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What are you listening to? XXIX : Foolsgold, your audialgasms will never be forgotten

Obviously I'm gonna disagree vehemently with the vocalist aspect... However, that is one of my favourite live versions - even including a number of ye olde recordings of significantly lesser technical quality but infinitely better soul. I will, naturally, return a live show which captures both decent sound, video and a reasonably peak-era performance...

The Stone Roses live in Blackpool 12.08.1989

Vocalists are always gonna be highly subjective, but I honestly cannot think of another singer who could capture the sound and feel of a Roses tune who isn't Ian Brown. Personally, many "technically brilliant" singers and instrumentalists leave me cold - others leave me in a state of awe - so it seems to me it all comes down to how such things interact with the individual. Out of interest, who - out of all vocalists of all time - would you suggest replaced either Ian Brown or Shaun Ryder?

Also...

Stone Roses - Waterfall (live @ The Other Side of Midnight)

... if even Tony Wilson was magnanimous to accept his deep, deep prior mishearing will you, Fubzy-Baby, be too? 8o
 
Shambles said:
Obviously I'm gonna disagree vehemently with the vocalist aspect... However, that is one of my favourite live versions - even including a number of ye olde recordings of significantly lesser technical quality but infinitely better soul. I will, naturally, return a live show which captures both decent sound, video and a reasonably peak-era performance...

The Stone Roses live in Blackpool 12.08.1989

Vocalists are always gonna be highly subjective, but I honestly cannot think of another singer who could capture the sound and feel of a Roses tune who isn't Ian Brown. Personally, many "technically brilliant" singers and instrumentalists leave me cold - others leave me in a state of awe - so it seems to me it all comes down to how such things interact with the individual. Out of interest, who - out of all vocalists of all time - would you suggest replaced either Ian Brown or Shaun Ryder?

Also...

Stone Roses - Waterfall (live @ The Other Side of Midnight)

... if even Tony Wilson was magnanimous to accept his deep, deep prior mishearing will you, Fubzy-Baby, be too? 8o
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Who I would suggest as replacements is a good question Mr. BoShambles - and one I can't really answer tbh. Obviously, The Roses and The Mondays wouldn't be the same without their respective front men, both of whom, admittedly, had a certain stage presence (and Ian Brown was a bit of a pretty boy, albeit with the gait of a chimpanzee). However, I can't help but feel that ultimately, they were carried by their bands. Ian Brown's vocals on that Blackpool gig you linked were frankly fuckin awful, and here's another example:

I am The Resurrection https://youtu.be/2BfnXX7EvhM

How to murder one of their best tracks. It's a relief when he finally shuts the fuck up and lets the real musicians do their thang...

Brownie just couldn't cut it live. He sounded ok on the first studio album, but when 'The Second Coming' finally came, even the producer couldn't make him compete with the sheer driven rock the rest of the band were putting out.

Same with Ryder. Ok in the studio mix, but fuckin wank live. I saw Black Grape in 1995 and he just shouted tunelessly through the whole gig, which totally undermined the quality grooves from the rest of the band.

It's not that I think all vocalists should be pitch perfect and totally polished, I've just been listening to Joy Division's 'Unknown Pleasures' again - one of my favourite albums:

https://youtu.be/ncJ8FCvCofw

and no-one can say Ian Curtis was a good singer...
 
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Mickey Finn with Shabba & Fearless from the 2001 Drum & Bass awards @ The Sanctuary Music Arena, Milton Keynes (rip)
 
steewith2ees said:
Mickey Finn with Shabba & Fearless from the 2001 Drum & Bass awards @ The Sanctuary Music Arena, Milton Keynes (rip)
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Old Skool Mickey "pussyclart" Finn with BAssman was the best in drum & bass, kids these days don't know about those old tapes. I was playing Mickey Finn & Mc Bassman Amazon 95 last night, lighter arise & gun finger salute <3

Mickey Finn & Mc Bassman Amazon 95 Gangster Jungle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKJoR6JgMJs
 
Wicked - did you used to go? I live in Wolves and used to go to Amazon, Quest and Pandemonium an awful lot.
 
steewith2ees said:
Wicked - did you used to go? I live in Wolves and used to go to Amazon, Quest and Pandemonium an awful lot.
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Quest, Hysteria etc (The Darkhouse days were too dark for me I'll admit)

Dr. S. Gachet B2B Swan E from an unknown event was one of the first times I ever truly fell in love with Jungle, must have been 95/96 & this track still gives me the chills to this day. When my step brother got married a few months back in Cornwall I was playing this & one of his mates asked me who it was & when it came out, the look on his face when I told him how old the track was made me laugh.

Dead Dred - Dred Bass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj7EO2uVfDQ
 
Costello. What a name. I've been listening g to the fall more than I ever did in a life time and know why I didn't start sooner... It's all so good. Welcome to the Birmingham school of business school https://youtu.be/WQreH2QZ_zc and I agree, Ian brown is a dreadful singer. I saw them once in 88 or 89 at Birmingham Irish centre. It was amazing, I don't remember his bad singing coz I was too tuned to the music. Then I saw them last year, the year before at the ethiad. Seriously bad singing ringing round a football stadium. Like dreadful. Stadium gigs a daft concept.
 
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^ Nice.
First heard that song in the movie 'Donnie Darko' (about a 6ft time travelling bunny rabbit who forecasts that the world is coming to an end).
Really good film with a soundtrack/score that meshes perfectly with the imagery.

There was a director's cut released a few years later where The Killing Moon scene had been changed to an INXS song and it just wasn't the same.
 
Kaden_Nite said:
^ Nice.
First heard that song in the movie 'Donnie Darko' (about a 6ft time travelling bunny rabbit who forecasts that the world is coming to an end).
Really good film with a soundtrack/score that meshes perfectly with the imagery.

There was a director's cut released a few years later where The Killing Moon scene had been changed to an INXS song and it just wasn't the same.
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Donnie Darko was an awesome film. I'd forgotten that 'The Killing Moon' was featured in it, but to replace it with INXS is fuckin sacrilege...
 
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