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Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v3

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Good work on all the research. I think healing natural is best as well but it may take a while. You know the story of the lady that swallowed a fly? and then she swallowed a spider to kill the fly. Then she swallowed a mouse to kill the spider, and a cat for the mouse, and a dog for the cat, etc. I think it's dangerous to remedy invega side effects with other antipsychotic medications because you're just left with more side effects and a rise of unforeseen problems.

The cabergoline might be good by the sounds of it. My mom is actually seeing an endocrinologist right now for her thyroid. I may be able to ask for some.
 
I’ve been on cabergoline for the past two months, my prolactin has decreased and my testosterone has increased. However, a lot of the invega side effects are still there, mainly the cognitive issues along with muscle weakness and limited mobility.
 
Well I can't stay away lol, well 7 months off invega now, no real changes im having a hard time copin with having almost no emotions, and anhedonia gee what I would give to be able feel excited or get the butterflys being in love.. Fuck I still can't cry, all I think about is how invega robbed my life
 
@Jonnyhallo 'i stick you to the ass' 6Month and 1 weeks and no improvement at all, we have two Opportunity death or heal .. take hope, its difficult .. i lose hope Everyday but motherfuck i need my life return is most important for me ! Look Pearl harbor if you need to cry haha im no emotion but i cry in this movie like a baby my friend not a joke.. take care and Don't lose hope ! How much injection did you have ?
 
@Antiphycotique33 I had 7 shots the 150 dose. I will say I have hope at least until I hit 12months... But man, I'm just having such hard time carrying conversations, sense I lost interests in everything that made me me, hobbies, movies and music, I can't connect with people. My ex girl recently came back into my life I love her a lot, but I can't connect, most of the time I'm quiet and don't say much, the worst thing is not being able to get excited and feel butterflys. I feel like im in hell being around some u love but no excitment.. Just always feel flat everything feels the same except the pain of rejection, So flustrating.

But I hope that one day my emotions return full and strong. I can't die like this not without having any enjoyment in life. That's my motivation day to day, just wondering how old are u Antiphycotique33? I'm 29
 
Im 20 year old .. I know exactly where you are.. is a hell maybe yes a day your neurotransmitter of dopamine touch you receptor and the receptor can full sensitive of that ! is my goal me too.
 
Rebelhassan said:
I’ve been on cabergoline for the past two months, my prolactin has decreased and my testosterone has increased. However, a lot of the invega side effects are still there, mainly the cognitive issues along with muscle weakness and limited mobility.
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What dose are you on? Did it affect your libido or weight in any way? It should be way easier to lose some weight when your prolactin is in control since it reduces fat metabolism.
 
I need a recovery storie now lol , i lose hope Everyday, all of day same of you i pray for my dopamine became sensitive.. i have impression is permanent is horrible..
 
@Antipsychotique33 From what I've seen, it takes at least 8 months to see some kind of recovery. If you want to speed up the process then excercise is very important so you burn the fat which paliperidone is stored in. Lots of omega 3 (DHA and EPA), some l-carnitine and conjugated linoleic acid for a boost in fat metabolism. Cabergoline might help too in weight loss.
 
Wait, I looked up clozapine, it's just another antipsychotic. Why would more of these dumb antipsychotic drugs help with getting off palperidone? What's great about clozapine?
 
Well I hope you guys will have some answers to my questions.

I was given this shot one time at an acute psych hospital in salt lake city.

I take medications, but honestly they DONT really help all that much, and with ALL the bullshit im dealing with at the moment, I cannot find a psych doctor really, In Arizona, that would work in depth will any of this shit. I have many psychiatric problems there is no doubt about that. I do not know what exactly they are, but I know that I don't have schizophrenia for sure, but I could possibly have bipolar disorder. Right now, I take: propranolol, Wellbutrin, Seroquel at night, doxepin at night, and buspirone. Oh and gabapentin

I have had the same problems for most of my adult life. The main ones are: very HIGH anxiety, social anxiety, I feel like I sweat WAY too much, problems with concentration and focus, testosterone problems, very irritable ALL The time, GI tract problems like diarrhea and nausea, some physical back pain, those are the main ones I can think of right now.

Whenever I go to a psychiatric hospital, they put me on the same generic meds I have taken or been given for years. They don't work. In addition, they don't ever prescribe any controlled substances, and my situation is one that needs to have controlled substances thrown at it right now. There's really no argument about that here. I need IMMEDIATE help, and I also need long term solutions as well. But help needs to be done immediately.

Because of my generally horrible experiences with psychiatrists, physicans, counselors, and anyone else within the American health care community, I like to go to any of them as little as possible. They generally are miseducated, misinformed, ignorant, and they ALWAYS throw the same medications at you as any other ones everywhere. They should be ashamed of how shitty they are at their job, I'd be embarrassed. I will go to them, and I'm sure if I ask for ANY uncontrolled substances, they'll prescribe those. Anything else, I will get in another way

I have testosterone problems, I believe because I have been on Anabolic steroids since maybe 20 years old, and I will continue to be on them for the rest of my life. Only reason I have hormonal problems, is because the USA legal system likes to throw people in jail for STUPID things that are inconsequential, and I wasn't allowed to post cycle right once or twice.

