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Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v3

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goodandhumble said:
People taper off this drug differently..
I got injected twice late december and early january, and stopped taking it because I noticed I wasn’t feeling myself. I had the worst side effects like screaming and crying from how much pain I was in all january and february. By March I stopped crying and screaming but I was still pacing all the time and felt slow and suicidal. By early april I could sleep better and my semen wasn’t watery anymore but still wasn’t a lot like it was. Now today I’d say I feel almost 100% because everyone around me notices like my girlfriend and my family. But my god I thought this shit was forever and I wanted to kill myself for so long. Now I’m not having that weird back pain and stiffness that invega does to you and my semen and orgasm is a looot better but not completely there.. (maybe 2 more months and it will be) but a lot damn better and I can enjoy movies and shit again.. The worst part is while on invega I neglected my dog because I didn’t give a fuck about anything. But now I’m getting myself back into old hobbies and my god it feels so good..
Just know that it does definitely wear off and you will feel back to normal with time.. I did and by two months I might make a recovery video because there isn’t that much info on the internet about recovery.
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You recovered in 2 months? Thats miraculous man!

Took me 6 months to recover from Invega and thats with st john's wort and exercise...
 
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NoMoreZombi said:
You recovered in 2 months? Thats miraculous man!

Took me 6 months to recover from Invega and thats with st john's wort and exercise...
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ot Not really 2 months more like 3 and a half. But still not completely recovered. I also didn’t gain weight from it because I was skinny my whole life and have a super fast metabolism. Maybe that’s why I’m wearing off so fast!!
 
I need help people will by 1 year this be just a bad trip? If sometimes feels like it could last 2 maybe even 3 years before I'm healed. But healing does happen? My ejaculation feels like nothing there is so much dopamine being blocked its not even finny .
 
One day I went for a stroll outside and it led me to yelling about God. This police came and investigated about 4 or 5 times it happened. and then one time someone had said I jumped out in front of traffic. I really truly believe their is an evil system in place that targets people going for walks down the street the cops can lie and get you committed then the same doctors will shoot you full of shit to "help" you
Bull fucking shit. Their is a system in place to silence people.
 
I'm so traumatized from this experience I will probably become a shut in. The police have way to much power to commit someone for trivial things I had no idea how truly evil the state and system really is. Some prick drive by me and was like "THIS IS MY HOOD" then next thing you know I'm getting shot with poison that's destroying my life if I can just sit in my room healthy one day I will be so hapoy . This drug is a spirit killer the system knows this.
If you deny the shot do they keep yoh? How likely is it that court order you?
 
sekio said:
No problem. I know many people here want more of an explanation than "just be patient, you'll heal eventually". I hope that whets your appetite for now.
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if it's been 11 months for me with no improvement, am I damaged for life?
 
I cannot shake this feeling. The best way to describe this feeling is a hamburger with nothing on it. There is no zest to life not only that but it is actually disgusting! The drug is actually filth! Is our life robbed forever! this drug is so hardcore that it makes recovery seem not possible.
 
191 days off. No improvements yet. The average healing time for 3 shots is 10-12 months, so I have to wait a lot more.
 
Sbar25 said:
Good for you. It's good to hear someone is recovering. Do you think your maybe tricking yourself into believing you are a recovering when maybe your not?
Maybe its wishful thinking but hey if you think recovery is possible then good for you some of us are stuck in a nightmare. First two months were hell?
Yep pretty bad maybe you are tricking yourself into thinking their isnt permanent damage. What do you think
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Or maybe your tricking yourself into thinking the damage is permanent? Nothing in life is permanent.

-GC
 
I have a hard time beleiving that nothing at all has changed in 11 months. There ought to be at least some incremental imprvement.
 
