The 2018 Trump Presidency thread

[alasdairm]

Why can't people just keep these negative opinions about our President to themselves?

in the u.s. it's not simply a citizen's right to question our leaders - it's our responsibility.

what it might have been like if hillary had been elected is completely irrelevant. trump was elected and he is, in my opinion, a disgrace to the office.

alasdair

 

[JessFR]

It reminds me a little of what Britney Spears said about President Bush in an interview 6 months after the invasion of Iraq.

"Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision he makes and should just support that, you know, and be faithful in what happens."

But then this was right after talking about kissing Madonna and right before explaining she prefers Pepsi over Coca Cola. So, it probably wasn't exactly meant to be a hard hitting in depth political discussion.

 

[cduggles]

^^ haha on Britney Spears.

Is anyone buying that the shutdown is the Dems fault?

It's hysterical that the Republicans used up all their simple majority votes to fail to repeal the American Care Act and pass that wretched tax bill. Oops.

The only reason McConnell wouldn't give up filibuster power is because he's been around long enough to know that Senate control flips.

Trump doesn't understand anything beyond the short game, lurching from bankruptcy to bankruptcy. Good thing for him Russian money laundering is profitable. Or not.

 

[JessFR]

I'm sure someone buys it. You can get a lot of people to buy anything.

I don't though. I find this whole thing a joke.

 

[tathra]

Why can't people just keep these negative opinions about our President to themselves?

because that would be unamerican. dissent and protest are patriotic, and ofc theres this gem of a quote:

The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else.

"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149
May 7, 1918

 

[spacejunk]

I think that if you test positive for certain drugs or show up in the ER with an OD or are obese (like 33% of Americans, myself being right on the border technically speaking).

Sounds like a pretty shady way to use medical records and personal information to me.

What medical benefit is there in charging people higher insurance premiums judged on "lifestyle" factors?
Where do we draw the line when it comes to reckless behaviour?

I mean - people who are seriously into sports often require medical treatments which they wouldn't have needed if they'd made different choices.

Who gets to judge which groups of people cop the stigma?

I mean, we've got fatties and druggies - who next? And more importantly, why?


Why on earth anyone would argue in favour of major corporations having more influence on important their life, i don't understand.

Trump doesn't understand anything beyond the short game, lurching from bankruptcy to bankruptcy. Good thing for him Russian money laundering is profitable. Or not.

Profitable short game, thus far.
However, I suspect that the team uniform for the long game is stripey pyjamas.

 

[nuttynutskin]

I hope this idiot gets assassinated. Not saying I condone it, just hoping.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

If no one ever assassinated Obama, there's a zero percent chance of it happening to Trump. Just sayin'.

I remember the day Obama was elected, my friends and I at school were all placing bets on how long it would take for a white extremist to kill him. How wrong we were lol. And how vulgar my 15 year old self was

 

[LucidSDreamr]

...don't underestimate the extremism of liberals, for example we recently had that guy try to assasinate many republican congressman, unfortunately he both failed in his attempt and the incident was completely forgotten

 

[tathra]

Remember that porn star trump banged? He wasn't with her to commit adultery, but to spread the gospel bahahahahaha

An excerpt

“It is preposterous to assert that a virtuous believer like Mr. Trump would cheat on his beautiful wife so callously, and while their child was only months old,” a solemn Bakker said into the camera as colorful balloons provided a backdrop for some reason. “He was so concerned with the eternal state of Miss Daniels’ soul that he scheduled some alone time with just the two of them, so he could share with her how Jesus Christ had changed his life and how He could also save her from her sins.”

So much lol

 

[spacejunk]

^ said one snakeoil salesman to another

 

[LucidSDreamr]

Remember that porn star trump banged? He wasn't with her to commit adultery, but to spread the gospel bahahahahaha

An excerpt


So much lol

The televangelist ended his broadcast by wagering that there were probably “many, many more” sex-industry workers like Daniels who could tell a similarly inspiring story about President Trump.

well they where are they and why are women only saying they were sexual assuaalted or paid for sex?


with the shit christians actually believe in, beliving that trump was trying to convert this porn star to christianity is not a stretch whatsoever

 

[cduggles]

...don't underestimate the extremism of liberals, for example we recently had that guy try to assasinate many republican congressman, unfortunately he both failed in his attempt and the incident was completely forgotten.

Scalise was the guy who got shot and is also the majority Republican House whip.

This happened after the House passed Repeal & Replace the American Care Act. The shooter allegedly had a list of Republican Congressional Representatives.

A couple of other incidents got even less publicity.

One guy delivered a threat personally to a Congressional Representative's office that stated he would kill him if he took away his family's health insurance.

A woman ran a Congressman off the road and assaulted him in his car and was yelling about losing health insurance.

Apparently, Americans notice and care when you take away their health insurance. I guess that's the red line?

(Yes I will dig up links if anyone wants. You will owe me in some vague, undefined way. )

 

[LucidSDreamr]

...I didn't here about those.

