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The afterlife...

You seem very sure.

Right... “very sure”.

Fact is: None of us really know.

Personally, I’ve seen too much, to believe that consciousness energy simply cedes into a non subjective participation.

Like: this “thing” is bigger than anybody can comprehend.

July 5th marks a day when somebody that I truly Loved got married to another man.

I had no way of “knowing” this... at the specific time.

However, I had an overwhelming anxiety attack with the impulse of “She’s GONE” echoing through me like an earthquake.

I had to be sedated.

I later saw a wedding invitation corresponding to the exact date and time.

The wedding was over a thousand miles away.

HOW did that event travel to me?

And, to extrapolate a bit... what OTHER data transmits, interactively, and WHY?!

It ain’t simple.

“Explaining away” that what you can’t see, can’t possibly exist, would appear to be a hallmark of ignorance, in, and of itself.

Thingz is BHIIIIIGGGG, you mutants!

Always good to consider “Hey, what IF?!”

Possibilities with FAITH actually exist.

I can’t explain it, nor somehow, am I meant to.

But something about the conductive aspect of FAITH creates an awareness of the REAL beyond the veil.

-For your consideration.

Bryan
 
I once had a near-death experience (i was actually dead)-

Where it felt like my soul departed from the body. I was, after an immensely painful experience, peaceful, and "floating upwards" out of my body. I could smell nature, and everything was so calm-

before i "fell down" into my body and woke up.

I think this might have something to do with the planets in the solar system, when the body stops moving for all eternity, the rest of you continue moving-
or actually, stops moving, and the rest of the solar system passes by you- therefore it feels like you are "going to heaven"

-Erl :)
 
^ That's an interesting idea. :)

I see that as kind of a religious view.

The idea that the universe itself is awareness is more of an ideological/spiritual view than a religious one. Though a lot of people use "spiritual" and "religious" interchangeably, religious implies an external framework telling you what to believe, ie, dogma, whereas spiritual can include religion but can also include ideas that are self-generated. I believe that the universe is pure awareness and that we are all the universe experiencing itself subjectively. I believe it to be true because of my experiences, but I can't state for certain that it's true because no one can know the answers to these things for sure.
 
I think time travel (into the past) would cause reality to unmake itself because of people changing things and having instant ripple effects into the future. Actually I think the fact that this hasn't happened means it's impossible to do, because if it was possible, it have been done in the future which would mean it would have happened in the past already. And if time travel to the future only is possible then it won't solve any questions for society because they wouldn't be able to get back to report on anything.

Either that, or it is possible and reality is changing all the time but we can't tell because it seamlessly changes our entire memory of the past.


I brought this here, let's get away from all the stupidity that's goin on.

As easy as it may seem is not an easy topic. It involves a bit of astronomy, our Earth orbits the Sun right? So you could just be who knows, billions of miles away even if you were at the right spot. So our where have to have the right when.

What could time travel be? A machine with wires that you just press a button and bam? I don't think something so simple would be so advanced, the amount of photons, the amounts of calculations back and forth, the years/days all reversed, the amount of all other calculations as with what may interfere with would have to be beyond precise, so I doubt we at the moment and I think maybe a bit more in the future --- ( 2060-70 ) in case we aren't extinct by that time, we would have this machine. It would have to run on a unique kind of energy, and things that's really aren't worth thinkin but just as an e.g I think it would require 2, one in the past and one in the future. It would be more logical this way, more plausible, but since time doesn't exist, how do we define it? By actions? by what? We got actions and those actions define moments and those we call ''time/memories'', but speakin in clock terms time it's just a man-made illusion. And if travelling was possible how would you define it? I mean you couldn't tell the difference between past and future, just by your interpretation. But even then it would be non-sense... is not a easy topic, belive me. Is not, it's actually a topic that you have to give some logical explanations rather than some fantasy bullshits.

