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Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

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I stand corrected. Although that chart does highlight how much easier it is to do it if you have a small population.

Icelands by far the highest, but their population is smaller than most cities.

Infact adding together every state ahead of Australia seems to still add up to a smaller population than australia.

Which isn't really a point that matters to anything, I just thing it highlights that it's a big advantage when you have a small population.

The US on the other hand has a population many times higher than the first 5 states on that graph put together.

Still, even taking that into consideration, America's testing was really poor early on.

And acting early seems critical.
 
@JessFR, any idea why Australia is doing so much better than most of Europe, the U.S., and Canada?
Turns out the Guardian has an article today on just this topic:

Have Australia and New Zealand stopped Covid-19 in its tracks?
Eleanor Ainge Roy and Ben Doherty
The Guardian
April 9th, 2020
Its more than 35,000km (21,750 miles) of coastline was always going to be Australia’s strongest advantage in keeping coronavirus at bay, but even so, the speed with which it was used was breathtaking.

Without warning on Thursday 19 March, the Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, announced: “Australia is closing its borders to all-non citizens”. The ban was effective from 9pm the next day.

That left visitors and visa holders stranded mid-journey, or turned around at the border and packed back on to planes, and left hundreds of thousands of Australians scrambling to get home, many of whom remain stuck in countries similarly locked down or without flights home.

Australia and neighbouring New Zealand, almost unique among anglophone countries, have so far been successful in largely suppressing the spread of Covid-19 within their countries, and in particular, keeping deaths low.

Australia, with a population of 25 million, has had just over 6,000 infections, and 50 deaths. New Zealand, a country of 5 million people, which closed its borders the day before Australia, has had 1,200 infections and so far only one death from Covid-19.
Read the full story here.
 
Australians for instance I would say travel to an excessive degree, and it often seems to be less about experiencing the world, and more treating the world as their personal playground.

My friends in Ohio, the wife had never been outside of her county (no r) and was in her mid 30's. I've met a lot of people in PA that haven't been outside the state. More grown adults. By preference, or by situation (lack of money for travel, lack of interest based on not hearing how great it is from others, etc), I can't say. I have always admired the Aussie spirit in this respect, but not paid attention to how much they may trash their environment as a playground. Personally, I love to travel, so there's my mindset.


I don't think I've ever met a friendly American tourist. Whenever I think I have, they turn out to actually be Canadian.

It's not uncommon for socially aware Americans to try and pass themselves off as Candadians, given the stigma Americans have abroad.

Yanks: "HEEEEY HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY? I'M AMAZING!"

In college, we had a German student with us. He picked up that "How ya doin?" greeting by being with us. When I met him, I responded "I'm doing ok. How are you doing?" and he nearly fell on the floor. He spent a conversation explaining how Americans throw it out and nobody listens, nobody cares, but I actually sounded like I cared.
 
It's not uncommon for socially aware Americans to try and pass themselves off as Candadians, given the stigma Americans have abroad.

Interestingly I've noticed that a lot of the time (maybe 30-40%?) people ask me if I'm Canadian rather than American.

One reason I've considered is that some people think Canadians are more likely to be offended for being mistaken for Americans than the reverse.

I dunno, just seems kinda weird. Unless I actually do sound more Canadian than I realize. It's not exactly easy to know your own accent. :p
 
Here a letter of a French doctor (translated with _DeepL.com/Translator) Absolutely Horrific, and confirms what we have seen and experienced ourselves.

"As a doctor requisitioned to help get through this epidemic crisis, I would like to share with you what is happening in the hospitals, all responding to the orders of the republic.