I buy my Anabolic steroids from online sources. They have stuff like arimidex, cabergolin, anything to do with hormones, is at my disposal. So please take into account that I can get my hands on ANY substance that has to do with hormones. I'm not gonna go to an endocrinologist, the last 3 I went to, back when I was around 20 years old and my dad was willing to pay for that stuff, all of em were a HUGE waste of money and mostly didn't know as much as I did for things that had to do with me. They are part of the American healthcare system, a heavily flawed and useless system. So they can go fuck themselves, I'll play doctor to myself, and I have bodybuilding pictures and an athletic career that got me through college to show that I KNOW better than them. Right now, I'm on testosterone cypionate, 200 mg injection 1x a week. I have hcg and more test enanthate ordered, should be here any day now.

Other than those two sources to get whatever substances from, I obviously have the black market, in person drug dealers. Only substances I buy from there are heroin and meth, maybe some Xanax sometimes. I don't trust the lot of these idiots, but I have a very trustworthy and reputable source, that sells heroin and meth.

And after all that, I can also go try that deep web, or dark web, whatever the hell it's called, a lot of people say they can get anything from there.

I have a lot of money to use as resources, I have a good job and money saved. But I WILL not waste money on inconsequential or harmful items. So please, can someone tell me what substances I need to buy, and I'll get it somehow. thank you for your time and help.
 
Guy, Im not a pro medicament, and you take a lot of meds is incredible… testorerone ( welbutrin and seroquel) this meds is a cancer of testo… for me stop all medication.. anxiety heal with bold mindset.
 
It's just a waiting game everyone! I'm so close to 8 months off I could fuck it you know? There's no such thing as "irriversible antagonism". Just gotta wait for protiens to recycle and it'll be even more sensitive than before! Fuck yes! OMG Victory is so close. I say one more month then I'll start losing the bloating in my stomach. Start getting that natural euphoria and tiredness back! Yes! I'll be able to go into deep as fuck trances again! And have mystical natural DMT experiences again! Fuck yes!
 
Its super greats Curtis, im happy for you very happy, for me i lose hope Everyday but i have the same mindset of you, trances again etc.. if i heal i go the sun in the beatch, i take pills of ecstasy and direction firmament after this Fucking hell .. !
 
I was injected with five shots of Invega. I had to get two different starting doses since I let more than a week pass by in between the first and second loading doses. 234mg, 234mg, 156mg, all in October, 117mg in November and 78mg in December. My last shot was at the end of Dec 2018 so I've been off for almost four months.

It's hard to judge my own recovery because it's hard to measure memories of my own feelings. I sometimes can't tell if my own opinion about how I was before Invega has become idealized to the point where, even if I were to return to normal, I wouldn't be able to tell because I've gilded my own memories of "normal" to the point where it is unattainable.

I do know that after my shots I experienced severe akathasia, insomnia, anorgasmia and genital numbness, stomach problems, my limbs going numb often, a blank mind (as in an inability to daydream, peruse or bring up thoughts, or have an inner monologue), my memories no longer have emotions attached to them (I can logically remember that certain memories WERE connected to certain emotions, but I can no longer feel them), and a lack of emotion in general (I can logically tell when I am supposed to have emotions, but no longer experience actual feelings), cognitive slowing, weight gain of 20lbs, and anhedonia. I can best describe it as whereas before invega things had almost too much meaning to me, now I have a hard time finding meaning in anything at all.

After four months I now have some thoughts that can come into my head where it was blank before. I am able to do a little bit of daydreaming. Anhedonia has eased up somewhat and I can care for the things I am doing, though it is no where close to feeling passionate or creative. The insomnia and akathasia are completely gone and I no longer wake up at 5am unable to fall back asleep either. Constipation is easing up, but my stomach still makes weird gurgles where it did not before. I have a little less genital numbness. Cognitively I feel a little quicker. My emotions are still extremely dull and I am using a fake it until you make it mentality to logically attach emotional meaning to things that I know should have it. This is the worst part and the part that I fear the most will never heal.

Finding recovery stories is difficult. I worry that it is because most people relapse instead. Stories from this forum where people have stayed recovered for long periods of time give me, and I'm sure everyone else here, the most hope. I do worry that people don't "recover" so much as forget what things used to feel like and just become complacent to this new flat life. Time will tell. Invega is the worst thing that ever happened to me. Reading everyone's progress helps get me through and I'll continue to update my progress as well.
 
