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What is the most addictive substance?

Erikmen said:
Benzodiazepines withdrawals are terrible because it's like your brain suffers as much as your body- or worst. We get used to live without anxiety and in 2-3 days the feelings are overwhelming.

As for the most addictive drug we can't underestimate Meth. as it provides a great quantity of dopamine and it can make you quite functional. But IME, there's nothing worse than heroin or methadone.
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This 100% agree
 
Meth. Heroin just made me sick like a dog the two times I did it. Also ketamine/MXE was very addicting for me. I would lock myself in my room for days redosing MXE and having these almost spiritual experiences where I'd meet god and travel to North Korea and wacky shit like that. A total escapist drug. If I could, I'd love to be hooked up to a MXE IV drip bag and just be catatonic, traveling through my own mind but it felt so damaging on the brain at times. God I want to taste that stuff again so bad.
 
Benzos without a doubt due to the fact you can go on daily life without people reasling whilst feeling great.

Opiates come close but for some reason I never felt the need to do them again and again which is unlike me,
 
I enjoy opiates from time to time but I don't see the appeal of them really. I don't get super euphoric on them. Heroin makes me sicker than fuck the two times I've tried it. so I won't try that again. An oxy here and there is nice. Always was more of a stim guy, I guess. My buddy is starting to snort hydromorphone 30mgs and it's really sad to see him going downhill, stealing/gathering change and pawning off his dead brothers things for dope.
 
This is all very subjective. Opiate withdrawal is the most acute and severe. However, the symptoms are short lived and tapering is possible. Alcohol is the absolute worst to kick. All withdrawals are painful, but alcohol has acute delerium tremmens which occur 8-12 hours after your last drink, but the changes in your brain last for weeks, months, or years, making abstinence difficult. YYMV. Being delerious from not sleeping for a week will make you suck down 10 drinks and you are right back where you started. All drugs suck.

EDIT. Let me add nicotine was the easiest to kick after smoking for like 15 years. I just put it down one day. Granted I tried to stop a few times before. I'm not trying to disclaim anyone's experience.
 
Again, that's s great thing. Perhaps you could not use Oxy and be even luckier!!
 
ObieWan said:
This is all very subjective. Opiate withdrawal is the most acute and severe. However, the symptoms are short lived and tapering is possible. Alcohol is the absolute worst to kick. .
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agreed. 100%, alcohol withdrawal (severe dt style) makes all the rest look dumb, that being said I have never experienced an extremely severe benzo habit.
 
I've had issues with alcohol in the past but don't drink nearly as much these days as it always leads to problems with me. Thankfully I never reached the point where I'd get the shakes if I didn't have a drink in hand.. also have w/d off benzos and for some reason I got lucky and both times were a cake walk (clonazepam and etizolam, separate times)
 
I once got some crazy benzo in place of alprazolam. I took it for months and tried tapering and when I stopped it took me 3 days to go into benzo withdrawal. This is what began my alcohol escapade. I drank a pint tonight and would love to drink another. With alcohol you are sick when you drink it and sick when you don't.
 
To be more clear ive been a speed freak since i was prescribed addy at 13 (didnt know it at the time like with any drug at the start, didnt realize my dependence until i was taken off at 16 because my psychiatrist thought my smoking weed would cause seizures for some reason). When i tried mdpv, which is the first non prescribed drug besides synthetic mj, I had no idea what i was getting into. I was a 17 yr old pothead prescribed adderall, naive to addiction ( didnt admit to myself about my adderall addiction until i was 18 because denial is easy when youre prescribed something for legitimate reasons) and mdpv took my soul even months after i couldnt get it i still chased that feeling because i felt empty inside (still do at times but thats my bipolar ive come to realize.. took me a while to believe i was bipolar as well but diff story off topic sorry).