First of all, you should know that all public and private hospitals in the territory are empty. In this great war waged against the coronavirus, all other pathologies are relegated to second or even third place. What this means is that all scheduled hospitalizations and scheduled surgeries of people who really need care are cancelled. People who are told to stay home to avoid catching a cold end up dying at home from heart failure, for example, for which they will not have had the necessary care within a given period of time. For it should be known that this generalized panic having pushed to the confinement, with an aim of stopping the propagation of a virus "which is already there" makes that the totality of the liberal doctors, as well generalists as specialists, close their cabinet. Patients therefore no longer see a doctor, and no one can therefore assess a possible deterioration in their chronic pathology and thus refer them to a hospital service. It has therefore been more than 2 weeks in occupied France that almost all doctors and surgeons have been technically unemployed. At present, none of us understand what is happening. We all ask ourselves: "Where have these patients who fill our services all year round gone? »

Patients experiencing unusual symptoms are therefore instructed to call 15 first so that they can be told what to do: "stay home" or "go to the emergency room". Here's an example to show you the absurdity of this instruction: a patient with a slight chest pain in the right base with a slight cough and a slight fever, the 15 Centre will tell him that these are common signs of Covid-19 infection and that he should stay home, it will pass in a few days. Bad luck, it's actually a pulmonary embolism and the patient could go into hypovolemic shock at any time, in addition to necrosis of the lungs. We don't make diagnoses over the phone. Except at this time, obviously.

Now let's talk about the only hospital departments that continue to operate at full capacity: the ER and the Covid units.

The E.R. is used to screen patients with the most suspected Covid infection, or patients who may have a real life-threatening emergency that needs to be managed very quickly, as usual.

It should be noted that a Covid+ patient who is considered a "frail individual" (i.e. under 70 years of age with a significant history, or over 70 years of age) will be admitted to these Covid units.

I was requisitioned a while ago to work in one of these Units. What do they look like? The completely empty hospital wards I told you about are requisitioned to store Covid+ patients. Before being transferred from the Emergency Department to these Units, these patients are labelled: either they are under 70 years old and are labelled as "resuscitatable" (if they deteriorate, we will do everything we can to try to save them), or they are over 70 years old and are labelled LATA which means Limitation and Cessation of Active Therapeutics.

I will try to explain briefly what we do for a resuscitatable patient, and what we do for a LATA patient in this kind of situation. I remind you that the clinical picture of a severe "coronavirus" infection corresponds to pneumonia, an infection of the lungs that attacks the pulmonary alveoli. The terminal phase of this type of infection generally corresponds to what is known as septic shock with a pulmonary starting point: the germ initially present in the lungs and respiratory tract passes into the bloodstream and attacks all the vital organs: heart, brain, liver, kidneys. All of this leads to a coma that makes breathing more difficult, low blood pressure because the heart can no longer function properly, increased toxicity in the body (either because of drugs or because of waste produced by our body all the time) because the liver and kidneys no longer function.

A resuscitated patient in our department: He arrives with pure oxygen to the glasses or mask to help him breathe, we adapt the oxygen flow according to his needs (estimated by the Oxygen Saturation) and in the majority of cases: we do not touch his treatment at all! We add tablet antibiotics in some cases, they are not prescribed at all in a systematic way. The medicines he takes at home, we give them to him, and we do nothing else.

These services, which are presented to us as war zones, totally overwhelmed, are in fact surveillance units where we do almost nothing. I have never had such quiet days as I have had since this crisis began. If one of these patients starts to decompensate, to go into a state of Acute Respiratory Distress with hypotension, pseudocoma, etc. the protocol tells us to intubate, to infuse this patient with 2 to 3L of saline over 3 hours to raise the blood pressure and thus irrigate the vital organs, to give intravenous antibiotics, to give intravenous norepinephrine if the saline filling has not worked as expected. All this is to stabilize vital functions to give the antibiotics time to do their job.

I've been in emergency and resuscitation departments many times, so I know that age is not always the deciding factor when we decide whether or not to resuscitate a patient. I have already seen attempts to resuscitate patients who are 80 years old, because there is a maxim that we like to repeat to give us a clear conscience: We have an obligation of means, but no results. This means that any patient who comes into our hands, we owe it to ourselves to do everything we can to save him or her, even if it turns out to be a bad start from the beginning.

