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Hey guys,

Still alive. Been having some serious health issues. I have had a sleep study done, yes and I have something called "REM sleep behavior disorder". It sucks. It has been really flared up. It has just barely calmed down and I'm so tired.
I finally have gotten some sleep. I have been sleeping for days now. I'm still tired.

I'm going back to sleep. I just wanted to check in and let you know I am okay.

I hope everyone else is doing alright.

Love you guys!
Can't morphine cause or exacerbate that? Pretty sure I read somewhere that opioids really fuck with R.E.M. Sleep so maybe if you got that disorder and you're on morphine it could be making it a lot worse? I may be talking out of my arse but maybe it's something to check into.
 
Can't morphine cause or exacerbate that? Pretty sure I read somewhere that opioids really fuck with R.E.M. Sleep so maybe if you got that disorder and you're on morphine it could be making it a lot worse? I may be talking out of my arse but maybe it's something to check into.
I have some seriously messed up sleep patterns on oxy. When I have transferred to Loperamide and tapered way down I notice I sleep more regularly. Its difficult to explain but I definitely sleep better when Im off the drugs. It follows in hand with pooping regular too.
I also figured out that if I take an oxy within two hours of bedtime I wont fall asleep even if Im really tired. If I wake up in wds I can take a very small dose and go back to sleep just fine. But getting to sleep when my blood-oxy level is rising can be impossible.
 
I feel like shit all day every day. I never feel right anymore, even when I am so-called high. If I'm high, I typically get really angry now and quickly pass out cause I don't want to be awake. Rarely, I can get some enjoyment out of pot. The only thing in my life I get any enjoyment whatsoever out of anymore are essential oils.

There is nothing new here. I fucking hate my life and wish I was dead. I don't know when, but one way or another I am done. I cannot handle life perpetually alone.

I started a creative project with a huge scope, it is a brilliant idea one of my best. I worked on it for 2 days it is highly technical and hands-on but now I'm depressed again. I am going to cut my wrists some more today yea I started doing that after I forgot to say "you can text me if you want" yet again. Unbelievable. I could slit my own throat and not give a fuck.
 
Just on the verge of screaming all the time now. Seriously. And I do, all I do is scream at the top of my lungs until weed calms me down. This free QP is not good I'm smoking way more weed than I already was. It's not even keeping me from cutting my wrists, literally no drugs even work at all anymore other than coffee and it's cause I have one a day. Today I'm having like 10 though I'm not passing out to waste these anxiety meds feel at peace for once. Generally I just slouch over for the day when this happens.

Right now I wake up all I want to do is scream and trash my place. I have hurt my back badly doing this. It's better to taking scissors n shit to my arm why take this out on my place I will just have to clean up later but the fucking scummy ugly fucking piece of shit DUMBASS. Well, this fucking scum has had enough time on planet earth it can fuck off I won't even remember. I won't even fucking REMEMBER.
 
Pm'ing you.

Just on the verge of screaming all the time now. Seriously. And I do, all I do is scream at the top of my lungs until weed calms me down. This free QP is not good I'm smoking way more weed than I already was. It's not even keeping me from cutting my wrists, literally no drugs even work at all anymore other than coffee and it's cause I have one a day. Today I'm having like 10 though I'm not passing out to waste these anxiety meds feel at peace for once. Generally I just slouch over for the day when this happens.

Right now I wake up all I want to do is scream and trash my place. I have hurt my back badly doing this. It's better to taking scissors n shit to my arm why take this out on my place I will just have to clean up later but the fucking scummy ugly fucking piece of shit DUMBASS. Well, this fucking scum has had enough time on planet earth it can fuck off I won't even remember. I won't even fucking REMEMBER.
 
I hope you feel better today mtop.

You're doing a great job with your taper, do what works for you, here if you need anything my friend,

Much love,
Ash.

Good to hear your able to sleep. But sleeping for days sounds extremely annoying. Is that from your sleep disorder?