Between age 17-19 i tried every class of drug. Literally everything (and to the extreme might i add. first time i took xanax i did 4 bars with no tolerance. First opiate i did was a roxy 30 and i snorted 2 within an hour.. most other drugs went the same way to the extreme) opiates, benzos, meth, crack (obviosly tried coke first, still love cocaine but im a tweaker/borderline alcoholic and cocaines high price and short duration is the main reason im not a regular coke user), otc highs like dxm, and diphenhydramine in doses to cause full blown delerium (did 600 mg my first time trying to 'trip' off benadryl).

Anyway my main point was mdpv was my gateway into full blown addiction. I havent been sober more than a few days (and the few small jail stints ive done. dont count those though i had no choice) since I was 17. I have an extremely addictive personality and i thank god that I stopped doing opiates when i did ( i was using blues ,or percs if i couldnt find 30s ,every day for a few week period and somehow my best friend who was a intravenous heroin addict got through to me by telling me how his use started off the same and within a year he was shooting dope). I still will do opiates whenever the oppurtunity presents itself though i dont seek them out. Mental w/d is hard as it is. I couldnt imagine the crippling physical w/d along with it. Though if i dont get a hold on my drinking ill kniow what it feels like sooner or later. Ive already reprogrammed my brain to automatically reach for a drink at the slightest hiccup in life.

Anyway mdpv stole my soul and ive been an addict ever since. Mainly uppers but as you can see ill do whatever is around if i cant tweak it up. Alcohol is my first choice when i cant get drugs right away and alcohol is also there when im doing any drug. I dont even like drinking that much tbh but the liquid comfort continues whispering to me even if i dont want to indulge.



I know this post was a rant but yeah the full back story on how mdpv really screwed my brain.
 
I've quit booze benders that left me hallucinating in a hospital, a three-week-straight cocaine bender, right now a ridiculously light comedown from an eight-month-straight meth habit, even quit coffee, and I still have a fucking wad of nicotine gum in my mouth. That one I just can't let go.
 
Yeah ive never considered giving up nicotine. im sure i would fail miserably if i did try. I got bigger fish to fry though.. ill regret that later im sure but i dont see the point in giving up nicotine when i can barely control my drinking or binging.
 
Throwdown said:
Benzos without a doubt due to the fact you can go on daily life without people reasling whilst feeling great.

Opiates come close but for some reason I never felt the need to do them again and again which is unlike me,
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After reading through a lot of posts i completely forgot Nicotine and this is my one true vice.

I recently moved to Scandinavia and here they have a nicotine product called 'snus'. I smoked for 10 years and oh my god this stuff is much more addictive. For those who don't know its a tine bad filled with tabacco (looks like a tea bag but much small). But as you don't have to go outside t smoke, it doesn't smell and it's very socially acceptable here you end up having one constantly in. Much better than breathing tar down our lungs though.
 
i did a stint w/the snus! by the end i was chewing two at once, chewing while I slept... it started making my gums super 'loose' (shudder). Had to stop
 
Definitely cocaine.was hooked on that shit for 2 years doing it every single day,now im in debt my nasal cavity ist fucked up and i still have depression every single day 2 months after quitting that shit.Coke is so fk moreish it doesnt matter if you have half a gram,a gram,2 grams or 5 grams,you will do it till its gone sometimes 3 nights no sleep as i got labtested 80%+ shit which knocks you on your ass because its so potent.I still dream from it almost every single night.
Stay away from that shit if you have problems with weaker drugs,it will ruin sour life.I did things because of cocaine im ashamed of,stole from my friends,lied so many times
 
Must have been one hell of a bender. What were u drinking whiskey for 3 days straight? Took me 6 months to become dependant.
 
Scrofula said:
I've quit booze benders that left me hallucinating in a hospital, a three-week-straight cocaine bender, right now a ridiculously light comedown from an eight-month-straight meth habit, even quit coffee, and I still have a fucking wad of nicotine gum in my mouth. That one I just can't let go.
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What were u drinking whiskey for 3 days straight? Must have been one heck of a bender. Took me 6 Mon to be dependant.
 
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