There was a lady a few years ago that attempted to drive into the whitehouse or capital I think it was through the gates...she was shot by police. Not sure why she did it but I'm guessing she was mad at them.

Ppl will get mad if you take away their insurance...but yet vote for candidates they know will take it away just because they bash Muslims and Mexicans. Personally I wouldn't feel sorry for them if they lost their insurance theyade thier bed they should sleep in it

 

[tathra]

the most prominent success of the Affordable Care Act is making people realize, "holy shit, having some kinda healthcare plan is a good idea; whoda thunked it?"; next gotta get people to understand that health insurance is an objectively terrible foundation for a healthcare system to be built on. medical bankruptcies have been driven to an all time low, from their previous position as the #1 cause of americans bankruptcies.

 

[consumer]

Obamacare is in flames by removing the individual mandate.

When you're forced to buy auto insurance you don't pay the same for a Hyundai as you would a Lamborghini, the same should apply to health insurance.

It eroded the freedom of the country, it's not fair to force healthy young citizens to pay the bills of people of people that neglect their health.

He kept the preexisting conditions and the coverage of young adults via their parent's insurance, that's pretty huge.

The fact that it didn't get repealed all together shows how profitable healthcare has become, at the same time to pull out completely would give no time for the system to adjust and would put people at risk due to closures of hospitals nationwide.

Not everyone who has poor health related to lifestyle choices. Some are dealt a shit deck of cards. They should not be punished.

I am so glad i live in a county with universal healthcare, state of the art hospitals, subsidised medications, various programs to get free or largely subsidised care for mental health, physio etc. The main thing lacking is dental care. There are some programs that give free dental for low income earners but that was brutally cut back by the conservatives a few years ago despite dental health leading to a number of chronic illness which ends up costing the public more. Companies making profit from healthcare ie insurance is just removing large chunks of money from the total pool of funds available for healthcare. It makes no sense. Thats why America has the highest healthcare delivery costs in the western world. Your system is an absolute shambles. You have the option here for private insurance, it helps with dental sure and definitely helps if you need elective surgery as the waiting time in the public system is fairly long due to once again the conservatives cutting funding. But the bottom line is here if you get sick, have a chronic illness,rely on medications you are not out of pocket to any great expense. Every other country in the the developed world has universal healthcare. I have no idea why Americans are so against it when your system leads to higher delivery costs, much higher medication costs and access to treatment is not available to everyone equally. It actually helps your economy in many ways to have universal care. Less worker time off, early detection of illness preventing the development of chronic illness which is a huge drain on the economy. Its a lot cheaper to treat a person for a minor health issue than let it become chronic. Universal just makes more sense economically, socially and morally.

 

[consumer]

Remember that porn star trump banged? He wasn't with her to commit adultery, but to spread the gospel bahahahahaha

An excerpt


So much lol

omg. These people are beyond deluded

 

[spacejunk]

Not everyone who has poor health related to lifestyle choices. Some are dealt a shit deck of cards. They should not be punished.

I am so glad i live in a county with universal healthcare, state of the art hospitals, subsidised medications, various programs to get free or largely subsidised care for mental health, physio etc. The main thing lacking is dental care. There are some programs that give free dental for low income earners but that was brutally cut back by the conservatives a few years ago despite dental health leading to a number of chronic illness which ends up costing the public more. Companies making profit from healthcare ie insurance is just removing large chunks of money from the total pool of funds available for healthcare. It makes no sense. Thats why America has the highest healthcare delivery costs in the western world. Your system is an absolute shambles. You have the option here for private insurance, it helps with dental sure and definitely helps if you need elective surgery as the waiting time in the public system is fairly long due to once again the conservatives cutting funding. But the bottom line is here if you get sick, have a chronic illness,rely on medications you are not out of pocket to any great expense. Every other country in the the developed world has universal healthcare. I have no idea why Americans are so against it when your system leads to higher delivery costs, much higher medication costs and access to treatment is not available to everyone equally. It actually helps your economy in many ways to have universal care. Less worker time off, early detection of illness preventing the development of chronic illness which is a huge drain on the economy. Its a lot cheaper to treat a person for a minor health issue than let it become chronic. Universal just makes more sense economically, socially and morally.

Top post, i thoroughly agree.

 

[cduggles]

The interesting part with Trump and the porn star is they skipped the denial phase and went straight for some serious bs.

After Roy Moore, nothing would surprise me from the so-called evangelical community.

Does anyone know if Trump has tweeted a denial that he cheated on his wife right after she gave birth to his son? How...Trump.

I'm admittedly on Melania watch. She clearly hates being First Lady. It just got a lot harder.

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Unfortunately, universal health care is not particularly politically popular in the United States. I know it's because of the influence of some very wealthy lobbying groups, but it's also because people aren't really aware of the healthcare system at a certain level.

For example, some people confuse health insurance (payer) with clinicians (providers).

It's a huge problem.

 

[alasdairm]

just our president 'working' really hard:

sigh.

that picture is staged and stupid but it doesn't creep me out as much as this one, in which he looks like a waxwork of himself:

alasdair