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Gabapentinoids The Lyrica (Pregabalin) Mega Thread v 2.0

2 weeks withdrawals from lyrica? May i ask what dose and time? CT or taper? Now phenibut CT?

Those 2 weeks were mainly mental or physical?
 
I've put myself in a hole. Again.
I don't have my usual ability to explain what went wrong this time, but I need some advice...
I have 13 x 150mg pills left (picked up 2 packs of 56 within 2 weeks plus 2 x 50 5mg Valium) and cannot go back to my doctor this time for help.. I'm not "due" for more of anything until August. I've somehow managed to suss out incompetent pharmacies (usually, one did report me) and have somehow just eaten through the lot.
For the past 48 hours I've gone from insanely high daily doses (up to 1,950, 13 pills a day on my worst days).. but usually around 900...) to desperately trying to space out what I have left now.. Tuesday I took just the one 150mg pill ?.. yesterday I took 300mg.
Right now it's Thursday morning and I'm frantic. I want with every fibre of me to swallow everything I have left because of the withdrawals.. I'm literally pacing my house (thankfully I have the next 3 days off work) after a fitful sleep drowning in my own sweat, crying and fighting off suicidal thoughts.
I've taken just one pill today.
13 left.
What the fuck should I do? Is a taper possible with what I have? I want this over with quickly, obviously.. but at the same time don't want to leave myself with none until August..
I know this isn't possible and that's further driving my anxiety...
Help? Please?
Edit.. also have no Valium left, which isn't a problem for me in terms of withdrawal but would have been helpful right now...
 
Just to clarify, my desire is to be able to stick to a prescribed dose because it works so well for my general state of headfuckery. My reality is... I can't. I can't just "take 2 pills" of anything that I find can get me out of myself and escape a little bit. It's not something I plan, even when I get a fresh box.. I think to myself "this time I'll be good"...
Within days I'm taking an extra here and there.. then a shitload.. it's erratic, depending on my mood.
Oh well. Looks like I've fucked myself up good and proper right now.
 
Just to clarify, my desire is to be able to stick to a prescribed dose because it works so well for my general state of headfuckery.
Did i read somewhere that you consume kratom? It will do th3 trick but better order if one wants to give it a go... if it gets buried in a hurricane of politics.
IME
Works wonders for pain and "headfuckery".
Krayom is really in it's own class (IMO) and highly recommended (by me: DR. Love).
Not a doctor....

Have to edit: Going through benzo and opiate WD on the couch not moving and didnt wanna be bothered or move (this was a coupla years ago).
Acquired some kratom and first dose was half a gram (after almost two years I am up to 1 1/2g and this sustains me). In about an hour I got up and mowed the lawn in blazing heat. I felt OK and the WDs were at bay somewhat. I was a fucking mess before kratom.
Do not understand the mindset of taking an ounce or more of this stuff. Does it not have a "ceiling" effect at some point in dosing?
 
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OMG Quickfixgrrl, thats not good at all. There is no way you can safely taper off such a doses with whats left. You need more lyrica or wd's will hit you hard. Like some1 mentioned earlier - 2 weeks with no improvement every day. I got myself through it once for over 6-7 days and gave in - and i think it was just 50-60% what it could be.

The only way is taper, nothing works good enough. Kratom may take an edge off it but won't stop glutamate and nonadrenaline storm through open calcium channels (lyrica inhibits those VDCC). Its very risky and you need find more lyrica.
 
Just to clarify, my desire is to be able to stick to a prescribed dose because it works so well for my general state of headfuckery. My reality is... I can't. I can't just "take 2 pills" of anything that I find can get me out of myself and escape a little bit. It's not something I plan, even when I get a fresh box.. I think to myself "this time I'll be good"...
Within days I'm taking an extra here and there.. then a shitload.. it's erratic, depending on my mood.
Oh well. Looks like I've fucked myself up good and proper right now.

I was the same- unable to change my usage at all, even with strict plans and good intentions. I thought I could cold turkey from 1200-1500mg a day- I couldn't, I lost my shit. Couldn't even figure out a pair of pants.

I went to my doctor and asked him to help me- I asked him to organise a script whereby I picked up a set amount from a pharmacy every 2 days. That way, I only ever had limited supply and even if I ate 2 days worth at once, I wasn't going to be too fucked by it. It has been the only way I could get onto my current 150mg a day.

Can you do something like this?
 
