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That sounds wonderful and makes me nostalgic for MXE. I once combined a moderate dose of 2C-I (I think 14mg) with 25mg of MXE, did the MXE first and used it as a launching pad, and holy shit was that a strong trip, it was 2C-I so it wasn't really spiritual, it was more like I entered a realm of colorful madness, it was nuts. Fun trip but alarming for a while, I couldn't believe how strong it was.
 
Dissos and psychedelics can be pretty nuts. I once dosed 20 mg MXE along with 15 mg of 4-AcO-DMT and had a pretty hectic trip. For a while I forgot how to use language correctly and was stuttering. I also got pretty manic and went out in public doing weird stuff. I learned to keep the disso dosage lower in such combos lol.

Unless trying to hole. This January I took 20 mg 4-HO-MET and when I started feeling it I took a hole dose of IM ketamine. Had the craziest hole, I can only describe the CEV as "3-D". Whole colorful scenarios playing in my mind, incredibly euphoric too.
 
So I finally got the 2C-E I ordered. But it looked suspect, texture and color were different from the one I had (it's more tanned now, and not at all as fluffy), 1-(2,5-Dimethoxy-4-ethylphenyl)-2-aminoethane was on the bag, where I couldn't find anything about (maybe it's just a synonym, have no idea). I thought, maybe it smells different, so I smelled both bags, and now... as you can imagine, I feel a little strange. My head feels full, and there's the slightest hint of things bending and moving.
I'm a little worried about it, but have no time to test it out for the next few weeks :(
 
Yeah, thats name you posted is the IUPAC for 2C-E (so yes they are synonyms). 2C-E is extremely potent. I once took 2 mg thinking it would be a microdose but for a brief period I while I was full on tripping. Not surprised just smelling the bag would give you mild effects. Do you have any reagent tests? When in doubt, always wise to test your stuff. I think in some european countries, or at least in the netherlands, lab testing appears to be relatively cheap? Don't know about where you are at, though.
 
It came from the Netherlands :)

I don't think lab testing is an option, I had marquis about a year ago, but I dropped it, and never bothered buying new reagents. I know I should, but I'm always in doubt what reagents to get, but now is as good a time as any, I'm looking into it tonight. Really hope the 2C-E isn't too impure, it was expensive, I can tell you that :D
 
I think it's probably okay, I just saw a picture of this batch you're referring to and it looked alright, but of course hard to tell for sure since I was looking at a picture of a bad next to a picture of snow-white 2C-E. Even a trace impurity can cause coloration so the color isn't cause for alarm necessarily. You live in Europe though so you could send a sample to Energy Control, don't they do drug ID for cheap or free? Here in the USA it costs an arm and a leg to have it done. Though I think my buddy just got a hookup to do it for free which is awesome because I want to lab verify a bunch of my stuff.

But yeah 2C-E is crazy potent, I also once took 2mg, thinking it would be a nice day enhancer/sparkle, and instead I was an anxious wreck with visuals because I was at work.
 
I took some little sips to compare the taste and I'm having a great day =D

Yeah the energy control facility in my country closed like 2 years ago, and to be honest its 70 euros + shipping + 50mg. i mean, I'm much better off testing whether its nothing else than 2C-E with some reagents and just hoping that it's very pure. It's not some shady chinese vendor too...
I've been looking at both samples for too long now and apart from the color they are very similar
 
In any case, I shouldn't worry, it was just that I spent a lot of money on it, because it seemed to be just disappearing everywhere. And I was a little disappointed about the result, especially if you compare to the white fluffy goodness that is my other batch.

Anyway, it's just a question of patience, which is something I should get better at :)
I do really like this microdose though, have no idea how much because I was just tasting it, but I kinda overdid it because I didn't believe I really got the taste right you know, and was like 'oh that one was a little sharper, better try the other one again' ;)
I'd expect it to feel more edgy, I had that typical 2C-E stomach feel, but overall it was very pleasant. Euphoric, just this small energetic push that seems to originate in the pelvic area, quite sociable.. I didn't shut up for 2 minutes for the last 5 hours.

