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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Guide to Rectal Administration (Plugging)

Good info guys.

And I'm no expert on rectal anatomy, but it will still be absorbed if your rectum is vertical, right? i.e. you're standing up or sitting.
There might just be less surface area of the walls, but still absorbed.
 
Madrus said:
Good info guys.

And I'm no expert on rectal anatomy, but it will still be absorbed if your rectum is vertical, right? i.e. you're standing up or sitting.
There might just be less surface area of the walls, but still absorbed.
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FWIW, I agree with Psy997. I'll often just be up and about immediately after plugging. So long as the lquid stays inside I don't think it makes any difference to the absorption rate. If you are less experienced however, then you may want to get used to the feeling....
 
Yeah your butthole will keep stuff in there, I generally just get up after about 30 seconds and go about my day.
 
Yep, 1ml standing up and I'm out the door just as fast :D

I used to think leakage could be a serious problem, but I've only ever known one person to immediately expel a codeine CWE after plugging it...
 
The most important thing to keep in mind with rectal dosing is to make the solution diluted enough to avoid burn, when plugging something that burns (like a 2C-X for example, or methylone). If you make it too concentrated, it will cause a burning sensation, which is very uncomfortable and makes you want to void your bowels mightily... also if you have feces up in there, it will cause them to come down like an enema would, and they'll absorb a lot of the substance. If you dilute it enough, though, it basically doesn't feel like much of anything.
 
Never tried plugging methylone, but also never noticed a burn off 2C-x (unless the dreaded snorted route). I think I may have just eroded the nerves there or something...:p
 
Whitefox said:
In my experience, no. Having said that, I've only ever plugged substances that dissolve fully, wheras that guide is for opiates/MDMA which may not fully dissolve.
Honestly, you may feel some pressure for a few minutes after plugging, but it will subside after which you can get up and move around. Obviously the more liquid you use the more presure you will feel, but I often plug 5ml with no issues whatsoever and the liquid is fully absorbed within about 15 minutes. You don't need to lie on your side for that long though; ten minutes lying on your back is generally more than enough IMHO.
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What are you plugging that needs 5ml liquid. I hardly ever go over 1ml. Thats even comboing like 3 substances.
 
I've plugged 5mL liquid before in using stuff that's not very soluble in water, it's more than doable. But I'm pretty sure I have read somewhere that the less liquid the better for plugging when it comes to absorption.
 
yepyepwoah said:
What are you plugging that needs 5ml liquid. I hardly ever go over 1ml. Thats even comboing like 3 substances.
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Doesn't need it per se, but when I got 2c-p I diluted all of it at 2mg per ml (this was before I discovered plugging) for long term storage purposes and because I wanted to be sure of accurate dosage. The upshot is that if I want a high dose of 2c-p I have to use lots of liquid. I don't find it an issue though.
 
Well finally tried this - never had much reason to consider the route except where compounds are really rather weak and the oral dose is becoming prohibitive such as 2C-C and D: Based on 1/3rd of an oral dose being a very conservative place to start. I Just tried a very modest 30mg 2C-D intra rectal - I am guessing 40 or 50mg of 2C-C or D might be an effective dose by this route which would be a saving over oral but otherwise I am not the least bit sold on it as a ROA. It was chosen since insufflation of either would be bloody awful but it was still slightly abrasive - I take the point about dilution but at the end of the day if something is caustic it’s displeasing relationship to a mucous membrane of whatever sort isn’t going to be entirely circumnavigated. Weirdly I noted very slight nausea when this had never been the case with 2C-D orally perhaps even though this was a very low dose; maybe a one off or other factors (such as onset) but beyond the means to an end necessity of increasing potency (and admittedly potentially decreased duration would be a boon) why people are so glowing about this is lost on me. Ideally were larger amounts of material in my possession I’d go oral.
 
The reason for liking rectal administration is that for many, it greatly reduces bodyload and, as you noted, dose. Rectal admin has similar kinetics as intramuscular injection but is of course much safer. Also for substances with a rush, the rush is much stronger with rectal. I don't get bodyloads much anymore so I rarely use rectal these days but occasionally I do. Likely when I try 2C-E again I'll plug it.

I don't feel any discomfort except for the brief discomfort of holding in liquid that can happen (which is mostly ameliorated by using water at body temperature). For something caustic like a 2C-X, I usually use 2-3mL of water just to make sure. I've gone too concentrated before and it can be extraordinarily uncomfortable.
 
This was with 2ml and the initial impact was much less than expected but rose within 30minutes or so - the residual soreness is less now 5hrs later but then the dose might need another 60% or more. It might be noted I have IBS if that is relevant and of course some 2Cs are active at a fraction of 2CC/D. For rush I'm guessing insufflation a fair bit more hard hitting? This struck me as certainly quicker than oral but not likely than snorting but perhaps this reflects the diminutive sub trip dose on this occasion?
It's oft quoted as having lower body load - if the BL in question is stomach discomfort that would make sense but I am unsure why other aspects would be positively effected if it isn't more the GI aspects people are alluding too. Would the relative increase in potency for 2Cs be nearer double? Certainly I don't think this was really near 3x so I guessing somewhere between; it's only this that has forced the issue in my case and the fact snorting 1/20th of a gram of a 2C would likely be far worse.
 
Ahh... yeah IBS might totally change how rectal admin is tolerated.

I do find insufflation to be faster. Of course I also find the trip to be less profound and fundamentally changed in some way to be less mental, in general. With rectal I find this is not the case.

In my experience rectal is generally about 2x as potent, I've never experienced 3x as potent from anything. Generally it's even slightly less than twice as potent, like for example 10mg plugged 2C-E seems roughly equivalent to 18mg orally for me.

