friend loopy on mdma

[the blue punisher]

basically i have been takin mdma for a few months every weekend. i would drop 1 pill everyfriday, the pill would be punishers, or high quality pills that are at the top end of 210-250mg. me and my friends were stupid and abused the drug abit which i recognised so had a 5 week break so i could regain serotonin. me and my 2 friends can now safely take mdma without been uncontrolable and not able to control our thoughts etc and behaviour, gurning etc. however we have one friend who almost seems drug crazed when he takes 1 pill, for example he will seem like hes loosing his mind, for example its like his brain is in control, i watch him roll his eyes and then hell wake up and start been agressive towards us, he becomes extremely paranoid and he just desrcibes fucked up things that are happening to him. me and my friends have become worried because its like hes a complete diffrent person crazed by drugs. the way he looks and acts is a toxic person of his true personality. the reason i wrote this post is because im worried for his sanity because of the things he describes and he will do anything to get more high than he is even though he will be hillucinating, eyes rolling and just in general someone possesed by drugs, its more like hes taken heroin. the first time we took with him he was loving and bubbly but he always no matter what has the mindset of having more its like hes chasing a high that i just dont seem to get. i have no clue what to do because i want to carry on because i feel i am responsable with my two other friends but i just want to know what the fuck is happening to him because gettin angry every 2 minutes because someone talked to another friend is not something a sane person would do. he also does things like talk about hillucinations which is not something id say is bad but no matter the situation it leads to him either been extremely confused or agetated, to been angry and thinking everyone is against him. i just want to know what is happening to him because me and my friends can no longer drop with him because its almost like he turns into a addict the second he takes drugs. my friend usually takes half of a pill and me and my other friends a full always. it started when we decided to see what the fuss was about with mixing ket and pills so we did. he had half a pill and 8 keys of ket. i did 7 keys of ket and a fat line plus a punisher/pill. i was sane and able to have normal thoughts not rolling my eyes but did hillucinate and have some weird experiences. my friend on the other hand spent 90 percent of the time on the floor rolling his eyes and went into a ket hole. ever since then when he takes mdma he turns into a drug crazed, alternate personality and i dont know why he cant be like me and my other two friends who take mdma with me, we talk and have a nice night and able to function normally. we did it without him before and we had no worries and it was the best pill iv ever bad even though it was my first ever half which is half my normal dose. however my drug crazed friend is also has extreme memory loss. he will ask for a bong fall asleep for 30 seconds or whatever he does when he closes his eyes and then wake up not having any clue what he said before and if you tell him the truth of what happend he gets angry and upset, its just hard to express over a forum how much someone can change and become so distant from normal thinking and sanity.

 

[Tranced]

If your friend is becoming agitated/aggressive/paranoid and "thinking everybody is against him", then you need to sit down and explain to him, as a friend and in a considerate manner, that this is an issue for both you, your other friends, and himself. The last thing that he wants is to start getting paranoid in every day situations, and/or entering a state of psychosis. When people start becoming paranoid then it's a clear cut sign that they really need to lay off the drugs. Psychosis is a real risk for drug users and needs to be nipped in the bud before it sprouts into something dark and dangerous... especially if the person in question has a tendency to become aggressive. Also, aggression should not have to be tolerated between friends.

I'd say that you need to have a discussion with your friend and explain your feelings, and point out that he's acting in a paranoid manner, which isn't good at all; paranoia tends to escalate.

my friend on the other hand spent 90 percent of the time on the floor rolling his eyes and went into a ket hole. ever since then when he takes mdma he turns into a drug crazed, alternate personality and i dont know why he cant be like me and my other two friends who take mdma with me, we talk and have a nice night and able to function normally. we did it without him before and we had no worries and it was the best pill iv ever bad even though it was my first ever half which is half my normal dose. however my drug crazed friend is also has extreme memory loss. he will ask for a bong fall asleep for 30 seconds or whatever he does when he closes his eyes and then wake up not having any clue what he said before and if you tell him the truth of what happend he gets angry and upset, its just hard to express over a forum how much someone can change and become so distant from normal thinking and sanity.

It is important to consider that MDMA effects everybody differently, and that some of the effects you are describing here are actually a normal part of the MDMA experience. You can't expect somebody to be able to function 'normally' whilst on a powerful empathogen like MDMA, just because you can. Personally MDMA floors me, even at lower doses relative to what my friends can take; some of my friends are really good at keeping it together, but that just isn't how it works for me (and others). It is possible that there is some kind of metabolic quirk which leads to some people metabolising MDMA differently to others, creating a noticeably more messy/hallucinogenic experience.

Didn't you say that your friend takes half what you do? It sounds to me like he is powerfully effected by MDMA, and is even trying to compensate for it by taking less.

Either way, paranoia is certainly not normal, and like I say, needs to be addressed before things get out of hand. Drugs aren't for everyone; just try to be considerate and understanding whilst explaining your concerns to him. It's a tough thing to hear, and you don't want to add further fuel to any paranoia. It is also worth considering that he may well be picking up your vibes towards him.

 

[Wiserthanearlier]

Anyone getting unexpected and unpleasant results from any drug use should stop using that drug immediately. It cant be helpful or good to continue to try.

These descriptions you write are well passed normal, in fact... very far out and your friend should cease every drug for few weeks or months at least.
Then if they must use, keep away from poly drug use to monitor the reactions carefully.

Best of luck, haste would be wise in terms of some kind of abstinence as best as possible.

 

[the blue punisher]

ill take this into consideration, i apreciate it, im just worried for my friend because hes the only person iv seen act this way. thanks

 

[the blue punisher]

me and my friends have had to stop our use of the drugs for the better of my friend, because it is very worrying to have read the truth. thanks for all the help.