Now let's talk about the LATA patients in the Covid Unit: these are often over 70 years old. Like the young people, they come to our units with Oxygen on their nose, most often with a flow rate of 2 to 3 L/min. If these old patients ever start to require a higher flow of oxygen, 6 to 7 L/min (which can be explained by the fact that these old patients have been carrying their pneumonia for about 7 days most of the time, as they are ordered to stay at home), it is considered that they will not survive their infection. 6 or 7 L/min of oxygen is the limit between life and death in these Units. Once this stage is reached, the LATA label comes into play. Considering that these old people are going to die anyway (since they will not be resuscitated, cuckoo the obligation of means), we inject them with a cocktail of Morphine and Hypnovel intravenously. We also use these two molecules in Palliative Care: they induce an artificial coma, a well-known effect, and they also have a respiratory depressive effect. In fact, they have a muscular relaxing effect, particularly on the respiratory muscles (diaphragm, intercostal muscles, pharyngeal muscles, etc.) and therefore lead to drug-induced asphyxia. Doctors, so attached to ethics, call this a "sweet death". In these units, we therefore artificially kill patients who are condemned as soon as they leave the emergency room. At no time do we seek to do medicine with them.

These deaths are then counted as victims of coronavirus, whereas they are in fact the victims of French doctors.

The families of these victims cannot even realize anything. With this confinement, the young patients are not allowed any visits. Patients at the end of life (those who have benefited from the LATA cocktail), are entitled to only one visit per day. The relatives must therefore agree on who will visit the future dead person. And this visitor will not be allowed to visit again during the current week. They therefore have no way to appreciate the clinical evolution of their relative, because we rarely hold more than a week under Morphine and Hypnovel.

So our policies are orchestrating a lot of hospital deaths, and using these deaths to create a general psychosis for a purpose that I cannot yet visualize."
 
More on the super lovely and caring Bill Gates..

From Robert F Kennedy Jr's Instagram post today:

"Vaccines, for Bill Gates, are a strategic philanthropy that feed his many vaccine-related businesses (including Microsoft’s ambition to control a global vac ID enterprise) and give him dictatorial control over global health policy—the spear tip of corporate neo-imperialism.

Gates’ obsession with vaccines seems fueled by a messianic conviction that he is ordained to save the world with technology and a god-like willingness to experiment with the lives of lesser humans.

Promising to eradicate Polio with $1.2 billion, Gates took control of India ‘s National Advisory Board (NAB) and mandated 50 polio vaccines (up from 5) to every child before age 5. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian Government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and evicted Gates and his cronies from the NAB. Polio paralysis rates dropped precipitously. In 2017, the World Health Organization reluctantly admitted that the global polio explosion is predominantly vaccine strain, meaning it is coming from Gates’ Vaccine Program. The most frightening epidemics in Congo, the Philippines, and Afghanistan are all linked to Gates’ vaccines. By 2018, ¾ of global polio cases were from Gates’ vaccines.

In 2014, the Gates Foundation funded tests of experimental HPV vaccines, developed by GSK and Merck, on 23,000 young girls in remote Indian provinces. Approximately 1,200 suffered severe side effects, including autoimmune and fertility disorders. Seven died. Indian government investigations charged that Gates funded researchers committed pervasive ethical violations: pressuring vulnerable village girls into the trial, bullying parents, forging consent forms, and refusing medical care to the injured girls. The case is now in the country’s Supreme Court.

In 2010, the Gates Foundation funded a trial of a GSK’s experimental malaria vaccine, killing 151 African infants and causing serious adverse effects including paralysis, seizure, and febrile convulsions to 1,048 of the 5,049 children.

During Gates 2002 MenAfriVac Campaign in Sub-Saharan Africa, Gates operatives forcibly vaccinated thousands of African children against meningitis. Between 50-500 children developed paralysis. South African newspapers complained, "We are guinea pigs for drug makers".

Nelson Mandela's formar Senior Economist, Professor Patrick Bond, describes Gates' philantropic practises as "ruthless" and immoral".

In 2010, Gates committed $ 10 billion to the WHO promising to reduce population, in part, through new vaccines. A month later Gates told a Ted Talk that new vaccines "could reduce population". In 2014, Kenya's Catholic Doctors Association accused the WHO of chemically sterilizing millions of unwilling Kenyan women with a phony "tetanus" vaccine campaign.

Independent labs found the sterility formula in every vaccine tested.

After denying the charges, WHO finally admitted it had been developing the sterility vaccines for over a decade.

