(4-AcO-MALT/25 mg) - First Time - Promising Sensory Pleasures

[Kaleida]

This was my first experience with 4-AcO-MALT, and though it was light enough that I probably wouldn't have even written a report normally, I figured it was worth writing this up given that this is a brand new molecule, with to my knowledge nothing written on it yet. I won't say anything on it too serious just yet since I really know so little about it even after this experience, but will just ask due to this that anyone reading this report take everything written with a grain of salt. There is no telling how one might react to this molecule as of yet... and just because this dose wasn't really high enough for me, that doesn't mean it won't be for somebody. You have been warned.... However, for now, on to the report!

My previous experience with psychedelics includes DMT, MET, MiPT, DiPT, DALT, Psilocybe cubensis, 4-HO-MET, 4-HO-DET, 4-HO-MPT, 4-HO-EPT, 4-HO-DPT, 4-HO-MiPT, 4-HO-DiPT, 4-HO-McPT, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-AcO-MET, 4-AcO-DET, 4-AcO-DALT, 5-HO-DMT, 5-MeO-MiPT, 5-MeO-EiPT, 5-MeO-DALT, Ipomoea tricolor, Argyreia nervosa, LSD, ETH-LAD, AL-LAD, 2C-B, 2C-I, DOC, and MDMA. My most recent trip on a psychedelic was about three weeks before this on 10 mg of 5-MeO-EiPT, and for trips in general I had taken methoxetamine a few times in varying doses in the couple weeks leading up to this.

T+0:00 - 25 mg of 4-AcO-MALT was ingested orally with a drink of water, and chased with a Rice Krispies treat. Immediately afterward I started preparing a bowl of cannabis for the experience, but in the process of unclogging the only bong bowl in the apartment from last night, which also happens to belong to my currently sleeping roommate, I pushed on something the wrong way and accidentally snapped it clean in half. Shit.... Now I feel guilty as my strongest emotion to enter a quickly approaching psychedelic state with, AND I don't have a bong to smoke out of during my trip. Ah, well.... I pulled out one of my old pipes, which I haven't touched in ages and is thick with resin but will do, and loaded a bowl into it for a little bit later.

T+0:15 - About this time I noticed that my body was becoming a bit shaky while coming up on other strong tryptamines, and this is about the time it would happen particularly on those with the most similar structures to this one, so I took it as a good sign and decided to take a hot shower.

T+0:30 - I was drying off and getting dressed around this point, and I was definitely feeling it even more than I had been before getting in the shower. I wasn't quite as shaky now, but I did have a slight sense of euphoria rising and some of the typical changes in the way my body feels while coming up on psychedelics, particularly with regards to feeling both the smooth and tense areas of my body more than normal. I also had a sense of excitement that mostly played out in the shower but still left me in a heightened state, again not unlike coming up on other similar, especially more stimulating tryptamines. Finally, I was also starting to see the walls bend and move a little, along with lighter versions of the Persian rug kind of patterning I often get on these indoles making a slight appearance. However, despite all these factors combining to show me that I was clearly coming up to a significant psychedelic effect, the overall intensity still wasn't that extreme, and I was beginning to suspect that this dose may end up being on the softer end of things.

T+0:45 - I felt that my initial excited rush was officially over at this point, so I decided to put on some music and start smoking my bowl of cannabis. It was nice, though within about ten minutes I got what I wrote down in my notes as a "random purge urge", which felt basically like the purge I get on base tryptamines where there is no nausea or warning preceding the vomiting, and then after I'm done the feeling vanishes and the trip becomes even better. However, with this particular experience I didn't actually purge, just dry heave, but I did still feel better after the fact.

For the next hour, I didn't do anything at all except hang out in my room, listening to music and smoking cannabis. The trip did indeed level off at a very light place, but it was still a pretty satisfying experience for the level it was at. Music sounded good, my body felt good, and my closed eye visuals had increased to the point that, while still mainly abstract, there was quite a lot of color, movement, and repeated lines that reminded me a lot of my experiences on some other tryptamines I've had that seem visually powerful but weak at the dose I took them at, particularly 5-MeO-EiPT and MET. Overall I was really enjoying myself, but it may also be worth noting that part of this could have come from the fact that it was juxtaposed with my exploratory experiences on methoxetamine, and, recently before them, on 2'-Oxo-PCE. While these experiences had been very interesting and powerful from an objective standpoint, one of the most important lessons that they had for me personally is reminding me that I honestly just don't enjoy dissociatives other than nitrous oxide, and generally find them increasingly unpleasant the more often I take them in a short span of time, no matter how objectively interesting they are. On the other hand, I find psychedelics to be the most enjoyable types of drugs I've ever taken personally, and so even this weak effect was enough to highlight just how much I do like these sensations compared to the in many ways directly opposite sensations of dissociatives. Given this, it's possible that my perspective is different than it would be if I had just taken the psychedelic without much of a surrounding context, but with the situation being what it was, I was quite happy with the way I felt.