I woke up feeling horrible today. I only stayed at .5 for 5 days before I went to .37 which was a mistake lol. But today is 4 days in and I'm just gonna try and stick it out. If I can't I'll do .43 for 1 day then go back to .37. Once I go down I've always told myself that I'll never go back to my previous dose. Gonna smoke some weed hopefully it'll help.
 
All my friends

Hi Squeaky and dj,

I hope you're both doing well, it was nice to come on and see you both had posted.

PO, Oh my goodness that sounds awful honey, you are very strong to deal with this all, please take it easy and update me when you have time and feel up to it.

Praying for you.

Shroomy I pm'd you.

Love you all,

your friend,
Ash.
 
Slowly showing improvement. Recognizing the patterns and reasons.

Still feel like shit every fuckin day. Just realized the worst day of the year is almost here. Unbelievable to me how I am this far into the new year.

I am going to throw my life away if I can't snap out of this seemingly anxiety based depression. I have been watching myself do it for far too long.

I don't have the same hope that I used to. I don't think I was anything but mildly depressed before and doctors agreed, even when I was getting on opiates and benzos. I think that has significantly worsened due to the feelings of hopelessness, and apathy. Makes sense, my anxiety is at its worst and I don't have a remotely satisfying or happy life. I know I won't be me forever. I would like to enjoy life while I am on this planet. So far, I can't really say that I have taken advantage of being incarnated as a human spirit. I regret it all. It will probably end sooner than later. I don't understand myself or why I would be attracted to drugs.
 
Slowly showing improvement. Recognizing the patterns and reasons.

Still feel like shit every fuckin day. Just realized the worst day of the year is almost here. Unbelievable to me how I am this far into the new year.

I am going to throw my life away if I can't snap out of this seemingly anxiety based depression. I have been watching myself do it for far too long.

I don't have the same hope that I used to. I don't think I was anything but mildly depressed before and doctors agreed, even when I was getting on opiates and benzos. I think that has significantly worsened due to the feelings of hopelessness, and apathy. Makes sense, my anxiety is at its worst and I don't have a remotely satisfying or happy life. I know I won't be me forever. I would like to enjoy life while I am on this planet. So far, I can't really say that I have taken advantage of being incarnated as a human spirit. I regret it all. It will probably end sooner than later. I don't understand myself or why I would be attracted to drugs.


Unfortunately conflicts over money have the power to destroy even the strongest of relationships and sadly $ it's the source of happiness. If you try to figure yourself out spend some time alone and see what you like or not, both positive and negative, do something to get out of your basic routine.
 
Yeah you are talking out your ass and there really is a war on pain patients.
I can trust no one.

I have been the one dealing with multiple severe health issues for years and years now and I know what helps me best.

It has gotten to the point where no doctor I can find even checks out the problem.

I don't even dare speak on here. I'm out.

Good luck guys.
 
Yeah "hustling" which I don't even know what that is has caused real fucking suffering for others!

And some people really need opiates for actual pain control!
 
OMG what has happened here!!?? PO who are you responding to?

You know I know how hard it is for us pain patients. I get it.

You can't go anywhere, you have a good heart and people need you here.

your friend, always,
Ash.



Yeah you are talking out your ass and there really is a war on pain patients.
I can trust no one.

I have been the one dealing with multiple severe health issues for years and years now and I know what helps me best.

It has gotten to the point where no doctor I can find even checks out the problem.

I don't even dare speak on here. I'm out.

Good luck guys.
 
^What she said.

I just pm'd her because I don't know wtf is going on with painful one lately we were close in touch before so something has changed.
 
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Seems maybe the post that PainfulOne responded to must have been removed by the mods. Its not like her to be that short without a serious reason
 
I need some serious help. Here's a quick run down. Been on subs for about 5 years, got down to .7 then had emergency surgery. I have been clean from subs now for 5 daysish, from the portals like 3 days (besides valium which doesn't help me sleep at all). I am in a ton of pain and was hoping for a clean break from everything forever. I really need to take my pain meds. Should I? I still have plenty of subs----please help
 
I need some serious help. Here's a quick run down. Been on subs for about 5 years, got down to .7 then had emergency surgery. I have been clean from subs now for 5 daysish, from the portals like 3 days (besides valium which doesn't help me sleep at all). I am in a ton of pain and was hoping for a clean break from everything forever. I really need to take my pain meds. Should I? I still have plenty of subs----please help

Hard to say. Do you mean pain from surgery or pain from withdrawls?