I think the closer look into a sorta ''time machine'' we would have, it's when we experience and experiment a light speed object around a sphere, even though time isn't real. It could be the best possible way to see, others.. are just flight of fantasy because there's nothin after the sound or after the shockwave motions. We can look at the Cube, you know, the movie with those fuckerz trapped in that bitch ye, so in second one we got the ''Hypercube'', where people experience a multiverse tail-view, if you cut the cube in half, you would make sense somehow but you can't. So yeah, our scientists figuring this out will have some hard time as we didn't even invent a space-ship yet. Haha, and if we could solve ''time fly-bys'' we could also figure out what afterlife exactly is. I don't think it's just a place where you just go when you die or some shit, it has to be something else. As others think there's a city in the middle of Earth there's.. you know, dunno. Just sayin
 
The people going back to change the past could have people waiting for them when they arrive to stop them, maybe even some law enforcement formation -- if we ever find a photograph or physical evidence of an I-phone or laptop computer with a broken screen with blood and vomit all over it from 1914, then we will know it is possible? People like central bankers and bank-deposit insurance agencies would have some of the strongest motives, followed by the drug prohibition and rehabilitation Satanic version of a caliphate . . .
 
I know this is surely a bit off topic but I just want to respond.


I would venture to say that there is close to zero chance that we would have a time machine by then. Try 20060... if ever.

We already know in theory how to make a time machine although it's based on technologies that do not yet exist. If we could ever break the lightspeed barrier then we would also have the option to travel back in time (barring some kind of as-yet-undiscovered physical law that prevents closed timelike curves). Alternatively if the lightspeed barrier remains an unbreakable law of nature which at the moment it looks like it will, if we are ever able to manufacture stable wormholes we would also be able to construct an arrangement of wormholes which would send us into the past by moving the wormhole mouths at subluminal but relativistic speeds (again, barring some kind of chronology protection conjecture, I believe I read somewhere that this might be a problem with wormholes too, something to do with some form of Hawking radiation flux destabilising the "throat", since wormholes can be considered to be some kind of non-destructive black holes...)

Assuming we did overcome these problems obviously an acausal universe is a huge can of worms. I would think that were time travel of this sort possible the most likely outcome would be that time travelling is an event which splits the universe into an entirely new timeline. This might seem an extravagant solution but we already have a precedent for this happening in the Everettian interpretation of quantum mechanics, that in every moment the entirely of the observable universe and probably beyond buds off into a plethora of new and entirely causally isolated iterations of the original, along the entire spectrum of possibility of the collapsing wavefunction... "Where" they are popping into existence "into", who knows.

But I do not think it would ever make sense for us to change the past, them travel back into the original timeline we came from and observe differences caused, probably the original timeline would keep existing as it always had. Of course, I don't really know either, and I would love be wrong about the likelihood of some true form of physical time travel being discovered in the next 50-60 years because it would surely be preceded by a couple more absolutely fantastical technologies which would open up the cosmos to us and solve a lot of problems of the world.
 
Lightspeed doesn't even worth the time, it will take a huge amount of time to travel that way, maybe we could use it to power our cities but as far as travelling goes? Nah, useless. Warmholes on the other hand, what are? shortcuts through space, even if we would go by the law ''What you see in space it's an ancient relic, and if you were there now that thing wouldn't exist'' in this case warmholes are useless. I belive Neptune may hold some answers for our cosmos, that planet hasn't been much explored and I say this not because of her atmosphere or her environment, I say this because Neptune influence all other things beyond Kuiper Belt, voyager didn't report anything back and as much as I trust the space agencies and I have my reasons ( they are poor, at least that's some of their excuse and I play the stupid for now and I buy it ) so voyager didn't report anything, I don't wanna know if there are planets beyond or something, no. I want to know where did Neptune came from? It's the strangest one, it wasn't formed here as Saturn, Jupiter and others were.
 
Neptune ! wow ! I didn't even know there was a Neptune. lol.
( I must of just forgot)

I do want to know where did Neptune came from too ☺.

plus i get tired of hearing bout Uranus.
 