Similar accusations came from Tanzania, Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines.
A 2017 study (Morgensen et.Al.2017) showed that WHO's popular DTP is killing more African than the disease it pretends to prevent. Vaccinated girls suffered 10x the death rate of unvaccinated children.
Gates and the WHO refused to recall the lethal vaccine which WHO forces upon millions of African children annually.
Global public health advocates around the world accuse Gates of - hijacking WHO's agenda away from the projects that are proven to curb infectious diseases; clean water, hygiene, nutrition and economic development.

They say he has diverted agency resources to serve his personal fetish - that good health only comes in a syringe.
In addition to using his philanthropy to control WHO, UNICEF, GAVI and PATH, Gates funds private pharmaceutical companies that manufacture vaccines, and a massive network of pharmaceutical -industry front groups that broadcast deceptive propaganda, develop fraudulent studies, conduct surveillance and psychological operations against vaccine hesitancy and use Gates' power and money to silence dissent and coerce compliance.
In this recent nonstop Pharmedia appearances, Gates appears gleeful that the Covid-19 crisis will give him the opportunity to force his third-world vaccine programs on American children."
 
I may as well take this opportunity to predict that Gates's vaccine project won't conclude any time soon and the real treatments of interest are remdesivir, lopinavir, favipiravir, and umifenovir.

@JessFR, any idea why Australia is doing so much better than most of Europe, the U.S., and Canada?
It's summer (now early fall) in Australia. Coronaviruses are able to survive outside the body longer at lower temperatures. Many scientists have expressed hope that COVID will slow down in the summer. In fact it also seems to be moving relatively slowly across most of Southeast Asia, mostly places not known for their institutional efficiency (except Singapore), but very warm.

A month later Gates told a Ted Talk that new vaccines "could reduce population"
Ok this is especially funny. Are you saying that Bill Gates advocated eugenics in public and wasn't immediately hanged drawn and quartered?
 
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It is looking really dark at the moment and it is not caused by the coronavirus. Wake the fuck up people.

I’m starting to get bad vibes...like the anti-Christ and “mark of the beast” is coming. I’m trying not to jump to conclusions, but man, it’s getting darker and darker. All of this has already been written.

They have underground bunkers ready and stocked up...for themselves. They’ve been planning all along.

Oh and I kid you not, an entire fleet of UFOS (demons) was posted on Facebook by someone in my state last night who captured them on film. I recorded one years ago, but this was an entire cluster of them! Not a good sign at all...
 
I think, other than those Americans trying to go unnoticed as Canadians...both regular Americans and Canadians would be offended at being mistaken for the other ;)

ymmv

Well yes I agree. But that doesn't mean that that's the most likely assumption of people of other nationalities.

I dunno, it's just a theory. It could just be that most people who aren't American or Canadian have difficulty telling the two groups of accents apart. Or at least the more similar varieties of the two groups.

So it could just be that a lot of people just pick randomly when asking if I'm Canadian or American.

I know that it took me years to be able to tell apart New Zealand accents from Australian ones.

No offense to anyone here possessing such accents. :p
 
It's summer (now early fall) in Australia. Coronaviruses are able to survive outside the body longer at lower temperatures. Many scientists have expressed hope that COVID will slow down in the summer. In fact it also seems to be moving relatively slowly across most of Southeast Asia, mostly places not known for their institutional efficiency (except Singapore), but very warm.

I doubt very much that's making much of a difference. At least in so far as the kinda national differences we're discussing.

If it did, Northern Hemisphere countries should be doing similarly well reducing the death count. And they aren't.

Additionally, Australia's numbers were very much like other western countries early on, in spite of it being warmer, until aggressive action was taken to suppress the spread and identify sources of the disease.
 
Well yes I agree. But that doesn't mean that that's the most likely assumption of people of other nationalities.

I dunno, it's just a theory. It could just be that most people who aren't American or Canadian have difficulty telling the two groups of accents apart. Or at least the more similar varieties of the two groups.

So it could just be that a lot of people just pick randomly when asking if I'm Canadian or American.

I know that it took me years to be able to tell apart New Zealand accents from Australian ones.

No offense to anyone here possessing such accents. :p

Are you turning this into what? What are you doing? I mean, no offense. When we speak about the Gov, we speak that you go to a place with your ID, there's your face and your personal informations. Since birth you've been registered in the global database network as any other citizen. So again, where do you wanna go with this and why?
 
