymore. That's part of why I don't trust psychiatrists and think they're full of nonsense on a lot of things.

On the other hand, things like seeing hallucinations and hearing voices aren't necessarily mental illnesses. You may not believe this, but these things can be caused by demons. On top of that, people can become demon posessed and act in ways others would describe as "mentally ill". I don't think psychiatry is going to admit to the existence of demons though.

 

[John78]

I think I might understand what he means when he says mental illness is a fabrication. A lot of what people call "mental illness" can really just be classified as behavioral or spiritual problems. For instancing, having delusions is a behavioral problem. In fact, many people believe things that are delusional but aren't diagnosed with a mental illness or mental illnesses. This is often because their delusions may be seen as normal or common. For instance, believing that God doesn't exist is delusional, yet you don't see atheists getting thrown in mental institutions for it. Transgenderism used to be seen as delusional by psychiatrists, but not anymore. That's part of why I don't trust psychiatrists and think they're full of crap on a lot of things.

On the other hand, things like seeing hallucinations and hearing voices aren't necessarily mental illnesses. You may not believe this, but these things can be caused by demons. On top of that, people can become demon posessed and act in ways others would describe as "mentally ill". I don't think psychiatry is going to admit to the existence of demons though.





yeah i believe in demons. people expect demons to be an outer worldly thing (unless the possession consumes them, then people can become demons) but they're an inner world experience. i had a downright psycho or sociopath in my head. feeding me disturbing or awkward images, disturbing or awkward scenerios at the worst times. sabotaging and tormenting me. being consious of what it's doing to me, and being concious of what it's doing. high intelligence. a form of intelligence i could not express even if i tried. hearing gossip that sounds like they're talking about me and saying some hurtful things constantly making me feel exposed whenever i'm around it and it's everywhere. i see diagnosis' as a means of your spiritual disturbances though. mine is psychosis without the hallucinations or voices. but i do believe in psychiatry to an extent. not old practices though, but i don't doubt if there's still some residual blatancy.

 

[John78]

I think I might understand what he means when he says mental illness is a fabrication. A lot of what people call "mental illness" can really just be classified as behavioral or spiritual problems. For instancing, having delusions is a behavioral problem. In fact, many people believe things that are delusional but aren't diagnosed with a mental illness or mental illnesses. This is often because their delusions may be seen as normal or common. For instance, believing that God doesn't exist is delusional, yet you don't see atheists getting thrown in mental institutions for it. Transgenderism used to be seen as delusional by psychiatrists, but not anymore. That's part of why I don't trust psychiatrists and think they're full of nonsense on a lot of things.

On the other hand, things like seeing hallucinations and hearing voices aren't necessarily mental illnesses. You may not believe this, but these things can be caused by demons. On top of that, people can become demon posessed and act in ways others would describe as "mentally ill". I don't think psychiatry is going to admit to the existence of demons though.

the response is in there. idk why it stayed in your chat though

 

[ihateinvega]

yeah i believe in demons. people expect demons to be an outer worldly thing (unless the possession consumes them, then people can become demons) but they're an inner world experience. i had a downright psycho or sociopath in my head. feeding me disturbing or awkward images, disturbing or awkward scenerios at the worst times. sabotaging and tormenting me. being consious of what it's doing to me, and being concious of what it's doing. high intelligence. a form of intelligence i could not express even if i tried. hearing gossip that sounds like they're talking about me and saying some hurtful things constantly making me feel exposed whenever i'm around it and it's everywhere. i see diagnosis' as a means of your spiritual disturbances though. mine is psychosis without the hallucinations or voices. but i do believe in psychiatry to an extent. not old practices though, but i don't doubt if there's still some residual blatancy.

What do you mean when you say you had a psycho or sociopath in your head? Were you possessed?

To answer your earlier question, I've been off of Invega Sustenna for over 6 months. I haven't completely recovered yet, but I have recovered in a few places. I now sleep about 1.5 - 2 hours less than I used to. In addition, my blurry vision that seems to have been caused by Invega has gone away.

 

[Paula10]

I dont know if it is possible to feel worse..... it just.... blahhh... uggg... now would be one of those time were we wished we had a "get out of life" button.....
GOD help us

lol

 

[Sbar25]

I just cant accept it.....
Rape of the mind rape of the soul
Chemical torture
Chemical castration
What a joke I know where these people are going that are behind forced drugging...
It ain't fun

 

[Antipsychiatry]

I just want to be able to feel again. I'm afraid that whenever my grandmother passes away I'm not going to be able to cry. I cried a few weeks ago because i told my mom i wanted to kill myself. She got upset which made me upset.

 

[awesome31311]

Ya.... I hope man. I only got 1 shot. Some people claim it's a lethal Injection. I am wondering if you get too many shots it's not possible to recover because you have so much built into your system? I mean after 5 years tho? One would think that eventually the brain rebalances. I am holding onto hope but am worried that the brain doesn't recover from poison. If Ross had 18 shots... is it possible he could still have invega in his system after 5 years?