Welcome to the Hell Katrina, i Don't have emotions,libido,inner monologue for 6month and 1 weeks after 1 injection and 3 weeks of pills, i know where you are… is a question of chance now and how you can fight this fuckings anhédonia induced by this antipsyhotics, i wish you the best, a person recover for 6 month other 8,9,10, other 1 year and other never heal at the moment i Don't know why but is a Truth. take care and fight them.
 
Kaatrina said:
I was injected with five shots of Invega. I had to get two different starting doses since I let more than a week pass by in between the first and second loading doses. 234mg, 234mg, 156mg, all in October, 117mg in November and 78mg in December. My last shot was at the end of Dec 2018 so I've been off for almost four months.

It's hard to judge my own recovery because it's hard to measure memories of my own feelings. I sometimes can't tell if my own opinion about how I was before Invega has become idealized to the point where, even if I were to return to normal, I wouldn't be able to tell because I've gilded my own memories of "normal" to the point where it is unattainable.

I do know that after my shots I experienced severe akathasia, insomnia, anorgasmia and genital numbness, stomach problems, my limbs going numb often, a blank mind (as in an inability to daydream, peruse or bring up thoughts, or have an inner monologue), my memories no longer have emotions attached to them (I can logically remember that certain memories WERE connected to certain emotions, but I can no longer feel them), and a lack of emotion in general (I can logically tell when I am supposed to have emotions, but no longer experience actual feelings), cognitive slowing, weight gain of 20lbs, and anhedonia. I can best describe it as whereas before invega things had almost too much meaning to me, now I have a hard time finding meaning in anything at all.

After four months I now have some thoughts that can come into my head where it was blank before. I am able to do a little bit of daydreaming. Anhedonia has eased up somewhat and I can care for the things I am doing, though it is no where close to feeling passionate or creative. The insomnia and akathasia are completely gone and I no longer wake up at 5am unable to fall back asleep either. Constipation is easing up, but my stomach still makes weird gurgles where it did not before. I have a little less genital numbness. Cognitively I feel a little quicker. My emotions are still extremely dull and I am using a fake it until you make it mentality to logically attach emotional meaning to things that I know should have it. This is the worst part and the part that I fear the most will never heal.

Finding recovery stories is difficult. I worry that it is because most people relapse instead. Stories from this forum where people have stayed recovered for long periods of time give me, and I'm sure everyone else here, the most hope. I do worry that people don't "recover" so much as forget what things used to feel like and just become complacent to this new flat life. Time will tell. Invega is the worst thing that ever happened to me. Reading everyone's progress helps get me through and I'll continue to update my progress as well.
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Welcome to the forum Katrina, I’m so sorry you had the injections and going through this horrible nightmare. It’s very tough gauging progress especially in the beginning where you have lost connection to yourself and have a reduced ability to judge what’s going on within and around you.

The good news is that it won’t last forever and you’ll hopefully recover in the 10-12 months range. However, it’ll be tough waiting it out in this emotionless state of being therefore you should occupy your time with activities as reading, watching videos or doing hobbies even if you don’t feel like it.

Some have reported being “100% back to pre-invega” others have partially recovered with lingering loss of emotions, fatigue or cognitive issues. So it’s kind of variable, also as you have stated some may have ‘forgotten’ how it felt with emotions and have moved on. Personally, I have a hard time swallowing that once it’s out I’ll still be affected.

And yes please keep us updated on your progress, stay safe and god bless.
 
I have a question, why this fuckings receptor become sensitive just because you have a little quantity of the poison in your blood ?? i Don't understand how fonctionnate the blood with brain … ? The blood send a signals in your brain what is the idea .. ? Best whishes all of person in anhédonia really i a nightmare unbelievieble, we Don't know if i heal one day, the future is maybe fuckings terrible or fuckings very nice 1 chance in 2
 
@Rebelhassan and Antipsychotique33
Ok so i had two shots. The 156mg Aug 31 then 234 Sept 3. It was hell the first six months. Worst for me was the felt like rock stools. But I tried no more milk diet and that seems to work! I mean not being terrified of every shit is a major quality of life improvement. I take 2000mg of SJW in the morning. I take 40mg melatonin and 1000mg valerian for bed. I don't exercise because there's no point! I'm not going to gain any muscle anyway because of the prolactin. Hmm Koz started working out and gaining muscle again at 12 months. I hear a bunch that either healed or got much better at 10 months. I'm curious about these "windows". I'm predicting maybe one of those around 9 1/2 months. That's when rel is it? Felt euphoria again. From what I've read.. A bunch of things is going to happen around 9 and 10 months. Jmorin talked about withdrawal symptoms around that time. Testosterone increasing too. So I play video games and watch tv.. Or do light meditation in the meantime. Hmm.. Since everything is basically vibrating energy and void right? My theory is this Invega has a very low vibration.. Very dense. So when more and more gets eliminated, I'll notice my vibration steadily increasing. And damn it gets fuckin wicked! I'll notice that electric buzzing sensation all over my body again. Getting more and more powerful the more Invega that's excreted. Damn.. Can't believe I'm saying like two months only now.
 
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