Lightspeed doesn't even worth the time, it will take a huge amount of time to travel that way, maybe we could use it to power our cities but as far as travelling goes? Nah, useless. Warmholes on the other hand, what are? shortcuts through space, even if we would go by the law ''What you see in space it's an ancient relic, and if you were there now that thing wouldn't exist'' in this case warmholes are useless. I belive Neptune may hold some answers for our cosmos, that planet hasn't been much explored and I say this not because of her atmosphere or her environment, I say this because Neptune influence all other things beyond Kuiper Belt, voyager didn't report anything back and as much as I trust the space agencies and I have my reasons ( they are poor, at least that's some of their excuse and I play the stupid for now and I buy it ) so voyager didn't report anything, I don't wanna know if there are planets beyond or something, no. I want to know where did Neptune came from? It's the strangest one, it wasn't formed here as Saturn, Jupiter and others were.
LOL. Lightspeed travel and stable wormholes, useless. A lifeless ice giant in the outer solar system, well, there's something to think about. :LOL: I can barely even understand you most of the time Shady, maybe there's a language barrier or something.

Neptune and the other outer giants presumably would be useful for a future system-spanning human civilisation due to the vast quantities of fusion fuel in their atmospheres, as well as their location on the outskirts with marginally easier access to the interstellar void (it's a fairly small advantage... but every little helps). We have to get there first though, and a sustainable fusion economy would help. All indications are that Neptune formed from the same protoplanetary disc as all the other planets that orbit our sun, I've never heard anything to the contrary, if you have any reason to think otherwise, please do share a source but keep in mind that it will probably be bunk.



Edit - someone else posted this video a while back but I've watched it several times since, is a fascinating look at a potential future for the planet Neptune. I first watched it on ketamine and felt like I was watching a news report from the distant future, so for best results I suggest the same or similar - watch on a dissociative and imagine you're watching the news a couple centuries from now. ;)
 
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Now fusion and fission ARE a very interesting concept and have possibilities, I would hope.
 
What is the current prevailing theory about how a time machine would work? Does it involve some form of wormhole manipulation? Are there alternatives anywhere even close?

When I see the extent to which unintended consequences impact everyday life now and have shaped history, it makes the whole thing even more interesting, of course.
 
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Nothing dies because nothing was born.

All appearances arise as a hologram that isn't real, but it is generated by the only thing that's real. What's real is not experiencing anything.

Birth is consciousness identifying with a body-mind. Death is consciousness disidentifying with a body-mind. The one true reality never changes.
So death is just a transition?
 
So what happens or where do we go? Do we join loved ones, and ancestors? Or how did you learn this?

I'm trying to say that the you who is talking to me right now, the ego structure, doesn't exist. So "you" don't go anywhere. The real you, which is unchanging, pure consciousness, remains the same. It was the same when "you" were born and the same when "you" die.

It's like asking, what happens to water when it becomes ice or vapor? It's still fundamentally and inseparably water, but it can have the appearance of ice or vapor. We can even strongly identify with it as either form. But at the end of the day its essence is unchanged.

My example relates to matter but try to understand this from a consciousness perspective. Nothing is born and nothing dies. It's all an appearance.

A better example might be the waves of the ocean. There are small waves, big waves, waves that last for minutes and others that last for milleseconds. No matter what kind of wave arises, it always dissolves back into the fundamental ground of reality: the ocean. Our individuated natures are like the waves. When we identify with ourselves strongly as waves through ego, then it looks like, "Hey! Look at me! I'm a me! I'm a big wave! So what happens to me when I die?"

Well, nothing happens. You dissolve back into the ground reality that you were always part of.

When you are alive, you are an individuated form of the Brahman. You are Brahman-As-You, totally personified. You are Brahman experiencing Itself by shining the light of consciousness through a human-mind body, just as the ocean funnels water into a momentary, individuated wave. The individuation is a real experience. So you are real, I am real, every unique differentiation in what we call reality is "real", but it all arises from the same source. It's not enough to say "we are all One", because although it's true, it also denies the human level experience. Brahman came through as you, it "wants" (for lack of a better word) to be you. It wants to play as your unique chord. So people who abdicate themselves to Oneness are missing a big piece of their important existence.

