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Does recreational MDMA use decrease the effectiveness of therapeutic use?

timewrinkle

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I want to do MDMA assisted psychotherapy but I've been using it for recreation almost completely, aside from journaling sometimes when I'm doing it alone. I have done it about twelve times in the last 365 days. I assumed talk therapy would be the best method but I read an account where the therapist recommended not talking at all and just lying down. This is intriguing because I don't have a therapist that would do this with me, but obviously I can lie down by myself no problem. It would be nice to have someone watching over me but I'm not sure who I know could do that off hand. So my question is, does doing it recreationally negatively affect the benefits of using it in the therapeutic way I outlined (just lying down and letting your mind (or body) process stuff)? Would I want to wait an extended amount of time between my last recreational use and the therapeutic use? I'm interested in any other advice on how to use it therapeutically that you can provide.
 
I want to do MDMA assisted psychotherapy but I've been using it for recreation almost completely, aside from journaling sometimes when I'm doing it alone. I have done it about twelve times in the last 365 days. I assumed talk therapy would be the best method but I read an account where the therapist recommended not talking at all and just lying down. This is intriguing because I don't have a therapist that would do this with me, but obviously I can lie down by myself no problem. It would be nice to have someone watching over me but I'm not sure who I know could do that off hand. So my question is, does doing it recreationally negatively affect the benefits of using it in the therapeutic way I outlined (just lying down and letting your mind (or body) process stuff)? Would I want to wait an extended amount of time between my last recreational use and the therapeutic use? I'm interested in any other advice on how to use it therapeutically that you can provide.
Just briefly my thoughts- I think the main thing first of all is that it will probably be necessary to take a sufficient break first, like 3 to 6 months, to allow your system and brain to replenish itself as fully as possible so the effects will be as close to optimum and maximum as they can be and also you will be in a fresher condition to enter into the mindset, with the positives just about outweighing the negatives.

Now I do believe that MDMA and psychedelics can be used for psychotherapy and healing and release very effectively although it would appear that better more consistent results are achieved with an experienced and qualified psychotherapist to administer and guide over the treatment and process.

Not to say that this cannot be done Alone by oneself I'm sure it absolutely can but perhaps could be more hit-and-miss depending on the awareness and focus of the individual.

I think along with a substantial break from MDMA first it will be necessary for you to just be mindful of where you are in your life currently and what you are hoping to achieve and gain from the experience and allow your subconscious mind plenty of time to be pondering on this but with a conscious Focus up on it so that your subconscious continues to do the mental processing and configuration to line you up for the experience.

I have similar wishes myself I have obtained 2 MDMA pills which I have not taken since 2005 due to long-term illness from Lyme disease.

I took many thousands ecstasy pills in my youth and I have suffered severe mental stress and trauma as a result of long-term illness and I strongly believe that MDMA could help me in a psychotherapeutic sense however I am really not sure if it is safe for me to take physically because I am extremely intolerant or allergic to just about everything supplement and her boys and I can't take any vitamin pills or any other drugs except clean acid just about.

I can't even take 5 HTP for example without major respiratory and digestive aggravation.

Even if I am confident eventually that it is safe enough for me to take the MDMA I'm nowhere near being physically well enough currently.

But I would be extremely confident about the experience working for me in the way that I would be looking for it to benefit me and I would be entering it automatically poised for release and healing and transformation to occur, because I feel that my subconscious mind and higher self are very aware of exactly what needs to be done and released and so on without me feeling as though I would need to grapple with it mentally.

But then at the same time I do also believe that seeking help from a trained qualified psychotherapist who can affect and influence the experience and how you look at it and enter it and processes afterwards could possibly lead to greater benefit and healing depending on the situation and person.
 
Take a longer break(s), use therapeutic dosing, and get a therapist or student in training to help and you’ll get much more out of it than lying on the floor high
 
As long as you dont have an unhealthy NEED to take drugs, i think the therapeautic side still remains. If you take drugs just to take drugs, it may be diminished. It depends on your relationship.
 
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