Late opiate withdrawl

[Britt_bratt]

So I'm new to blue light, but definitely not new to the drug world..
This is not my first opiate withdrawl, dealt with that devil too many times before.
...But this time is a lot different than any other withdrawl I've ever expierenced before and was wondering if anyone else has had the same withdrawl experience. So I was hooked on dilaudid starting January 2017 after being clean for 4 years from a hardcore oxy/fentynal addiction (400mg ox per day and 100mcg fentynal per day, came off cold turkey..thinking about those withdrawls gives me goose bumps) so anyways back to the dilauded use, was going about 4 8mg dillis a day and come end of March I detoxed cold turkey and felt like complete shit for a week then the wd subsided and stupid me decided I could have some fun again 14 days after detox and put it down again. Wrong. Was doing about 4 8mg dilauded a day then got a link on the 80mg ox again and my use switched to doing about 2-4 80mg ox per day (snorting) so here's my question. I stoped using everything Monday June 26 at 3am because I obviously want to get clean AGAIN. but what's confusing me is that on Tuesday I started feeling like shit, rls, uncomfortable all the shit that goes along with withdrawls( used weed and some xanax to help relax me) But today I feel fine.. rls pretty much gone. Body temp somewhat normal. Decent amount of energy.. all I have used today was loperamide and Advil. Now my worry is will my withdrawls hit me later and be complete hell or have I just boycotted withdrawls altogether other then feeling uncomfortable for one day? Has any one else experienced this before? If so what am I in for the next few days to come or am I back to my normal opiate free self already?!

 

[PoisonDurban]

Its possible the worst of the physical part of w/d has passed, I remember in some rehabs I went to, when me and my roommates were detoxing together and a few of them said day three is the worst, some said day two. It is true that a hydrated, healthy addict will get through w/d quicker than a dehydrated addict that doesn't consume as many nutrients, or in a lot of cases neglect them completely, eating whatever they can when they're hungry enough.

Your ROA was most likely eating or insufflation, correct me if I am wrong.

A lot of withdrawal is mental, there's a big difference in W/D with somebody who wants to be clean for a loved one or parents; and somebody that wants it for themselves. You've quit before and know what it's like sober, so prepare yourself for the intense cravings and temptations, they will come. It's much easier said than done but the day will end, cravings kick hard but it's amazing how you can get over them quickly, it's just once your minds set that you're going to score, it's usually time. I try to remind myself the day will end soon, and i'll be happy I didn't in the morning, unfortunately I cave in a lot of the time, and I can't begin to tell you how disappointing it is in the morning, but I am sure you're well aware.

 

[Britt_bratt]

Thanks for your reply! I was thinking the same too. Was hydrated and well nourished before starting this detox and also have only been using a few months around this time, unlike before when I was abusing high doses of oxy and fent for years, withdrawling from thatbwas no effing joke!!! I think the worst is over now hopefully but yes every day is a battle to say no I'm not gona go pick up. Cause I sure as hell would love to but I know it's going to bring me right where I was and worse. I have caved so many times and the guilt from it is not worth it let alone letting everyone down and going into more and more debt. But thanks for your feedback!!

 

[Lama]

Got a question for you Britt_bratt, was the Dilo's snorted?
and best of luck with all of this, I soo can relate...

 

[Britt_bratt]

Got a question for you Britt_bratt, was the Dilo's snorted?
and best of luck with all of this, I soo can relate...

Yes they were snorted.. Which sucked but was all I could find at the time and I told myself I would never use needles and I know that's the best way to do the ds. But then found a link on my main drug of choice, oxycontin, and ever wasted my $$$ on the dills again cause I was in oxy heaven. Well I'm in day 5 now and it was deff a mild withdrawl this time around but still sucked nonetheless. Been using kratom for the past 4 days to help and that stuff is magic. But now I would like to stop before I become dependent on that.. do you have any personal experience using kratom for opiate withdrawls? If so do they prolong the withdrawl or if I stop using it after about 5 days will I be ok and experience no further wd? Thanks for your help!!!

 

[Lama]

Yes they were snorted.. Which sucked but was all I could find at the time and I told myself I would never use needles and I know that's the best way to do the ds. But then found a link on my main drug of choice, oxycontin, and ever wasted my $$$ on the dills again cause I was in oxy heaven. Well I'm in day 5 now and it was deff a mild withdrawl this time around but still sucked nonetheless. Been using kratom for the past 4 days to help and that stuff is magic. But now I would like to stop before I become dependent on that.. do you have any personal experience using kratom for opiate withdrawls? If so do they prolong the withdrawl or if I stop using it after about 5 days will I be ok and experience no further wd? Thanks for your help!!!

Thanks for the reply Britt, No I don't have exprience with Kratom, I was actually looking at it as a way to stop, wich one are you using? I think I might order some. Like you i think I need the help. Then is there another addiction with kratom? is it as severe as opiates? I'd like to know.