No energy. No motivation. No focus. I actually feel without chemicals. I remember hearing that the dopamine receptors actually become more sensitive once the drug leaves? Is that accurate? I desperatly want to be free of this nightmare.
Approaching 3 months the poison feels strong as ever I cant wait for the day where I am healthy again! Now another trick is avoiding it ever happening ever again!
 
sekio said:
Stick to the milder compounds (caffeine before methylphenidate, methylphenidate before amphetamine, Dexedrine before Adderall) and keep doses low. Only dose when you really need a boost. You know the drill.
Aerobic exercise, a healhy diet, plenty of novelty. And time, lots of time.
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Unfortunately as it may be, as it may be, is that doctor philosophy advises adderall before dexedrine, but lisdexamp before adderall.

Yeah it's a tricky, precarious balance if you're choosing to use a stimulant and have diagnosed a psychotic mental illness. Try most other tacts before! It can give you a charge, but it's not really an antidepressant as the dynamics have played out in the population. I don't know what percentage, I'd guess 10% of people actually get a viable antidepressant effect from it (just a wild guess basically). Those that do find it as an antidepressant say so largely because they get more productive on it, and beyond just the laser-focus it may offer in the early days (and it goes without saying, this is assuming they settle on one dose).

Yeah, though, as sekio said, do interesting things. They exist in the real world! Exercise and meditation have done ample amounts of good for me. Keep up these good practices and make them habits. Life does get easier. But you do have to try hard. But you can do it. :)
 
I;m a little biased when it comes to antidepressant use, as far as I can tell, SNRIs and SSRIs are mostly just active placebo to allow for 2 weeks of counselling to start working, IMO. One pharmacologist noted that the effects profile would lead to SSRIs being more correctly called "libido supressants" or "dysphoria inducers". I like the very obvious effect that MAOIs and some tricyclic produce. If your antidepressant cannot ever induce mania, it's not really a good antidepressant, is it?

In major depression they have some established utility. I think that's where it stops though.
 
I'm having a couple beers as well. Can someone promise me this isnt a chemical lobotomy? Sometimes I really feel like it is I just need the reassurance it is not a lobotomy. Thank you
 
sekio said:
I have a hard time beleiving that nothing at all has changed in 11 months. There ought to be at least some incremental imprvement.
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yeah I guess there has been some improvement, but maybe that's only because the dissociation/anxiety disorder that ketamine gave me. Anxiety lessens depressive symptoms for me somehow.
 
Update: I'm drinking and smoking again. I'm feeling a little buzz right now that's telling me the receptors are still working. That's a positive. I walked 2 miles down to the gas station for beer n smokes. Fishing for nostolgia. You know what I realized? I'm stronger than dopamine.screw antiphycotics. The way I see it is we may never fully be the same person but guess what? It doesn't matter! do you have any idea how HARD we will have become mentally from have gone through this??? Like concrete blocks. It's just another story in our life we can talk about. who cares if emotions don't come back that just makes us stronger. We beat poison and survived! The system drugged us and we became forged through fire. We are in the fiery furnace people. We are being turned into tempered steel through trial. God is hardening through suffering. Everyday will be a struggle but nothing is impossible for us if we are willing to endure to the end. Two years ago I would drink like a fish and smoke like a chimney. I quit when I was on the road searching for meaning . I had realized that we need to be pure and be like God and be free of addidtion. What I have learned is that society doesn't want you to be like God. Sometimes the best thing to do is blend in and drink and smoke but In your heart you know the truth. Guess what? On my many adventures I had learned that it is not about "stuff". maybe it is not even about dopamine d2! If we can find pleasure and content in life on invega sustenna we are light years ahead of Joe. Joe takes everything for granted . Joe is a douche. he has dopamine and doesn't even known what it is. We dont. We have been through hell and we are being made into concrete warriors of strength. Once we recover from invega everything else Is pussywillows . We are the strongest people to have to go through this everyone else is toddlers in pajamas. We are iron warriors.
 
Man I shit you not. There are few things better than listening to HiGh on Fire radio on Pandora and drinking berr ! We will recover! I might drink every single night and get fucked up until this poison is out of my system! FUCck the courts! Fuck the hospital! We are iron warriors! chemicals are shit! They might disable us but they will never take our FREEDOM!!!!!! TRSUST me you all, we will recover and be like Noah and the ark surfing the flood! We are iron warriors! the systems wants to fuck us we will surpass!!!
 
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