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Hi everyone, I'm very optimistic and excited to be a part of this and am hoping to find some solace in everyone's advice and suggestions. To keep the initial post short and sweet I'll lay out my situation.

My lady and I have noticed that this demon has been slowly eating away at our lives, our attitudes and our relationship. We are desperate to quit and it's been a battle we face everyday.

We only do usually a point or two a day shared amongst the both of us, sometimes it would get heavy to five points. Lately it seems what we have been getting has been some low grade stuff which sucked but makes me optimistic that since its low quality that maybe the detox won't be so bad.

My question is this.

We have three strips 8/2 mg of suboxone and one oz of red bent capsule form Kratom. We are hoping that we can successfully recover and quit with a combination of these two things. I know not to take them together, but what I am wondering is should we start with subs and move on to kratom after its run out or vice versa?

Could we take kratom to get ourselves to the 36 hour mark and start to take the suboxone then after sparingly taking it and finishing what we have switch back to kratom to finish it off?

I was going to cut the strips into quarters and try to start with just 2 to 4 mg of sub the first day then taper down. And once that's gone take kratom to finish and hopefully come out on top and back to normal.

Basically in what way would you take these two to finally quit?

Thanks everyone in advance and blessings to you all that help people like me. Sometimes the words of a stranger can mean the world. So thank you all and to all of you actively fighting this heart stay strong and one day you will be back to yourselves.

God bless
 
I use suboxone

I doubt you'd have to wait 36. You're better off using COWS instead of actual time.

Having said that, because you had so little suboxone, the longer you can hold out the better I would say. I think I would personally hold out as long as possible then use the subs, 2mg or 4 at the most split into smaller doses throughtout the day on the first day and taper down from there...I think you'd still find some discomfort after such a short taper so maybe save the Kratom for after.

My guess is there will still be an element of discomfort with the small amount of meds you have but they should take the edge off if you can sit through it.

Good luck with it.
 
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I used suboxone for long term maintenance but have relapsed on heroin over the last few months, now daily.

I doubt you'd have to wait 36 hours before starting the subs after Herojn. I normally have a day a week I have to use subs and sometimes I can get away with as little as 12 hours - but that's not a recommendation, just my experience. You're better off using COWS instead of actual time.

Having said that, because you had so little suboxone, the longer you can hold out the better I would say. I think I would personally hold out as long as possible then use the subs, 2mg or 4 at the most split into smaller doses throughtout the day on the first day and taper down from there...I think you'd still find some discomfort after such a short taper so maybe save the Kratom for after.

My guess is there will still be an element of discomfort with the small amount of meds you have but they should take the edge off if you can sit through it.

Good luck with it.
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Alright. Technically speaking since I'm sharing with my lady we each only have a strip and a half.

But I'll take your advice about waiting as long as possible before taking any due to the short supply I have of it.

Just to be clear though I shouldn't take any kratom? Our last dose was at roughly 8pm tonight and that was like three hits each of hopefully our last bag. We haven't nothing in the house as of right now. Should I not take kratom in the morning? Or can I take kratom tomorrow and keep taking it accordingly until I haven't had any for roughly two days then start taking small amounts of the sub?

By the way thank you for the reply. I was afraid this would sit stagnant and I would have to wing it
 
Best of luck with it. It must be hard doing it together but also at least you both want to and can support each other.

Kratom I only know about from what I've read on here as its nowhere around here so hopefully someone else can answer that better but from what I've read over the years it's very helpful for detox and beyond. How long would the amount you have last? If its plenty then maybe sparingly before the subs if you really need to, otherwise I would save it for after. Hopefully detox won't be too bad if the H quality is bad and you have a couple of days of subs up your sleeves.

I don't know about smoking or snorting H as I've only ever had it IV but H is H and detox is detox.

Keep us updated and best of luck. I'm changing from subs to methadone next week
 
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