I think it has potential, but not if you actually have to do work, doesn't help with thinking at all
 
For me it helps with thinking a lot, but not when I'm forced to do work and communicate with people and stuff. Communication is very difficult for me on 2C-E, but my brain is going a million miles an hour. It seems like people are in 2 camps with 2C-E, either they find it euphoric and pro-social and tons of fun, or they find it serious, intense, emotionally neutral (but with euphoric flashes), and intensely analytical. I'm in the latter group. My +4 I had on it deconstructed reality and I started to see into more dimensions (I could see potential paths branching in front of me and behind me), and I got stuck in a spiral of cold logic that relentlessly convinced me I didn't actually exist, and then I hit the void, the point of awareness in an empty nothingness. It was not fun, but it was absolutely amazing.
 
Shadowmeister said:
For me it helps with thinking a lot, but not when I'm forced to do work and communicate with people and stuff. Communication is very difficult for me on 2C-E, but my brain is going a million miles an hour. It seems like people are in 2 camps with 2C-E, either they find it euphoric and pro-social and tons of fun, or they find it serious, intense, emotionally neutral (but with euphoric flashes), and intensely analytical. I'm in the latter group. My +4 I had on it deconstructed reality and I started to see into more dimensions (I could see potential paths branching in front of me and behind me), and I got stuck in a spiral of cold logic that relentlessly convinced me I didn't actually exist, and then I hit the void, the point of awareness in an empty nothingness. It was not fun, but it was absolutely amazing.
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Well yeah, for me it has always been the second camp, exactly (seriously on point) the emotional neutrality, but with euphoric flashes, it's why I find it such an intriguing psychedelic. It's fun in a strange but extremely satisfying way, I'm not even sure why I like it so much. I have kind of learnt to also appreciate the way it makes my body feel, it can be so extatic physically, during my first trips with it, it felt like poison to my body, but it's all about channeling all of that energy throughout your body. I also read that report, it was pretty insane but I never understood it very well, maybe I'll read it again sometime soon, probably that intensity also had something to do with the piracetam you took beforehand ;)

This low dose was very different in every way, apart from the bodily feelings I'd never even have though it was 2C-E (maybe it wasn't who knows =D ). Since I actually have to study now and for the next few weeks, and it didn't help with thinking in that sense is what I meant. While your mind is going so fast, it's still easy for me so kind of dissociate from my thought patterns and think about it in a very clean and cut way, very different to LSD for me where my mind is also racing, but I never get any rest from it. I've not been able to figure LSD out in that way, but I'm sure I will one time, I just need more experience with it.

I dosed 20mg once at a bad time, and it only really manifested itself after 4+ hours, and it was so intense, and I kept beating myself up, I actually don't remember much of it apart from the intensity and the everpresent sadness. I never went higher, also don't feel the need to. Exceptional psychedelic in any case, I'm glad I'm fully stocked up on it again.

blistersinthedark said:
you'd love to see it:
Psychedelic drug *DESTROYS* Ben Shapiro with spiral of cold logic
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Saw a video recently where this guy got absolutely destroyed in an interview by some British interviewer that was just asking really logical questions, and was handling the interview so well, Shapiro was absolutely lost and constantly had to search for lame personal arguments, it was glorious, hate that guy :)
 
Yeah totally agreed about 2C-E, I always have a somewhat difficult time at least for the come-up/peak, but it's always valuable and it's also very enjoyable. And just fucking strong and highly visual. Even at 10-12mg it makes everything wave and breathe. At 18mg everything was fractals.

I found out today that 2-FMA (not 4-FMA) is pretty fucking amazing. It's like Adderall without the recreational parts or any side effects pretty much at all. I took 20mg towards the end of work and was a working machine, then I plugged 20mg more and went to band practice and it was the best. Got SO much done and my fingers were flying like never before, I wrote a song earlier today and my guitar player in my band and I were working it out and then we played seriously some of the funkiest shit I've ever heard, definitely that I've ever played, his girlfriend and a friend were upstairs and were freaking out about it. I felt like I could do anything. Really talkative and upbeat too and my mind feels quick. And my heart rate never even increased, no sweaty palms, nothing, I have no desire to redose, and I'm pretty sure I'll be able to fall asleep just fine in a little while. I just had a sample but I think I'm gonna get more. I wish I had gotten it instead of 4-FMA, that stuff is basically just meth, it's just too much, feels harmful and it's too intense to be very useful I think. Maybe in a low dose, I dunno. I'm kinda scared to touch it again because I binged on it for 4 days last week and got kinda sick from it.