IMO, gabapentlin, pregabalin and phenbut are all drugs that should be taken every 3 days at absolute maximum. Using this pattern, you can avoid dependence and keep the magical nature of the effects going indefinitely. Even every 3 days, with phenibut anyway, produces a very light withdrawal but it's just kind of feeling flat and having it hard to sleep for a day or two to stop. I see so many people hating on these drugs, but what do you expect if you take something every day hat's addictive? You're gonna get addicted. I love pregabalin, I've only done it 3 or 4 times. I love gabapentin, I do it on occasion when I have taken phenibut less than a week before, for the purposes of playing music. I use phenibut to play shows as long as I stick to once a week or less. They're amazing drugs, especially phenibut. I really can't have enough good things to say about it based on my experience. Absolutey 0 social anxiety, very pro-social, I feel "on point", I play better than ever before, and I feel eupohoric and chatty, and best of all, not inebriated.

For some reason, much of the medical profession seem to disregard pregabalin as a dangerous and addictive drug though that seems to be changing...

The same thing happened with benzos... oh, check out this new thing to replace barbiturates, i won't accidentally kill you and it's totally non-habit forming! Some doctors still actually believe that, probably not many now though. Or with oxycodone, it was touted as a nonaddictive alternative to hydrocodone. Yeah, my neft nut. 8) Or GHB, too, when it was sold as Blue Rhino in GNC and stuff as a workout supplement. They claimed it was nonaddictive, yet clearly it is. With phenibut too, people were claiming it's like GHB but non-addictive. Also bogus. I sense a pattern... :unsure: :unsure:
 
i won't accidentally kill you and it's totally non-habit forming! Some doctors still actually believe that, probably not many now though

Yeah, I do see that sort of pattern being played out with pregabalin for sure. When I first got it prescribed the doctor literally said it cannot be addictive because it doesn't enter the brain. I mean, wtf is with that? They're getting clued up now though but it amazes me that I as a lay person can elucidate more about this drug simply using Google than they can using info provided by the pharmaceutical companies themselves. That ignorance can end up fatal to some patients. ?

The problem with selling medications under our economic system is the great incentive to market addictive drugs. Repeat customers are precisely what a growing corporation needs and the rewards are incredible. Thats a compelling reason for the continued pushing of really problematic drugs (for some users, at least) often by intentionally overlooking or downplaying the clear and evident problems their products are causing. I really wish that more information had been provided to me about pregabalin, not that it would probably have changed my ultimate headfirst dive into it. I think cataloguing the issues it and other gabapentinoids may induce is really the only option we have when drug companies will willfully conceal the reality of drugs they are pushing.
 
Yeah. Different story is taking it once a week and different when doctors get you hooked on it claiming: ,, Its safe and non-addictive, you can stop it whenever you want". And then you ending up in shit place because for some individuals taper lyrica is harder than benzos. I know that now and changed my doctor.
 
I found a small orange pill broken in half in my old pill box.. I remember weaning myself off of Mirtazapine in like 2017 so assumed it was that. Didn't think it could hurt so I chewed it up. Within half an hour I was out like a light. I recall being on the max dose of it but it never having that effect on me. I guess it's because I chewed it? My whole mouth went numb, too.
At least I have slept through today.
Feeling flat right now and dreading sleep tonight, the night sweats have been so intense even though it's winter here...
 
OMG Quickfixgrrl, thats not good at all. There is no way you can safely taper off such a doses with whats left. You need more lyrica or wd's will hit you hard. Like some1 mentioned earlier - 2 weeks with no improvement every day. I got myself through it once for over 6-7 days and gave in - and i think it was just 50-60% what it could be.

The only way is taper, nothing works good enough. Kratom may take an edge off it but won't stop glutamate and nonadrenaline storm through open calcium channels (lyrica inhibits those VDCC). Its very risky and you need find more lyrica.

I don't understand the science behind this.. what does your last paragraph mean? Risky how?

I highly doubt I could get anymore.. :/

Thanks for your replies everyone.
 
Lyrica inhibits calcium channels so it blocking flow of other neurotransmitters. Like a brake similar to benzo that binds to gaba-a. When drug is not present in channels means it opens and glutamate and others flooding brain causing wd's. Additionally lyrica converts glutamate into gaba through decarboxylaze, thats why you feel calm - you have loads gaba and not much glutamate. When drug is not present there is not enough gaba (your body stops making endogenous)to stop glutamate storm = withdrawals.
 
Story time! I had an appointment with a group that helps folks come off meds yesterday. They a bit foolishly imo told me to stop taking everything, go into multi med withdrawal until Monday when they’ll sort me out. They said if things get intense to go to hospital. So I did at 9pm. My mental health massively fell apart waiting to be seen at 3am. Finally got in.