Are you turning this into what? What are you doing? I mean, no offense. When we speak about the Gov, we speak that you go to a place with your ID, there's your face and your personal informations. Since birth you've been registered in the global database network as any other citizen. So again, where do you wanna go with this and why?

Huh?
 
TOLD YA!

"During Tuesday’s White House press briefing, coronavirus task force leader Dr. Deborah Birx explained that COVID-19 deaths in the United States have “very liberal” recording guidance, noting that anyone who tests positive for the virus and dies would be included in their numbers of coronavirus deaths."

So if a 90 year old in the last days of metastatic brain cancer tests positive for covid-19, they'll count that as "death by covid-19", and use it to continue to SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF YOU WITH NUMBERS TO JUSTIFY LOCKING YOU IN YOUR HOUSE FOR MONTHS.

If you're not pissed at this point, you may as well be dead.

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“According to data obtained from the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics Mortality Surveillance System website, total U.S. deaths for the first three weeks of March are DOWN 10% from the average of the prior four years for the same three week period.” (looks like people staying away from doctors is saving lives)

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Like I've been telling you, repeatedly, they are SKEWING the numbers by classifying ANY respiratory illness as "covid-19" WITHOUT TESTING.
Minnesota senator and doctor explains PRECISELY this.

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Irish Prime Minister:
“Our hospitals are actually very quiet.”
“We are quite worried about what we call secondary deaths,” he added – saying there were concerns of an increased risk of people dying from heart attacks and other illnesses as the restrictions continued.
NO SHIT SHERLOCK!
Holohan urges people to seek help if they need it after seeing empty waiting rooms during his hospital admission

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The NY Times Science and Health Reporter given air time on mainstream media to urge totalitarian measures against the population.

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A very interesting man, this Bill Gates.

From 2014:
Police arrested a Seattle man at Bill Gates and Melinda Gates’ mansion for allegedly collecting more than 6,000 child rape photos.
Rick Allen Jones, reportedly employed as an engineer at the Gates’ home, is also accused of trading pornography images via Gmail.

Could the reason be for consideration of numbers of deaths now vs numbers of deaths in “normal” times? They - the CDC may actively be studying the effect of the illness, and this is just one way?

It is often very hard to find an exact cause of death. This is a novel, “new” factor in the mix. Perhaps the problem lies more with, at this point, that the media has a hold of the numbers, and lay-people... when at this point they’re (the people charged with finding how to treat/approach this virus/illness) just trying to find a reference?

So they’ll compare the yearly/monthly/daily average, with now + this added/new “factor”. ?
 
It is looking really dark at the moment and it is not caused by the coronavirus. Wake the fuck up people.
Good luck, it's like yelling at brick walls at this point. Giving up trust in the authorities is just too terrifying.

Oh and I kid you not, an entire fleet of UFOS (demons) was posted on Facebook by someone in my state last night who captured them on film. I recorded one years ago, but this was an entire cluster of them! Not a good sign at all...
see the sky rippling over Syria? Things seems to be heating up and it could go very bad for people who are not aware.

It's these very occasional moments of sanity that me help get through the madness.
The 'madness' is you awakening and these moments are sending you back into slumber. Join us.

 
Thank you very much for posting this.

It's these very occasional moments of sanity that me help get through the madness.

<3 <3 <3 <3

You're welcome. I cannot say whether there is a conspiracy or not of course. The only way for me to determine what I believe is with the information being given to me through people with more knowledge and expertise on the situation. As someone is purely objective on this matter (which I am 100%, I'm agnostic in a sense to this whole thing), I cannot and should not say I know what is happening behind the scenes. I havent been invited behind the scenes or even into the theater for a back row seat. I am someone that has to watch it from a television screen. The people who are behind the scenes dont care what I think, and it only helps ratings when there are differences of opinions on what this play is about.
It adds to the confusion and nothing more. One day they will release the Uncut version of this, and maybe it will be wildly different than I thought. But it may just be a bunch of boring details and commentary that didnt really need to be included in the main feature.

From what I have been able to see, the actions havent lined up with anything other than what I am seeing. I have no reason to believe there is a conspiracy. But let's wait 6 months for the Directors Cut and maybe that will change.

-Mr. Deeds
 
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