It's strange how 4-fluoro-amphetamine is very rolly, a beautiful empahogenic drug really, not too stimulating, not much like regular amphetamine, but 4-fluoro-methamphetamine is really not like that at all, it resembles regular methampetamine a lot (but less potent and a bit sketchier feeling).
 
The stimulation it provides is clean and smooth, and it lasts a long fucking time, over 12 hours, I have to take it before 10am or sleep is hard
 
Yeah, 2-FMA last quite I while. I normally still feel pretty stimulated even the next day after taking it.


Hey guys! How are your swirly weekends going? I'm on EiPLA right now. It's pretty strange. Very stoning, kinda sedating even. Muddier and cloudier headspace than LSD. At the same time it's very mild mentally. I see no ego dissolving potential. It's interesting nonetheless. Weird state. I'm clearly altered but at the same time feel almost sober. IT's neutral emotionally, but it has a nice body high. My vision is definitely fucked up, yet there are no geometric patterns, or even much color enhancement. It's dreamy in a way I remember LSZ being. Mild increased appreciation of music, but nothing crazy. All in all is pretty chill, that I can say.









blistersinthedark said:
you'd love to see it:
Psychedelic drug *DESTROYS* Ben Shapiro with spiral of cold logic
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This made me LOL out loud.
 
Hey Img_9999, good to see you again. :D And thanks for the EiPLA info! I almost got some myself but decided to wait and see what people say.... Sounds like a complicated one for sure and not exactly like what people take most psychedelics for but not necessarily bad in and of itself. I'll be very interested to see what people find with higher dosages too, though I suppose that doesn't seem to change MiPLA much so far. Hope you're doing well otherwise too! :)

On the topic of 2C-E: not quite as low as 2 mg but have taken it once so far at 8 mg expecting it to be a low dosage and was blown away by how powerful and satisfying the trip was, I sometimes question if I even want my next dosage to be higher (though I probably still do). Really liked that stuff, and actually found it both very deep and emotional but also sort of neutral at first but also incredibly euphoric and recreational in the later hours.... Only have a little bit of it though so I gotta make sure it goes far.

Ironically, even though I just came back to the forum after a super long abstinence, I'm actually intending to quit all drugs for exactly the last half of this year for multiple reasons, so I've got just under a month left to have some fulfilling trips. This is definitely making me strongly consider making 2C-E one of those if I can swing it, though perhaps I could do something like 2C-P instead since I haven't tried it yet and that will help the 2C-E last longer too and from what I've heard they should be somewhat similar at the least.... Anyone have any input on that?
 
Good to see you too :)

Yeah, EiPLA was not bad at all, just very different from any other psychedelic I've tried. That made for an interesting experience, but it was not profound in any sense of the word. If one were to take it expecting LSD 2.0, then I guess it would be very disappointing.

Regarding 2C-E/P, yeah, they are *kinda* similar, but to me they have marked differences. 2C-P is not as neutral, it feels slightly more empathogenic. At the same time it can get darker. I think they have that "serious" and solemn overtone in common, but their personalities are different. Both are amazing substances. 2C-P always gave me less nausea, but it sometimes had a weird kind of anxious energy. 2C-E had greater music enhancing properties, but 2C-P open eyed visuals were more beautiful and intricate. I remember 2C-P being slightly more clearheaded than 2C-E, but that made for more "functional" introspection. Both are very introspective actually, but 2C-E can be a greater mindfuck. I've heard at higher dosages 2C-P gets awfully midfucky too, but I never took more than 10 mg (Which felt like maybe 16 mg of 2C-E), and at that dosages it was relatively clearheaded. 2C-E feels a little bit more cosmic and analytical, 2C-P is more earthy, warmer and personal. Both can get some sinister overtones at times, but I think 2C-E feels "emptier" if that makes sense, it needs a lot more input to go in any direction. 2C-P drags you along a little bit more.

It's been a while since I last took 2C-P though, memory is blurry. It is actually one of my favorite substances, used to make it kind of an anual ritual for a couple of years. Its extremely long lasting and it always felt like a lot of emotional work was done. Probably the most therapeutic and significant psychedelic for me, but maybe that's idiosyncratic, since it's not a substance that usually get much love.
 