 

[Britt_bratt]

Thanks for the reply Britt, No I don't have exprience with Kratom, I was actually looking at it as a way to stop, wich one are you using? I think I might order some. Like you i think I need the help. Then is there another addiction with kratom? is it as severe as opiates? I'd like to know.

We all need help.. opiates are no joke and stupid me I don't learn I've had to go there wds tooo many time before hoping this is the last, but kratom has been simply AMAZING, literally takes almost all the wd away!! I've been using "white" strain of kratom for day time and usually take a spoonful (mix with water and shoot itnback fast and chase with choco milk cause it tastes like absolute swamp water lol) and " maeng da" for evening. One spoon full is about 4-5grams and I find that's keeps me good for the daytime and do the same dose with the other strain in the evening.. my plan is to stop using the kratom by tomorrow. It says you can use it up to 14 days without becoming dependent on it and then yes, you can experience withdrawls very similar to opiates also, just less intense but hopefully if I stop by tmro (5 days of use, roughly 10grams total daily) I can stop and not experience and further wd. I will keep you posted with that so you know how I feel and then you can go from there!! We all know how shitty those withdrawls are

 

[Lama]

Wow TY Britt, I'm gonna order some ASAP, I was reading on the red bali strain for the relaxation effects. So you're telling me just kratom no opiates and you're feeling ok?!! I am impressed and almost jealous. No actually I am very happy for you, I relate totally...

I guess I'm gonna order some white strain as well for the daytime.
I'm leaving on a trip next Friday. On my return 2 weeks from now I'm gonna start a kratom cure cycle and hope for the best.
Thank you again

 

[Erikmen]

I have heard from a lot of people that Kratom helps the w/d but only to a certain point. Maybe with this one is different. Definitely worth trying. Better than start using methadone or suboxone.

A lot of withdrawal is mental, there's a big difference in W/D with somebody who wants to be clean for a loved one or parents; and somebody that wants it for themselves. You've quit before and know what it's like sober, so prepare yourself for the intense cravings and temptations, they will come. It's much easier said than done but the day will end, cravings kick hard but it's amazing how you can get over them quickly, it's just once your minds set that you're going to score, it's usually time. I try to remind myself the day will end soon, and i'll be happy I didn't in the morning, unfortunately I cave in a lot of the time, and I can't begin to tell you how disappointing it is in the morning, but I am sure you're well aware.

So true. The last time I lived on 'a moment at a time' for almost two weeks.

I have been lucky with few withdrawals in the past. For some reason some of them only lasted for a couple of day and the only problem I had was not being able to sleep.

 

[Britt_bratt]

Wow TY Britt, I'm gonna order some ASAP, I was reading on the red bali strain for the relaxation effects. So you're telling me just kratom no opiates and you're feeling ok?!! I am impressed and almost jealous. No actually I am very happy for you, I relate totally...

I guess I'm gonna order some white strain as well for the daytime.
I'm leaving on a trip next Friday. On my return 2 weeks from now I'm gonna start a kratom cure cycle and hope for the best.
Thank you again

No problem!! Love helping people cause I loce when ppl help me Lolll. But yes get the Red strain if you can!! The only reason I didn't get red was because my local smoke shop (I live in Ontario Canada where it's legal to buy here) didn't have any in stock because that's the one most people prefer. So get the red and white will be good for the day to give you the energy boost you need to get things done. .. depending on how much/how long you've been using opiates you might need to increase dose of kratom significantly until you feel better but start of low and wait 30 mins and see how you feel from there jealous your going on a trip!!! Lol

 

[Britt_bratt]

I have heard from a lot of people that Kratom helps the w/d but only to a certain point. Maybe with this one is different. Definitely worth trying. Better than start using methadone or suboxone.



So true. The last time I lived on 'a moment at a time' for almost two weeks.

I have been lucky with few withdrawals in the past. For some reason some of them only lasted for a couple of day and the only problem I had was not being able to sleep.

ahh same I'd say the worst part of this wd is the restlessness while trying to sleep. Sucks not sleeping blah

 

[Lama]

No problem!! Love helping people cause I loce when ppl help me Lolll. But yes get the Red strain if you can!! The only reason I didn't get red was because my local smoke shop (I live in Ontario Canada where it's legal to buy here) didn't have any in stock because that's the one most people prefer. So get the red and white will be good for the day to give you the energy boost you need to get things done. .. depending on how much/how long you've been using opiates you might need to increase dose of kratom significantly until you feel better but start of low and wait 30 mins and see how you feel from there jealous your going on a trip!!! Lol

You actually made me feel good, hope is alive in me. I guess I was not expecting jealousy lool Thank you so much!
As for the K, I found some on the net, but I'll pay a visit to my shop, its close and might be simpler if they do carry it.

 

[Britt_bratt]

You actually made me feel good, hope is alive in me. I guess I was not expecting jealousy lool Thank you so much!
As for the K, I found some on the net, but I'll pay a visit to my shop, its close and might be simpler if they do carry it.

Good!! Yes try your shop first. You can get a better deal usually and don't have to pay shipping and all that bs. Good luck!!