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Xanax vs Valium my observation

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I suffer from severe anxiety so i got myself some drugs to relieve this unbearable plague.
I got both xanax and valium,and i gotta say that xanax is way more efficient in reducing anxiety,it really makes me feel normal again,first time i took 1mg and it completely removed all of my worries and panic attacks the only side effect was that it made me sleepy but it was all worth it,of course with time i had to increase the dose now i take 3mg when needed.
In contrast valium has no effect on me, it makes me sleepy just like xanax but it doesn't reduce my anxiety,i just took for the first time 20mg a couple of hours ago with a 0.5L beer and nothing happened.
From my understanding valium is weaker than xanax.
Do i need a higher dose of valium say 60mg to get rid of anxiety?
 
Second, are you prescribed these meds?
No because first of all i'm the best doctor no one knows me better than me and second my doc would probably send me to see a therapist which would achieve nothing but waste my money because i have a chemical imbalance in my brain.
 
I don't understand why you need to take the valium if the xanax works fine for you?

Valium - diazepam is much more of a muscle relaxant benzo than aplrazolam (xanax) so that'll be why you get more tired.
 
I wanted to see if there's any difference (if the sleepy side effect was gone if i took valium but it's the same) between the two,i'm probably gonna stick to xanax.
 
Please see a professional about this issue, because self-doctoring isn't always good (read: most of the times). You said yourself that you are already on 3 mg's of Alprazolam (Xanax) and coming from someone with C-PTSD, GAD & SAD that seems like a really high dose already so you must have been taking it for weeks already IMHO, right? Consider yourself hooked on Benzodiazepines for that matter then, but you can always taper 0.25 mg of Alprazolam each week and then drop off when you have reached 0.25-0.5 mg :)

I personally an prescriped three Benzodiazepines and often buy a lot more but always make sure I'm only dependant on my three main (legitimate) scripts: 2 mg Clonazepam (0.5 mg Rivotril tablets) + 30 mg Diazepam (5 mg Valium tablets) + 20 mg Temazepam (20 mg Restoril gelcap) which I take for the following effects I get from those: Clonazepam: anti-anxiety / Diazepam: general mood lift and muscle relaxant / Temazepam: moderate to severe insomnia, and have used the more common following ones: Alprazolam / Lorazepam / Oxazepam / Midazolam / Triazolam / Flunitrazepam / Nimetazepam / Bromazepam / Chlordiazepoxide / Etizolam / Loprazolam / Nitrazepam / Phenazepam / Clonazolam / Flunictrazolam / Flubromolazolam / Diclazepam / Nifoxipam and some more relatively more unknown to the general public ones (like RC Benzodiazepines or really obscure ones).

You want to know about Diazepam? Well Diazepam isn't really like Alprazolam at all but can be calming so I would suggest for every mg of Alprazolam that you take, take 10 mg Diazepam and do not mix thenm together on your first times and when you do take lower amounts from each Benzodiazepine then you would normally take, so if you were to take 10 mg of Diazepam per 1 mg of Alprazolam start with 2 mg Alprazolam and 20 mg Diazepam. When trying Diazepam on it's own try 30 mg for starters and see where that takes you. BTW: don't drink when taking Benzodiazepines even if it's just a small amount, it may impair your judgement and make you do dumb stuff you'll regret or you'll have the possiblity of 'blacking out' on Benzodiazepines + Alcohol were you would wake up the following day (or week LOL) in a different city without clothes on or something like that, having to retrace every step you've made the lst 24 hours or so.

Hope to have helped you out here! :)


-- Peace o/
 
'' you must have been taking it for weeks already IMHO, right?''

I take xanax twice a week,or if the situation demands it 3 times,at first i took 1mg,0.5 in the morning and the rest after a couple of hours for a few weeks,then i needed more to get the same effect.
If addiction is the price for a normal life then so be it,i don't plan to quit taking xanax.

''BTW: don't drink when taking Benzodiazepines even if it's just a small amount, it may impair your judgement and make you do dumb stuff you'll regret or you'll have the possiblity of 'blacking out''

I drank a beer today when i took my valium pills and nothing happened,blackouts probably happen when you take higher doses with a stronger alcohol like vodka.
 
Don't worry i never drink when i take xanax,i drank today because valium is weaker so i thought to give it a boost but nothing happened.
 
