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Police Brutality Thread

JGrimez said:
Also I was actually shocked to learn that the leading cause of death for young black males aged 15-45 is homicide by another black male. More than car accidents. I didn't believe it until I heard it from multiple sources.
For young white males it's car accidents.

So I was thinking.... the most successful demographic in the USA are Indian-Americans.
Their skin color is quite close to African-Americans.
So first of all that proves that the USA is not a white supremacist nation (I believe Asian-Americans are also above white people - this is per capita)
India is a poor country which also has an extensive history of slavery and colonial oppression.
So why are they so successful while many African-Americans blame the system for not being able to succeed?

If you say that they're failing because of white supremacy then you may be ideologically-possessed.
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Black people have a very specific history in the US, different from any other race. BLM, the USA. Bringing in other races, other time periods, and other parts of the world is obscuring the point. Which I'm sure is what you're trying to do.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
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The toppling of Edward Colston's statue is not an attack on history. It is history | David Olusoga

The slave trader’s figure loomed over Bristol for 125 years. Now a multiracial protest has achieved what past campaigns couldn’t, says historian and broadcaster David Olusoga
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Don't want to stray too far off topic but I just loved seeing that monstrosity topple :D

I remember in the late 80's we were in Bristol after a festival and we draped the thing in a red gold and green flag.

A friend of mine was also involved with a group trying to pressure Bristol council into adding a plaque to the statue explaining the origin of the cunt's wealth but they didn't' wanna hear it

Hopefully they're listening now
 
JGrimez said:
Do you agree with people protesting in large groups during a pandemic?
Would you also be excited if the same number of people protested against the lockdown, brandishing their legal firearms while not causing any fires or destruction?
Or would that be a threat to public safety?


During a break-in Floyd pointed a gun at the stomach of a pregnant woman. If that gun had gone off then you could say he deserved his fate.
We didn't hear much about the unarmed white Australian woman who was shot dead by a MN cop. Unlike Floyd she didn't have a criminal record so her life was more valuable yet no outcry.



Black Lives Matters activists are so full of shit.
Ignorant virtue-signalers.
It's not only that they can't think for themselves - but they also run away from facts.
They consider you a racist for telling the truth about the situation.
If they're a minority they hate white people (racist) and if they're white then they hate themselves.
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All of this is true.
Despite how there are lots of black people in the police and military in various cities and regions of the USA, people in the police, military branches, EMTs, firemen, political moderates, apolitical people, working class people, educated black and Latino people loathe the protestors, criminal types, etc. that destroy their own businesses or entire sections of cities, and the residents of places that are burned, destroyed, looted etc. dislike all of this as well.

The protests, looting, riots, arson, bombings, calls for defunding police in large cities, etc. Is all just going to backfire.

I will not be surprised when coronavirus infections and deaths from the disease skyrocket amongst people protesting, rioting, looting, etc.

 
ageingpartyfiend said:
Don't want to stray too far off topic but I just loved seeing that monstrosity topple :D

I remember in the late 80's we were in Bristol after a festival and we draped the thing in a red gold and green flag.

A friend of mine was also involved with a group trying to pressure Bristol council into adding a plaque to the statue explaining the origin of the cunt's wealth but they didn't' wanna hear it

Hopefully they're listening now
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It's so fitting that his statue is now at the bottom of the harbour - what goes around comes around.

The best bit is that the police stood and watched it happen without intervening. Now THAT is common sense.

George Floyd's death, although tragic, may yet prove to be the start of something beautiful...
 
JGrimez said:
Do you agree with people protesting in large groups during a pandemic?
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Public health experts do not condemn the protests, I think we were discussing this topic a while ago. But, now many of them have come out and publicly stated the right to protest, the reason for the protest, and the age group involved far outweighs the risks. I was pleasantly surprised to see that what I hypothesized was correct.
 
Deru said:
and the age group involved far outweighs the risks
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Yeah, and that low risk group will absolutely not being going home to a higher risk group, or getting on public transport with a higher risk group, or be using a shopping cart or basket which will be used next by someone in a higher risk group, or touching a door handle which will next be touched by someone in a higher risk group...
 
empeebee said:
Yeah, and that low risk group will absolutely not being going home to a higher risk group, or getting on public transport with a higher risk group, or be using a shopping cart or basket which will be used next by someone in a higher risk group, or touching a door handle which will next be touched by someone in a higher risk group...
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Correct, the reward outweighs the risk. This is further reinforced by the new data emerging from wide scale antibody testing. As new data emerges, better and more accurate evidence based decisions can be made.

You mitigate stronger when science backed data isn't available, and then can fine tune those mitigation strategies and recommendations as better data becomes available.

Since the virus was unprecedented, it should be expected that these recommendations will change significantly as time goes on. Such is life.
 
empeebee said:
We'll see...

https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-antibody-tests-accuracy/
https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/covid-19-antibody-testing-tougher-than-true-false
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-...ars-cov-2-antibody-tests-varies-so-much-67513

Though of course there are also a counter argument of 98.5% to 100% accuracy.

So,

we'll see.
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Yeah, as with everything in life - there are rarely absolutes. Only decisions can be made with the information available at any given moment, no one can predict the future.

How many links do you have at the ready to source your statements?

But, yeah, I know what you're saying - but I also know there will always be risk in life, no matter how much you try to eliminate it. Especially when further attempts to mitigate risk starts hurting other variables more.
 
empeebee said:
According to who? Who gets to decide whether grandma dies from covid-19 so that a bunch of people can go protest, even though grandma wasn't even there?

Or are you suggesting the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? Even in life-and-death circumstances?
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As with everything in a social construct, typically the majority. It is needed to keep the social construct functioning smoothly and further ensure our species survival.

The majority is, with the assessment of all current variables, saying the risk of grandma dieing right now is acceptable because the possibility of grandma dieing is less worse than the alternative.
 
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empeebee said:
And is not possible that the continuation of the social construct is exactly what's wrong with this little blueish ball we call home? Perhaps a new construct that has not been built on war, slavery and inequality is what is needed.
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Sure, agreed. But, how do we realistically implement said structure?

For all of it's faults, what other species has a social construct that allows it's sick and weak to survive?

Is the problem with the nuances of the social construct, on a granular level, or the overall social construct itself?

My guess is the issue lies in the former.
 
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