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The SEX ALLEGATIONS Megathread

Sexual assault and child abuse being present in highly esteemed and reputable organizations such as the Government, Catholic church and the entertainment industry?


Yeah it's pretty unlikely, there us no way anyone would possibly use their position of power and resources to abuse kids or other crimes.
 
zephyr said:
Sexual assault and child abuse being present in highly esteemed and reputable organizations such as the Government, Catholic church and the entertainment industry?


Yeah it's pretty unlikely, there us no way anyone would possibly use their position of power and resources to abuse kids or other crimes.
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I think its pretty uncool to try and link the very real child-sex issues of the Catholic church and the entertainment industry with the sort of global paedophile conspiracy that Jgrimez is espousing. Its crosses the line into the territory of utterly crass for me.
 
swilow said:
So, are you implying that the current lack of lawsuit suggests a fear of 'discovery' (and somehow implies guilt)?
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Yes. These types of accusations are potential career-enders. This the type of stuff that you sue people for defamation over.

For example: Lawyer: We're 'finalizing' a libel lawsuit against Elon Musk over 'pedo' tweet
Innocent people sue, guilty people stay silent. Obviously I'm not saying that it's a smoking gun, but why is Kappy allowed to continuously and loudly out these people as pedos? His reach continues to grow.

swilow said:
Equally, you could argue that the fact that all this guy is doing is 'livestreaming' implies 'lack of evidence'. Is there any specifically relating to the people you are throwing mud at here?
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A woman named Sara Ruth Ashcraft claims that Tom Hanks (and others like Jonathan Freeman, voice of Aladdin's Jaffar) raped her when she was a minor. I actually didn't believe her claims until Kappy started speaking out and personally named Hanks.

Yeah, it almost sounds . . . I dunno, implausible doesn't it?
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Appeal to ridicule is how people and the media cover it up.

swilow said:
I think its pretty uncool to try and link the very real child-sex issues of the Catholic church and the entertainment industry with the sort of global paedophile conspiracy that Jgrimez is espousing. Its crosses the line into the territory of utterly crass for me.
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What would you call the Pope covering up for hundreds (if not thousands) of priests around the world? Sounds like a global pedophile conspiracy to me, don't you agree?
So what this only extends to the Catholic Church?
What I find crass is people that are unwilling to take this seriously and honestly investigate it for themselves.
I understand it's uncomfortable, I also don't want to admit that many of my heroes (and basically the entire Hollywood elite and a whole bunch of politicians) could be involved in some absolutely reprehensible behavior.
But once you learn about blackmail operations like Brownstone - the picture becomes a lot more clearer.
There is enough evidence out there, especially with Pedogate(Pizzagate) blowing right open that nobody has ANY excuse to deny this is happening.
If Trump was a pedo I'd be devastated, but I would never ever deny it or ridicule to entire investigation (which many do to protect politicians)
 
Lest I remind you that Denis Hastert (who was the Speaker of the House!) went to jail for pedophilia. He was a Republican.
Then we see an email from John Podesta (a Democrat) saying that his pal "Denny" should probably go spend some time on "an undisclosed Japanese island" until the shit blows over.
If you've been following the scandal then you'll know that Podesta is neck deep into all this stuff.

This is not a partisan smear campaign or "a vast right-wing conspiracy".
It incriminates Susana Martinez, who was a FEMALE REPUBLICAN governor.

The last thing I would want to do is accuse someone of such a serious crime without proper cause.
 
JGrimez said:
The last thing I would want to do is accuse someone of such a serious crime without proper cause.
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Innocent people sue, guilty people stay silent.
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If 'proper cause' is 'failure to sue a nutjob, then I think your definition of the term is incredibly liberal.

Yes, nutjob.

Anyway mate, we've covered this ground a few times already. CE&P really isn't the place to discuss this stuff and I think I've asked you before to drop it, or better yet, confine it to the conspiracy theory thread.
 
swilow said:
Yes, nutjob.
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I don't see how that proves anything. People do get killed for attempting to blow the whistle on this stuff.
Isaac Kappy was close friends with Seth Green and he's starred in multiple big-budget movies - he's as close to a 'Hollywood insider blowing the whistle' as we're going to get.
It actually infuriates me when people demand evidence yet ignore or ridicule whistleblowers.

swilow said:
Anyway mate, we've covered this ground a few times already. CE&P really isn't the place to discuss this stuff and I think I've asked you before to drop it, or better yet, confine it to the conspiracy theory thread.
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OK so you're admitting there is a global pedo conspiracy within the Catholic Church, probably within the entertainment industry, but when it comes to politics - oh no, that's a "conspiracy theory".
I wonder how much evidence you require before you begin to at least entertain the possibility.