I'm currently down to .25 of subs and personally am trying to get lower before I quit. Id be nervous to quit at .7 but others have quit from higher mgs and got it done.

If you have the will, just take the smallest amount possible on your lortabs for your pain. Don't take enough you get high. And never touch subs again.

When your pain is more tolerable quit the lortabs and never look back. It's much easier and shorter conning off lortabs than subs. Maybe save your valium for when you fully quit, to make the wds easier.

Just let us know if you have other questions, and good luck
 
Oh my God, I can't thank you enough for replying. I have done just that. The pain from surgery is prolly 89% of it. I guess I am just so afraid that I will now have lortabs to withdraw from after being at LEAST a quarter the way thru sub withdrawal. Do you think this will happen?
 
Hey no problem.

I think due to how long youv e been using opiates that you will be going through some withdraw no matter what. At what level that may be is anyone's guess. But I can guarantee loratab is easier to come off than subs. How much lortab do you take in a day?
 
I've got a wicked bad headache to the point it has taken me out for the time being. Fuck I know there would be an essential oil for this - peppermint, alas. I don't have any since I am focussing my research on just a few. I'm seeing if sage oil can help at the moment. I had wicked bad muscle aches and I don't anymore. It is like inhaling an anti-inflammatory and acts quickly but I need to test it more and look into the studies. There are 5 major components of the oil some of which are anti-inflammatories, others antioxidants it's really good for you and has the closest effect on the mind as weed does that I know of. It puts you in an indica like, stimulating but relaxing state of awareness so I really like it. When it's going, it is like living in a forest and these pine type oils can really improve memory. There is hope for my fried brain. I heard up to 75% for rosemary. The would cover a lot of the lost brain cells.

Okay, so yeah, I have that ADHD shit or whatever I forget what I came here to write. I've always been that way though, no idea how I remained good at school. I guess cause with a lot of math involved you can just do it and don't have to memorize much. That's not true though I just got lucky I didn't fail out I guess.

So yeah I'm not right in the head right now because I skipped a bunch of benzo doses. I don't want that stuff accumulating, I thought it was a good thing but really it toxifies the body. Etizolam never accumulated these prescriptions drugs are actually al lot worse and I also find they make me a little dumbed out unlike etizolam, but necessary for tapering when they don't know what that shit is.

Are headaches a common symptom of benzo withdrawal? I have not experienced this. It could be, that I haven't had a coffee in two days (I just had one to make sure, and my late taper dose). The headache is like, depressing me. I have to lay down. There is so much pressure. It's a lot in my forehead it feels like my brain is fucking sizzling like actually this is your brain OFF drugs that's how fucked up they can get. I feel perfectly, 100% normal when I have my benzos just with memory problems and otherwise I get absolutely nowhere in life and not only that but become a little shit disturber and annoy everyone around me never do anything productive lay in bed all day depressed start talking shit like suicide nobody likes me when I'm tapering benzos. Lost a lot of friends cause I suppose I'm self medicating.

The fucking headache though. Is that this benzo shit. It could be coffee I drink so damn much like wayyyy too much coffee and I know that is like symptom #1 but I'm not dependent on coffee, just lazy as fuck without it and stupid. I rarely drink it actually these days only two small cups a day at once, and in the evening like now. I hope the headache isn't from that. I just hope it goes away this is ridiculous it could just be a normal headache too or maybe if stress can cause them. But this is actually fucking painful it's similar to a migraine. I actually think this would qualify as one. I haven't had a migraine since I was a kid though and I remember they were hell and I can at least type so I don't really know. Hopefully it subsides what a random thing to happen.

Otherwise, had a wonderful day. It was in the stars, ruling planet connecting with the moon in my sign.
 
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