But yeah snorting 2C-Xs is awful, it hurts more than any other drug I've snorted. Feels like there is some real damage being done and it nearly ruins the trip for me.
 
I haven't had any issues with soreness after plugging 2Cs. I guess you could try with a less concentrated solution, if you want to experiment further with that ROA. The potency increase doesn't seem that extreme to me, maybe like 2/3 of an oral dose to achieve similar effects, but from what I read I might be the exception here.

The bodyload that I try to diminish by using that ROA is not only about stomach issues but also (mostly with 2C-E) about muscle tension all over the body.
 
What’s the general consensus of how much liquid one should use - more or less? I am almost sure that with less (1-3ml) applied trough a 1ml Syringe it hits quicker, gives no discomfort (as when using a bigger syringe and also the more liquid used) and is prepped fast but I read that the more water is used the rectum could better absorb the ingredient by distribution over a larger part of it’s membranes? As said i believe it’s not like that and less is more, and I am well-experienced with this ROA - I am probably the infamous and, as for now, unofficial „World Champion of Plugging“ - in T-Class (T means Terminator)!

If I’m heading for international waters with my Pirate Ship i let everyone know when receiving the Champions-Belt from the Great Plugging Committee of the Universe (handed over by Rocco Siffredi and some Ho‘s I guess). Can’t wait to take what’s mine..

Cheers and thanks in advance for answering my question, if someone does!
 
tokezu said:
I haven't had any issues with soreness after plugging 2Cs. I guess you could try with a less concentrated solution, if you want to experiment further with that ROA. The potency increase doesn't seem that extreme to me, maybe like 2/3 of an oral dose to achieve similar effects, but from what I read I might be the exception here.

The bodyload that I try to diminish by using that ROA is not only about stomach issues but also (mostly with 2C-E) about muscle tension all over the body.
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This seems about right ie you need about +/-75% of an oral dose to achieve the same effect. 2CC & 2CD both at 60mg plugged still pretty mild. Weird thing is 2C-E I tried at a stupidly conservative 10mg plugged (it didn't burn but it certainly is unhappy stuff in the back end) and the effect I would estimate at likely equipotent to 10mg oral ie all negative effects > gastric distress, uneasiness, tension and other unpleasantness
 
It's interesting how so many people get mild effects from 2C-C... for me, I can take 30-40mg orally and trip quite hard. In fact it hits me harder than 2C-B at equal doses. It's one of my favorite 2C-Xs. In fact my experience matches what's in PIHKAL (which lists the dose at 20-40mg, with heavy visuals at 40mg, which is what I experience. I even like taking 10-15mg for a low dose that gives some of the headspace and mood boosting effects without distracting trippy stuff).
 
Shadowmeister said:
It's interesting how so many people get mild effects from 2C-C... for me, I can take 30-40mg orally and trip quite hard. In fact it hits me harder than 2C-B at equal doses. It's one of my favorite 2C-Xs. In fact my experience matches what's in PIHKAL (which lists the dose at 20-40mg, with heavy visuals at 40mg, which is what I experience. I even like taking 10-15mg for a low dose that gives some of the headspace and mood boosting effects without distracting trippy stuff).
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Anything under 100mg plugged is a waste of time for me. Guess I'm one of those people. No increase in sides at such a dose (not that I get many from it in any case). And I've gone much higher than that too, but you hit diminishing returns very soon. 50mg -> 100mg is a huge improvement, 100 mg -> 150 mg isn't that much better and 150 mg -> 200 mg is not worth the cost. All plugged. If you were to ask me the doses in PiHKaL and other online sources should be at least twice as high.

I still trip, but lower doses are pretty meh while high are awesome. Too bad it costs around the same per gram as other 2cs which makes the price per dose very high.

With 2c-e on the other hand even 14 mg is a strong dose for me especially side effect wise (tbh 2c-p is a lot milder as far as sides go for me). By sides I mean horrible nausea and too much stimulation.

Interesting how we are all this different.

>This seems about right ie you need about +/-75% of an oral dose to achieve the same effect. 2CC & 2CD both at 60mg plugged still pretty mild. Weird thing is 2C-E I tried at a stupidly conservative 10mg plugged (it didn't burn but it certainly is unhappy stuff in the back end) and the effect I would estimate at likely equipotent to 10mg oral ie all negative effects > gastric distress, uneasiness, tension and other unpleasantness

Have you tried 2c-p. 2c-e is unpleasnt for me to but 2c-p is fine. Vaping works too (the salt vapes ok so free basing is not required), hits almost immediately so you don't need to wait 90 min to see if you took too little, just right or too much. but the smoke is quite harsh and hard to hold in. And I imagine ondansetron wold help a lot too if you can get it. It has the best synaesthesisia I've ever gotten from psys so there's at least that.

>I've plugged 5mL liquid before in using stuff that's not very soluble in water, it's more than doable. But I'm pretty sure I have read somewhere that the less liquid the better for plugging when it comes to absorption.not to mention that 5ml will leak if you don't lie down for some time. (and I know the post I'm replying to is from 2017)-

>I've posted on the Lyrica thread but I thought I would try here too. Does anyone know if you can plug Lyrica? Is there to much powder?
Just eat it's bioavailability is very high with oral administration.


Can you plug lysergamides on blotters(just curious )? I know benzos in pg work (in ethanol should work too but concentrations of ethanol that high will be uncomortable. I know you can lick 25x-nboh blotters and place them in your nose and get normal effects.

>But yeah snorting 2C-Xs is awful, it hurts more than any other drug I've snorted. Feels like there is some real damage being done and it nearly ruins the trip for me.
4-fa is worse imo. The high potency 2c-x aren't that bad for me because the amount is so small.
 
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