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2017 Trump Presidency Thread

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Have you looked at a 10 year chart of the S&P or Dow? You wouldve made just as much under nearly all of Obamas term in office as you are now. The stock market is probably the least affected by presidential politics of any part of the economy. You are just grasping at anything for a victory.
 
He can just do things whenever he feels like it and doesnt have to argue it through parliament or whatever yeah?


He hasnt had to tell anyone the drinking water is going to be polluted?


Whats the use then in the Repiblican party then? Or the democrats?

Just get 2 randoms who have literally no political experience every 4 years and just keep reversing the previous overlords ideas.
 
He can just do things whenever he feels like it and doesnt have to argue it through parliament or whatever yeah?


He hasnt had to tell anyone the drinking water is going to be polluted?


Whats the use then in the Repiblican party then? Or the democrats?

Just get 2 randoms who have literally no political experience every 4 years and just keep reversing the previous overlords ideas.

This looks like it went through Congress first, Zeph.
 
Yeah because the Senate needs 60/100 votes of which the Republicans only have 52 or 53. There are ways around this though.
 
not much discussion of the flynn deal.

is this still a nothingburger? flynn admitted to lying to the fbi about his contact with the russians and claims - a claim to which he is apparently willing to testify - that trump personally directed him to make contact with the russians during the campaign.

manafort...
papadopoulos...
flynn...

there is absolutely nothing here? i think things just got a lot worse for trump...

alasdair
 
I hope Trump faces some sort of formal judgement at some point during his presidency, or after for the things he has done wrong.
 
Do they have nursing home prisons?
I hope not, i want to see trump do hard time.

There will be no plea deal for trump :D
 
The best part is Obama approved the meeting b/t Flynn and Russia/china/ and a few others. He's worked for obama far longer than he worked for trump. Russia collision was fake news made up as cover for the DNC who didn't want to answer for sabotaging one of their candidates and running one of the worst candidates in history. What's amazing to me is Obama used the fake debunked pee pee dossier to issue a FISA warrant that unmasked Flynn and many others under the direction of Susan rice. These "findings" may be poison fruit in which will have to be discarded anyway. Maybe mueller is a man of integrity and will go across party lines to take down the deep state criminals.
 
The funny thing about trump internalising this belief that he can operate with impunity is that his administration is plagued by leaks that will not stop.

He can't stop his people talking to the press. No loyalty.

Whereas Mueller's working in a running a hermitic operation here.
What does that tell you?


My opinion? The crooked ones are going down.
 
cobb immediately issued a statement trying to distance the administration from flynn. well he admitted to lying to the fbi while he was the national security advisor under trump. nice try :)

alasdair
 
Why are you so optimistic all the time SJ?

Trump is surrounded by disposable scapegoats.

He wont go to jail for being incompetent.
 
lol I'd be lying if I said I didnt take pleasure is yalls transparent glee about these findings. The trump Russia conspiracy theory is like the msm's pizza gate. The desire for it to be true supersedes all rationale.

Fuckin' a! I take great pleasure in fascists take a spill.

I seem to recall law enforcement laughing "pizzagate" off as moronic fantasy/manipulation.

I'm looking forward to seeing what insane bullshit you lot use to spin trump's eventual incarceration. The line you're trying to maintain here is thoroughly unsustainable and totally ridiculous, but it is amusing to watch.

Why are you so optimistic all the time SJ?

Trump is surrounded by disposable scapegoats.

He wont go to jail for being incompetent.



Trump is surrounded by cowardly sycophants who will snitch on him when the time comes.

The "true believers" are the fools sucked in by the racist scapegoating bullshit.
Trump's "people" know he's an erratic dotard.

I said "when the time comes", but that time is already upon us - they're already rolling over. Like dogs. Woof woof! :)
 
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Hows the growth of wages going?


Whats the minimum wage?

Is there a minimum wage per industry set by the govt?

If so has it increased in proportion to the CPI?

The man has only been in office one year but...........

Overall wage growth has increased along with our GDP, minimum wage is for teenagers/college kids.... it's by no means supposed to be a standard of living.

The left have decided to support retail and food big businesses in NOT paying a livable wage, through their past efforts in opening borders and not enforcing immigration in exchange for a never ending potential voting base. They support victim culture and ignorance at the same time, which equates into stagnant wage growth and hordes of foreign uneducated baby makers, who's children grow up in pseudo poverty and grow up to resent American culture and establishment. They lower educational standards to put those angry kids in colleges and are basically making most modern colleges worthless. All for a potential voting base, they are betting and encouraging failure, and a further stronger dependence on the federal government.

If you're getting paid a minimum wage you're not paying taxes, in fact most adults that are paid minimum wages take more from tax payers in the form of entitlement programs and in the end get more then they pay in taxes at the end of every year.....so my advice is unless you're in high school/college, put yourself in the position to get paid a livable wage that works for you versus depending on the government and actual tax payers to subsidize your life.

That is what the American dream is, living in a FREE society making the best of what you want for you and yours, versus mobbing and stealing what others have already worked hard for.

there is absolutely nothing here? i think things just got a lot worse for trump...

alasdair

No, not really even if it is true, nothing will be done.

What is worse that Trump's campaign made contacts with Russia (of which every candidate does when seeking top office), or the fact that Bill's wife's campaign and political party paid a foreign intelligence agent to compose a dossier of disinfo that either Russia or the Ukraine created to directly influence the election?

Which Obama's admin had tax payers money and federal investigators time wasted in the process as if it was actual fact versus fiction....smfh

It was the biggest bluff in recent political history.
 
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