T+2:00 - Shortly before this point I had heard my roommate emerge from his room, so I finished off the first bowl of cannabis, loaded a second, and headed out of my room to greet him. We ended up talking a little bit in generally just a normal conversational way for us, and I told him I was on something and apologized for having broken his bong bowl, which, to make a long story short while adding some context, was also not the first thing of his I've accidentally broken in the past couple weeks, not even the first cannabis-related thing. To make it up to him, I told him I was going to buy both of us new bongs today (myself one so that I didn't have to keep using his things and risk breaking them again), but that it would have to wait until later unless he was willing to drive us both there. He considered it, but also had some around-the-apartment errands to take care of, so he just kept doing them for the moment, and I went back to listening to music for a while.

T+3:20 - At this point I turned off the music, and started heading up my leftover chicken parmesan and spaghetti from the night before. It was delicious, though it would have been anyway. By the time I finished eating, as is often the case after doing such, I felt that the psychedelic effects had largely started to diminish, though I still could feel it my body a pretty good amount, both the euphoria and the general changes in physical sensation, though as usual it would not seem unlikely to me that this was kept around so long in part with help by the cannabis high. Anyway, after I finished eating I recall feeling that I was about down for the day, and just put Netflix on in the background while thinking about things in my life.

T+5:35 - My roommate finally decided to drive us both to the head shop at this time, and we returned around T+6:00 with two beautiful new bongs, and promptly gave them each a test run. It was pretty fun, and the strong high allowed me to keep feeling good still in a psychedelic way for a bit longer than I would have otherwise, but after that point I cannot recall ever noticing anything significant in this way.

So, that's where my experience ended so far. Again, there's not much to say about it yet because I don't really have much of an idea of its character, but just wanted to get this information out there since this new molecule is floating around. So far, I would say it felt by far the most like a less potent version of 4-HO-MPT, in terms of the visual style, euphoria, headspace, speed of onset, and overall duration, but given their extreme structural similarities this really wasn't much of a surprise. The potency kind of was though, since 4-HO-MPT is highly active at 25 mg for me and possibly more impressive than any other 4-substituted tryptamine at that dose, but it is what it is, and I'll gladly take a higher dose next time to try to get fuller effects. I have a good opportunity to trip alone in a big house coming up a couple weeks, so I'm pretty sure I'm going to take 50 mg and try to see what this one is really all about.

But, until then, please stay safe my fellow travelers and experimenters!

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[TheAppleCore]

Thanks for being the first to crack into and report on this very intriguing new tryptamine! From what little I've read about DALT and 4-AcO-DALT, I get the sense that one of the highlights of the N-allyl substitution is the potential for entactogen-esque bodily euphoria, so I find it noteworthy that you make multiple notes of body-centric effects, and in fact it appears that bodily sensations largely constituted both your first alerts and the tail end of the trip, although maybe that's typical for you on 4-substituted tryptamines. It sounds like the trip hinted at the possibility for a great visual experience at higher doses, too, although I suppose that remains to be seen. I can certainly understand how the juxtaposition with some disappointing dissociative trips would increase your appreciation of a fairly modest psychedelic trip, but regardless, I'm eagerly anticipating the results of your 50 mg trial.

 

[Bigazznugz]

Looks promising please keep us posted. Have you tried n-n malt yet btw?

 

[Kaleida]

Thanks for being the first to crack into and report on this very intriguing new tryptamine! From what little I've read about DALT and 4-AcO-DALT, I get the sense that one of the highlights of the N-allyl substitution is the potential for entactogen-esque bodily euphoria, so I find it noteworthy that you make multiple notes of body-centric effects, and in fact it appears that bodily sensations largely constituted both your first alerts and the tail end of the trip, although maybe that's typical for you on 4-substituted tryptamines. It sounds like the trip hinted at the possibility for a great visual experience at higher doses, too, although I suppose that remains to be seen. I can certainly understand how the juxtaposition with some disappointing dissociative trips would increase your appreciation of a fairly modest psychedelic trip, but regardless, I'm eagerly anticipating the results of your 50 mg trial.