Man, you really do exaggerate a lot lol. If it was lethal you'd be dead.

You'd be surprised at the extent to which people's brains have recovered. It's truly remarkable

 

[awesome31311]

There's a very specific way to deal with doctors who force invega sustenna and don't give alternatives. You have to seek out a third party doctor who will diagnose you with movement disorders. Take that documentation, make a copy and show it to your psychiatrist, tell him you're getting movement disorders and need to be on a different med. If he takes you to court, show that you got movement disorders and the psychiatrist didn't do shit.
Another way to get your invega to stop is if you tell the doctor you're getting gynecomastia. Now be very careful with this because it'll make sure you extend your stay if you're in a hospital setting, but will let you get tested for higher prolactin levels. These two side effects, and documentation of them, should help you switch to another med.
Also, gynecomastia is not listed as a side effect on the invega side effects sheet, so lots of lawsuits have happened as a result of it.
Also, just because you're being forced to take a shot doesn't mean you have to sign that you were informed of side effects. In fact, if you're being forced, never sign that shit. They log when you got your shot.

 

[Damoney21]

You will all be okay trust me, if any of you have questions or want to talk about it shoot me a text at 774-707-5166. I will most likely be able to help you.

 

[John78]

What do you mean when you say you had a psycho or sociopath in your head? Were you possessed?

To answer your earlier question, I've been off of Invega Sustenna for over 6 months. I haven't completely recovered yet, but I have recovered in a few places. I now sleep about 1.5 - 2 hours less than I used to. In addition, my blurry vision that seems to have been caused by Invega has gone away.

i guess you could say i was possessed. medication wasn't helping and there was a video about signs of someone being possessed and i remember i related to alot of the stuff.

is it a good or a bad thing that you sleep 2 hours less? i get about 2 hours less of sleep too. would get 10 instead of 8. i heard about blurry vision. only thing i heard about it was that it lasted someone only like 3 months. but i'm hoping you don't take long to recover. most of the stuff i could find says it should take no longer than a year.

 

[John78]

I just want to be able to feel again. I'm afraid that whenever my grandmother passes away I'm not going to be able to cry. I cried a few weeks ago because i told my mom i wanted to kill myself. She got upset which made me upset.

it'll come man. could take awhile but alot of people report a difference around 6 months. may not be back to pre invega which could take more time. but Steph78 says it took her 6 months to feel again

 

[ihateinvega]

i guess you could say i was possessed. medication wasn't helping and there was a video about signs of someone being possessed and i remember i related to alot of the stuff.

is it a good or a bad thing that you sleep 2 hours less? i get about 2 hours less of sleep too. would get 10 instead of 8. i heard about blurry vision. only thing i heard about it was that it lasted someone only like 3 months. but i'm hoping you don't take long to recover. most of the stuff i could find says it should take no longer than a year.

Do you still think you're possessed?

It's a good thing that I sleep less. When I was getting Invega shots regularly and for about 5 months after I got my last shot of Invega, I think I was sleeping around 10.5 - 11 hours most days. Generally speaking, now I sleep less and have more time in my day in which I'm awake.

I think I will recover in less than a year. I think my sleep duration going back to normal is a sign that the drug is getting low in my system. However, I had a lot of shots so my recovery may take longer. I guess we'll see.

 

[Paula10]

I just want to be able to feel again. I'm afraid that whenever my grandmother passes away I'm not going to be able to cry. I cried a few weeks ago because i told my mom i wanted to kill myself. She got upset which made me upset.
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I’m sorry all this is happening to you. It’s not easy to cry anymore because we really don’t get relief from it. I couldn’t cry for two months and now I can cry In sad situations but I cry for no relief. It sucks badly. Hell when I recover I just want to feel joy and happiness that’s it the other emotions I don’t care about anymore because since I’m being going threw this I feel anger, mad, sadness all the negative emotions. I want only the positive emotions. We are in living hell man this isn’t right and I hate we can’t help ourselves. It’s hopeless really but you have to stay active even if you don’t want to just to make the day go by.

 

[Antipsychiatry]

I read somewhere that nicotine breaks down the enzymes of the injection. Is this true?

 

[ihateinvega]

I just want to be able to feel again. I'm afraid that whenever my grandmother passes away I'm not going to be able to cry. I cried a few weeks ago because i told my mom i wanted to kill myself. She got upset which made me upset.

You may want to be careful about who you tell that you want to kill yourself. I'm not sure about where you live, but in the United States, I believe saying that you want to kill yourself could be used to put you under a civil commitment.

 

[awesome31311]

In the US, you don't need court to commit someone in practice, but you do on paper. In practice, police can straight up lie and say you were suicidal, get you to the ER, where the doctors will also lie regardless of what you say to get you committed. Your only hope is a third party independent physician review.