I’ve been withdrawing from phenibut. I didn’t want to explain what that was to rushed doctors so I just said I was coming off Pregabalin. He gave me a 300mg pill. went to bed. Woke at midday high as a fucking pigeon. I well expected cross tolerance. Oh well! It’s still in effect now. I’m having no more of these gaba things now but this was a nice ending to it.
 
Dont get hooked on that. Some ppl take phenibut wd's easier than lyrica/pregabalin but that depends of individual.
 
When I first found phenibut, a long time ago, I was taking about 3-4 grams every day for a year. I ran out and couldn't get more at the time and started having shitty withdrawals, it was mostly just crippling anxiety, but in any case it sucked. But my friend happened to send me some 150mg Lyricas. I took 2, and 3 hours later I had no withdrawals and I was incredibly, amazingly high, some of the best euphoria I've ever felt. Lyrica will definitely stop phenibut withdrawals. Worked for about 2 days, then I took another dose, 2 more days, then I took my last dose, and I pretty much felt fine and didn't keep taking either one after that. I started using phenibut again later in life though, but never every day (it's once a week these days).
 
Day 4. 150mgs today. Headache. Fatigue. Low/depressed mood. Shakes. Random jolts of panic. Extremely poor vision.
The night sweats are awful.
I'm doing this. I'm just going to do the only thing that makes sense to me with the pills I have left.. keep up the 150mg for the next few days and then use 75mg for the last remaining and just deal with it.
I'm not getting back on the Lyrica train come August. This is not worth it. I can't put myself through this again.
If I get my hands on a new script I know deep down I'll abuse it, good intentions or not. I can't trust myself.
Looking forward to going back to work after the weekend and keeping myself busy.
I need weed... :/
 
Day 4. 150mgs today. Headache. Fatigue. Low/depressed mood. Shakes. Random jolts of panic. Extremely poor vision.
The night sweats are awful.
I'm doing this. I'm just going to do the only thing that makes sense to me with the pills I have left.. keep up the 150mg for the next few days and then use 75mg for the last remaining and just deal with it.
I'm not getting back on the Lyrica train come August. This is not worth it. I can't put myself through this again.
If I get my hands on a new script I know deep down I'll abuse it, good intentions or not. I can't trust myself.
Looking forward to going back to work after the weekend and keeping myself busy.
I need weed... :/
Stop it cold turkey, take some diatsepam for 1 week , shouldnt cause any wd's, also if you can get take ketamine (without benzos), it will correct youre mood at least for 2 weeks. Not advicing because can cause addiction, GHB will help a lot, lets say 4 day daily use (24h in youre bloodstream dosing every 1-2h) shouldnt cause wd's it helps best. IF you haven't used pregabalin too long the wd's should go away in 1 week, but for depression really get ketamine, there are studies for this.

I used pregabalin daily 1-5g sometimes 2g, but alwasy at least 1g for 4 months without breaks, the wdäs were terrible, so I drunk alcohol 4 days straight, then the worst part went away, yes high doses alcohol will mast the wd's, but there is risk of getting hooked to alcohol. Now I use pregabalin only few times a month, never over 3 days, if I take 5 days 1g doses I get mild wd's for 5 days. Now when I take them I never take over 600mg, my tolerance have dropped, so now just 300mg have good effect, sweet spot is 450mg, I never want to get wd's again, few montsh back I used 10 days pregabalin 1g and then switched to phenibut 5g day. Well got 1 week wd's, not so bad but then I used opioids and speed to take of teh w wd's. Pregabalin is fun only when used rarely.

Best luck.
 
That is real messed up if you were only filling the 3 days early that they allow or whatever. Im gunna make sure to stop doing that my pharmacy is particularly c*nty for lack of a better word. I dont even mean to and probably get them late more often which im sure is a problem too but i live 40 minutes away from the damn pharmacy I aint gunna make a perfect 31. But Im going to make sure i go 31 + now because i dont need any of that nonsense. Umm lyrica, not something I would use other than for opioid withdrawl, I guess that is my thought on that. Glad your doctor has your back, I think mine does but I dont want to give him any (more) reason to doubt.
I like to alternate pharmacies for exactly that reason. It looks like I’m filling my script 4 weeks late instead of 2 days early. They check the national database to see if it triggers an alarm, but they can only see my last fill from when I last went to that chain of pharmacies.
(That’s in the USA)
 
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