No problem, glad to contribute as always.

It actually is very normal for me to experience these body-centric effects as both the first alerts and tail ends of my 4-substituted tryptamine experiences, the overall body trip of this 4-AcO-MALT I thought was pretty similar to most of the others in its class that I had used. It's possible that it will feel a bit more empathogenic than the others at a higher dose, but it's tough to say at this point.... I did feel that 4-AcO-DALT was a slightly better MDMA substitute for my own personal desires than most other 4-substituted tryptamines I've tried though, so you may be on to something; the only other one I've really felt that way about was 4-HO-MiPT, which I would say was the most empathogenic for me so far. I would actually say that they're almost all very physical experiences for me though, just in a safe and positive way.... I've actually been realizing more and more lately that this is part of what makes them my favorite indoles, they feel more selective in this way for me than the others and it really allows me to explore the tactile trip as much as anything else, which is one of my favorite things to do. I usually look for that shakiness at the beginning as a sign that I'm on the right track, and I'm usually lucky to keep feeling that body buzz for at least a couple hours after the hallucinogenic effects wear off.

Yeah, I'm particularly interested to see what will happen to the visual experience at 50 mg, I could think of at least a couple different ways it could likely go based on my experiences with molecules that have caused similar visuals before. Just have to wait a couple weeks to find out.... Patience. :D

Looks promising please keep us posted. Have you tried n-n malt yet btw?

Definitely will do! And not yet, but I will have some soon.

 

[Xorkoth]

Interesting, I can't keep up with your trying of new tryptamines! That's cool, I'm glad someone is testing them all out and providing descriptive, informative, and well-written reports. I remember reading some comments from people about 5-MeO-MALT that made it sound really interesting, whereas I found the reports about 5-MeO-DALT to be unappealing. It makes sense that replacing one of the allyls with a methyl would make them quite different drugs. I'm really curious to hear about a larger dose, and about n,n-MALT.

 

[Kaleida]

Haha, yeah, I do bust through them pretty quickly. I'm honestly almost out of new ones though, and probably won't be getting any more for a while (if there were even really more to get...). Right now all I have left of tryptamines that I haven't tried are MPT, EPT, DPT, and MALT. After I get through them my reports will probably become more about trying to convey the higher dose effects of some of the ones I prefer the most.... For now I've just been trying to gain some understanding of all these molecules first, so that I can best decide which ones actually are the most worthy of having those deeper explorations prioritized highly for me. And of course, just to get the information on some of these out there too! I'm very happy that others are benefiting from it as well, and thank you for your kind words about my writing, I do try to make my reports as relatable and comprehensive as possible.

Yeah, I would definitely agree that 5-MeO-MALT sounded much, MUCH more interesting than 5-MeO-DALT, though sadly I was only ever able to get a hold of the latter. The methyl certainly does seem to make a difference though, with all things.... I honestly think that something about the way the classic indoles bind to the receptor must depend crucially on that methyl being there, because I find all methyl tryptamine research chemicals I've tried to share this strongly classical feeling, particularly in the styles of visuals and euphoric headspace, whereas it is present but severely reduced in all those I've tried that have an ethyl as their smallest substitution, and I've so far found it to be completely absent in all of them that did not have either a methyl or an ethyl. That's part of why I've been reducing my interests more to methyl tryptamines lately too, and why these MALTs seem particularly interesting to me now, especially with how similar the allyl is to the propyl which I love so much in combination with the methyl.... The base MALT will surely be quite interesting regardless of how it turns out, I may even try it next before moving on to the propyls just out of excitement. But, not before my 50 mg 4-AcO-MALT trip which should now be just a couple days away. :D

 

[Volsam]

Thank you for pioneering the obscure, Kaleida! Your TR's are always very thorough, looking forward to hear about your higher dose trial!

On unrelated note, I wonder what would be your opinion on EPT as I recently started experimenting with it...8)

 

[Kaleida]

Happy to help, Volsam, and thanks for the compliment! :D The higher dose actually went pretty well if you ask me, and I'll be posting that report momentarily!

How are you feeling about the EPT so far? I do have some so it will be coming up soon. Actually, the only psychedelics that I have now that I still have left to try are MPT, EPT, DPT, and MALT, though there are also a couple others I still haven't actually gotten any real effects on any need to dose higher with too, like DALT.