Well honestly I liked Calium more. It was subtle and not the blow to the head type of feeling Xanax had on me.
I have OCD and in 08 my anxiety was beyond what I had ever experienced.

I first took klonopin in the ward and it was so nice. It melted all the anxiety and made me feel like I was on XTC you know that skin touch feeling? My muscles loosened up and I was able to relax.

A doc prescribed Valium and it was weak but it did the job. Then I ran into the problem of not being able to find a doc that would help and I bought Xanax off the street. That was an addictive cycle. It worked but I ran thru like twenty Xanax in three days.
 
OP, I wont tell you what to do, but please just be aware that xanax withdrawal is pretty much worst withdrawal in the world and can kill you. If you plan to stay on benzos for a long time, I would recommend not coming off them cold turkey. Do a taper or better yet, get professional help.
 
Pickledlemons said:
OP, I wont tell you what to do, but please just be aware that xanax withdrawal is pretty much worst withdrawal in the world and can kill you. If you plan to stay on benzos for a long time, I would recommend not coming off them cold turkey. Do a taper or better yet, get professional help.
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Definitely. Addiction isn't the price of a normal life, because normality goes out the window eventually. You seem a bit agitated, honestly, do you truly believe that you're on the right track with the self-medication that reads like abuse, not treatment of symptoms.
 
Throwdown said:
Unfortunately it's the only way. I am the same and I have tried every other route. I'd rather live my life happy and be able to do the things i want that live in a ball of anxiety and unhappyness.
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I was talking to the sonic guy, I have zero insight into your life, therefore wouldn't begin to apply what I said to him (based on what he chose to share), but obviously there's a difference in taking drugs like benzos safely, and at an appropriate dose/frequency, and what sonic is saying. Again, I don't know what you do, but if you're leading a happy, productive life, and are able to maintain that in whatever way, I certainly wouldn't criticize such
 
Pickledlemons said:
OP, I wont tell you what to do, but please just be aware that xanax withdrawal is pretty much worst withdrawal in the world and can kill you. If you plan to stay on benzos for a long time, I would recommend not coming off them cold turkey. Do a taper or better yet, get professional help.
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I appreciate your concern but like i said i'm not gonna stop taking xanax,because my anxiety problem is permanent,i've always been this ways,it didn't just happened one day,i've had these symptoms for at least 10 years now,but only recently decided to do something about it.
Im not gonna go back to those dark times where i would be feeling nervous for no reason, my mood kept changing from one minute to another,and even talking on the phone was an extremely difficult challenge.
Therapy only works in movies or for people who have very minor problems.
 
^Indeed, but please try to get a legitimate script for Alprazolam or Clonazepam (or even Lorazepam) so you won't have do score them on the street and always have a steady supply and most important: your problems are being recognized by other people in the professional field even! :)


-- Peace o/
 
Klonopin has always been less addictive in the sense that I just didn?t abuse it. I did go over board when I got a script of Valium and Xanax was a monster to me.

I would say go with klonopin if you can get a script because it will ease your anxiety without causing much addictive tendencies at first.

I would suggest also weaning when you stop. NEVER cold turkey a benzo. I moved to TN last year and was yanked off of three mg a day and had two grand mal seizures.
 
It's important to familiarize yourself with the pharmacokinetics of some of the drugs that you are taking. Any drug, for instance, can follow a simple path to effects requiring little to no metabolism to become active. Codeine is a great example. It must be demethylated to Morphine in order to become active. The variability in potency is going to be due to individuals' varying enzyme activity. Some are more efficient than others, rendering the drug ultimately more potent.

Diazepam (Valium) is going to follow a more complex metabolic process than some of the newer Benzodiazepines, like say, Alprazolam (Xanax). A large portion of the effects of Diazepam are due to its active metabolites, namely Desmethyldiazepam. So, you can conduct your own research to ascertain a better understanding of the specifics of this stuff, but in general, drugs with less complex metabolic processes are going to effect each individual in a more predictable way. Drugs like Diazepam are going to have a wider variability in terms of effect just because people have differing enzyme activity.
 
^ People rarely bother to study the drugs they take every single day

Oddly enough, Clonazepam(despite being proven more superior long term compared to two other common benzodiazepines) seems more likely to cause paradoxical effects, despite a slow though predictable metabolism

Codiene and it's family of prodrug still being around is, odd, to say the least
 
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