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Tech Elon Musk reveals new details about Neuralink

Captain.Heroin said:
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Uhh... What?

I don't really wanna watch 25 minutes of musk.. So excuse me if I'm missing something explained in the video, but according to Wikipedia...

"Neuralink Corporation is an American neurotechnology company founded by Elon Musk and others, developing implantable brain–machine interfaces (BMIs)."

Not wanted needed or desired? You kidding? There's piles of people who have neurological disabilities and impairments who can benefit from this kinda technology.
 
JessFR said:
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I could go on and on about why this is foolhardy, stupid, idiotic... I won't. It'll seem ... anti-humanistic, ungrateful, ... whatever. It's my perspective and I'm sticking to it.

I don't PERSONALLY want it or want to see the advent of it come to fruition.

I AM JUST SAYING.

I won't judge anyone for using it for therapeutic/medical reasons, not at all... I promise. I just don't think perfectly healthy people need or should want such a thing.
 
JessFR said:
Uhh... What?

I don't really wanna watch 25 minutes of musk.. So excuse me if I'm missing something explained in the video, but according to Wikipedia...

"Neuralink Corporation is an American neurotechnology company founded by Elon Musk and others, developing implantable brain–machine interfaces (BMIs)."

Not wanted needed or desired? You kidding? There's piles of people who have neurological disabilities and impairments who can benefit from this kinda technology.
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They already have one that's touchless and remote. Laughing at the implants, but not laughing at the causes it will help.
 
After dealing with this thing I would take more then a firing squad to make me get an implant. People who would want that would be absolutely crazy. Just imagine if it was even totally legit and then some x soviet block hacker hacked you. Whole new meaning an account hostage situation.
 
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Stuff considered conspiracy theory today which will be accepted as scientifically factual and self-evident as soon as it comes via an announcement from an IT company bolstered by mainstream media coverage:

They don't want people thinking for themselves. Our actions, thoughts, beliefs and feelings are already being manipulated and directed by our smartphones - the next step would be to have computers do all of our thinking for us.

I guess for some people that won't make such a huge difference in their current lives or ways of thinking.
 
Very interesting stuff indeed, obviously the timeline Elon gave is typically (probably) very optimistic, watched that a while back but it was something like 2025 for a full brain interface IIRC? Meaning having digital read/write access to every single neuron. It does appear that Neuralink have managed to do something really novel in the space of brain implantation devices though, as far as potential "bandwidth" which far, far exceeds anything else currently available. Of course, converting that bandwidth into usable input/output data is another challenge entirely, but the potential is huge.

There are dangers with this kind of technology of course, as there are with all new technologies, but IMO, apocalyptic scenarios notwithstanding, eventually it will be standard practice for everyone to have some kind of neural implant. Elon is spot on when he talks about how we already augment our biological intelligence with technology, ie, mobile phones, which mostly we all have and carry around with us almost always - but the bandwidth of our senses is pitifully tiny compared to what direct neural interfaces could provide.

Of course this will open up a pandora's box of potential problems, but the potential benefits are so vast that they are easily worth the risk IMO. And just like designer babies and mature genetic engineering technologies, arguments about the ethics of it and reservations about the changes to society it will cause will quickly go out the window as soon as any nation, or even smaller group of people start reaping these benefits, because it will be a case of either getting on board with the changing times or being left behind.
 
This kind of stuff makes me not want to live on this planet anymore.

I was hopeful that the tech dystopian nightmare wouldn't happen in my lifetime, or I would at least be 80 and almost dead when it started.

These billionaires are psychopaths and they are driving humanity down a path that we don't need to be on, unless of course you're a psychopathic megalomaniac who likes new and fascinating ways of controlling humanity.
 
uh guys you can't just crack open your tincan head and insert a chip, biomedical ethics and all where the benefit outweighs the risk, ie like people are saying like regulating epilepsy or getting people out of comas. I mean they already did this kinda of stuff with eye implants for curing blindness, you really dont want to get an infection in your brain or some sort of weird neurogenic shock from sticking something in there. Maybe they might be able to cure long term psychosis, or drug induced brain trauma, eh?
 
Foreigner said:
This kind of stuff makes me not want to live on this planet anymore.

I was hopeful that the tech dystopian nightmare wouldn't happen in my lifetime, or I would at least be 80 and almost dead when it started.

These billionaires are psychopaths and they are driving humanity down a path that we don't need to be on, unless of course you're a psychopathic megalomaniac who likes new and fascinating ways of controlling humanity.
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I spoke my mind on this elsewhere, but basically, oh hell no, I'll kill or die as necessary to avoid one of these if they are being given out forcibly. And there are enough people who are of a similar mind, at least in America, that this nightmare scenario is not going to come to pass. That kind of thing would just beg for a "second amendment solution." They have trouble getting people to wear masks.

Other countries I hold out less hope for. Good luck if you're British :(

And furthermore, anyone who gets them voluntarily is a fool. And I'll elaborate ... to go even further, I wouldn't associate with anyone who did. If we lived in a society where stuff like this began to be prevalent, forget requiring the chip to do shit in life, I would expect people who did chose to get implanted with this kind of stuff to start getting discriminated against and even attacked, too, in certain quarters. At the same time, the opposite (which would be a given) would be happening from social quarters and partisans of the devices. It'd be a real faultline. If enough chipping was going on, I'd say, street violence every day. Killings. I'm not sure if I'd necessarily condone hanging chip-heads from lamp-posts, it would depend on the capabilities and potentials of the device, but let's just say that if I had the opportunity to be a part of a community that was free of them entirely, I would certainly take it. I wouldn't be surprised if the introduction of this kind of thing touched off some serious civil conflicts along these lines in addition to all sorts of other crises.

Cut'n'pasted from my post in the other thread:

The word χάραγμα, "mark [of the beast]", in the Apocalypse (Revelation) of St. John (at 13:16) is interesting. It implies "engraved, imprinted, stamped, branded." Now I'm not suggesting the sort of archetypical Protestant Fundamentalist view of things, necessarily. The image of the Roman Emperor (Nero at the time) was on the coinage, and got there by imprinting/stamping, and the coin was needed to participate in the economy, verse 17, the mark needed to "buy or sell," which verse references the famous "Number of the Beast," which, by gematria, fits neatly with "Nero Caesar" as well.

Now, I think that it's very likely that's what it means. But occasionally it starts to sound like certain bits of modern technology, like a computer chip. Or, the mark is said to be in the head or right hand ... as are people's cellphones all the time. All this winds up in a very scary place. Shit like what you're talking about just makes you think. Even if the ideas about a future technological χάραγμα are nonsense, at a minimum they're keeping the government from chipping people for now because the people just wouldn't be up for that shit, so that's a good thing.
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Yes a microchip will save us from the evils of AI :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Scam artist Musk at it again, it's the shame that Neuralink at it's core is a very ethical endeavour, makes me have to root for him.

Pay attention to his predictions... =D =D take note, observe and laugh away
 
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