There is no experience level with Brahman. Brahman is already perfect and unchanging. A mind-body needs to exist for experience to even happen. Brahman projects through a human mind-body and then that mind-body has the capacity to experience Brahman, but only through itself. It's why I can't experience lief as a dog, or a tree, or an insect. We are "All One" which people are fond of saying, but it's why Oneness-As-Me can't experience Oneness-As-You, even though we both arise from the same source, the same ocean.

The mind-body then projects the further additional level of the ego, which says, "I'm me! I'm this, and this, and that." There are many discursive layers of the ego that try to assert its realness, but ego is a pure hologram. It serves a function to help the mind-body navigate a material world, but it is substanceless. The ego arises and dissolves even while you're alive, if you're observant. Where is it when you're asleep? Or in certain altered states? Or when you have a concussion? Or when you're in fight or flight mode? Or a coma?

How did I learn this? Years and years of meditation, consciousness observation, inner inquiry, and surrender. Almost dying a bunch of times kind of cut through it too. If you want to study a system that can sort of point you to it (but not give it to you, since nothing can), look into Advaita.
 
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I'm trying to say that the you who is talking to me right now, the ego structure, doesn't exist. So "you" don't go anywhere. The real you, which is unchanging, pure consciousness, remains the same. It was the same when "you" were born and the same when "you" die.

It's like asking, what happens to water when it becomes ice or vapor? It's still fundamentally and inseparably water, but it can have the appearance of ice or vapor. We can even strongly identify with it as either form. But at the end of the day its essence is unchanged.

My example relates to matter but try to understand this from a consciousness perspective. Nothing is born and nothing dies. It's all an appearance.

A better example might be the waves of the ocean. There are small waves, big waves, waves that last for minutes and others that last for milleseconds. No matter what kind of wave arises, it always dissolves back into the fundamental ground of reality: the ocean. Our individuated natures are like the waves. When we identify with ourselves strongly as waves through ego, then it looks like, "Hey! Look at me! I'm a me! I'm a big wave! So what happens to me when I die?"

Well, nothing happens. You dissolve back into the ground reality that you were always part of.

When you are alive, you are an individuated form of the Brahman. You are Brahman-As-You, totally personified. You are Brahman experiencing Itself by shining the light of consciousness through a human-mind body, just as the ocean funnels water into a momentary, individuated wave. The individuation is a real experience. So you are real, I am real, every unique differentiation in what we call reality is "real", but it all arises from the same source. It's not enough to say "we are all One", because although it's true, it also denies the human level experience. Brahman came through as you, it "wants" (for lack of a better word) to be you. It wants to play as your unique chord. So people who abdicate themselves to Oneness are missing a big piece of their important existence.

There is no experience level with Brahman. Brahman is already perfect and unchanging. A mind-body needs to exist for experience to even happen. Brahman projects through a human mind-body and then that mind-body has the capacity to experience Brahman, but only through itself. It's why I can't experience lief as a dog, or a tree, or an insect. We are "All One" which people are fond of saying, but it's why Oneness-As-Me can't experience Oneness-As-You, even though we both arise from the same source, the same ocean.

The mind-body then projects the further additional level of the ego, which says, "I'm me! I'm this, and this, and that." There are many discursive layers of the ego that try to assert its realness, but ego is a pure hologram. It serves a function to help the mind-body navigate a material world, but it is substanceless. The ego arises and dissolves even while you're alive, if you're observant. Where is it when you're asleep? Or in certain altered states? Or when you have a concussion? Or when you're in fight or flight mode? Or a coma?

How did I learn this? Years and years of meditation, consciousness observation, inner inquiry, and surrender. Almost dying a bunch of times kind of cut through it too. If you want to study a system that can sort of point you to it (but not give it to you, since nothing can), look into Advaita.
Thank you for explaining. I have friends who are Hindu, so I may ask them about this. I did ask the one friend about reincarnation and she said how nobody knows how many previous lives they have had, and that we are not supposed to.

Do you mean the Advaita Vedanta?

 
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