I'll refrain from discussing "Pizzagate" in this thread but I will continue to post articles as more people are officially exposed.

I will also await an apology from anyone that previously doubted me.
 
I actually don't doubt that there is rampant pedophilia, as well as rampant sexual abuses of any kind, as well as organized coverup efforts, within politics, and any positions of power, now and throughout history. I still think "Pizzagate" is a (shockingly successful, considering) smear campaign.
 
Swilow I implore you (and everyone else) to watch this video.
It was made by Fiona Barnett, an Australian survivor of ritual abuse.
This needs to be known

 
Shadowmeister said:
I actually don't doubt that there is rampant pedophilia, as well as rampant sexual abuses of any kind, as well as organized coverup efforts, within politics, and any positions of power, now and throughout history. I still think "Pizzagate" is a (shockingly successful, considering) smear campaign.
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Yeah, I agree. The paedophilia conspiracy doesn't seem so much like a conspiracy as just the fact that likeminded people have to get together and organise their evil shit on the darknet/closed societies/groups etc. Occasionally they get busted, or a paedo ring gets cracked open. But I guess in many instances it's the same pattern of power abuse that's behind much of the Weinstein/#MeToo stuff.

However I do think they're somewhat different cases and it's easy to lose the individual messages when you just blend it all together into #MeToo. Or maybe I'm wrong, I'm not sure about it tbh.
 
I'd look into pizzagate more, there's a surprising amount of unsettlingly synchronous information there.
 
Pizzagate is a thoroughly discredited attempt to combine certain politicians, conspiracy theories, and pedophilia.

Until blatantly inappropriate, criminal sexual behavior is acknowledged, do we need to make up code words, celebrities leaving pizza boxes or whatever, and to create non-existent basements for children to be hurt?

Unfortunately, sexual abuse has become politicized to such an extent as to trivialize the harm being done to the victims, whether they are children or adults, or their abusers are Republicans or "liberals".

WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL MULVANEY: TRUMP STILL FREQUENTLY ASKS WHY ROY MOORE LOST LAST YEAR
 
cduggles - you realize that criminals (and especially pedos) use code words to avoid detection?

"Let's get some pizza" is safer for them than "let's go rape a child"

The "non existent basement" is disinformation and repeating said claim exposes that one is not completely familiar with the scandal and legitimate evidence.
 
Keith Ellison Abuse Accuser: Democrats Have “Isolated” Me

The woman who accused Democrat Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison of domestic abuse claims she has been “smeared, threatened and isolated” by the Democrat party.

Last month, former girlfriend and Sierra Club activist, Karen Monahan came forward and accused Ellison of physical and mental abuse. While Ellison acknowledged his relationship with Monahan, he denies the allegations.

Fox News reports:

Monahan slammed the Democratic Party for its response to her allegations when compared to its treatment of Christine Blasey Ford. Ford has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of attempting to force himself onto her during at a high school party nearly four decades ago, prompting prominent Democrats to get behind Ford’s allegations.
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cduggles said:
Unfortunately, sexual abuse has become politicized to such an extent as to trivialize the harm being done to the victims
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i was thinking the exact same thing in the Kavanaugh thread.

shame sexual assault gets desensitized today.
 
Escher's Waterfall said:
You do realize that 99.9999% of the time, a common word like "pizza" will refer to pizza.
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And what about the 0.1% of the time?
How often would elite politicians be emailing each other back and forth about pizza before it becomes suspicious?

In the Podesta emails:

What is a "handkerchief with a pizza-related map" on it? (some sexual abusers use handkerchiefs as mementos - if they're no connection then explain what that description is, and why it's important enough to email a high-level politician over it).

"Beans" would just mean "beans" most of the time - but if you're monitoring criminals and they start using weird words, it doesn't take a genius detective to work out that they're speaking in code. This forum especially should be well aware of this...
 
JessFR said:
God pizza gate is hilarious. Even by conspiracy theory standards it's soooo hilariously absurd.
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If it's absurd then you should easily be able to offer a completely logical and sensible explanation.

What is a handkerchief with a pizza-related map on it, and why would it be important?
 
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