I have 2C-P but haven't tried it yet. I did try it once many years ago but I had way too much accumulated tolerance to really be able to see what it was all about. 2C-E is intimidating to me, every trip pretty much leaves me feeling anxious and overwhelmed for at least one period of time, though it is always rewarding and worth it. 2C-P lasting longer intimidates me too, but from what I've read the consensus seems to be that it is warmer and easier-going generally, so maybe I'll make 2C-P a priority in the near future. Would probably be really nice for a day of hiking and an evening of relaxing.
 
Such a rare substance, incredibly potent, hope to find it one day, but it has got a lot of bad press :(

Never tried it but read a lot about it back when I started getting into psychedelics, iirc people had terrible experiences even on dosages like 12mg, feeling like their brains were burning, bad aftereffects for weeks. But if dosed correctly, it seemed like a more empathogenic 2C-E, gonna make for an epic trip I'm sure :)
 
Hello PD family ❤

Just ate 5mgs of 4-AcO-DMT this morning to add a little sparkle to my day off and test a new batches potency. Very happy right now and was surprised with beautiful and euphoric experience, im such a lightweight these days. It's only a mild psychedelia but It's amplifying life and the world in a special way. The weather is lovely and I'm sitting back eating my lunch and listening to birds sing.

Just got some 2C-C and ETH-LAD to experiment with over the coming months. Haven't ever tasted either of these and im beyond excited. It has been a number of years since i had anything from the 2C-x series so I'm really grateful. Also just got some 4-AcO-DET to run some trials with.

What a beautiful life this is.
Love all of you so much ?✨
 
Img_9999:

Have you tried the MiPLA yet? I'm guessing not since you just got them both last week. Aside from that, yeah, it sounds pretty unique, though I'll admit that I've recently started to become a big fan of largely non-visual and low-mindfuck psychedelics for the sake of being able to focus more on the differences between things like the bodily high and the emotionality of the experience and the impact on normal cognition and such, and it has been quite rewarding so far. Not that I don't still generally prefer a good hard-hitting experience.

I appreciate the perspective on 2C-P vs 2C-E and in general too. :) That is a very insightful and thorough comparison.... Honestly, if 2C-P is like that for me compared to 2C-E then I'm pretty sure I'll absolutely love it, and it may go especially nice as something to do for this last month of my tripping for now because I generally have many more indoles than phenethylamines, so something that is more empathogenic and earthy and all that might actually be really nice to shake up the pattern of cold, alien, and futuristic tryptamines that will probably make up a good amount of the rest of my month. I really like the long-lasting ones too.... Long-lasting drugs in general, really; there's simply more time to get more out of them, though of course most genuinely good drugs don't truly suffer from lasting only a fifth of the day instead of half of it or more.

So, this may seem obvious based on what you said, but I know these things aren't always linear.... If I was, at least as a reference, going for something comparable to my 8 mg of 2C-E in overall intensity, how much 2C-P would you say I should use?

Shadowmeister:

Believe it or not, while I normally experience at least a small amount of anxiety at some point on most psychedelics, I don't really recall it happening on 2C-E. Rather, I spent most of the peak crying cathartic tears... which also doesn't often happen for me, though it's become more common since then. It was an incredibly moving and special experience for me that I look forward to revisiting. My favorite part was when my visuals became giant blue sparkly tears streaming down the surrounding environment and melting it into abstract green Matrix-like code.

I'd love to hear what you have to say about 2C-P as well. :)

Buzz Lightbeer:

I read a lot of 2C-P horror stories too back in the day too, including one that I believe was on 180(!) mg. But yeah, even on more normal dosages, some very intense effects reported... but that never made me want it any less. :) It's certainly the reason I haven't touched the little bit I have yet though; hopefully I'll get over that soon enough. I wish you much luck in finding it yourself as well! ❤

Cosmic Charlie:

Isn't it great how psychedelics get easier, rather than harder to enjoy over time? :) Glad to hear the day is going well for you!

2C-C, ETH-LAD, and 4-AcO-DET are all some of the most intriguing and significant psychedelics I've ever encountered; you're in for a treat. Love that feeling of new explorations on the horizon too....

Love to you too, friend. ❤
 
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