swilow
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Shit, what was I thinking??? 
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2017 Trump Presidency Thread
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consumer
Bluelighter
You are clearly part of the deep state manipulating the forum to help achieve the aims of your tall grey alien overlords and to appease the shape shifting lizards.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
Meanwhile, they still want to supply guns to terrorists
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We've always had a heavily armed populace, doesn't make sense that gun massacres would increase so sharply immediately after barry gets elected.What do you think these figures mean? Are you implying that the Obama government played a role???
But no, its got nothing to do with the heavily armed populace, right?
Did you just assume my gender?
consumer
Bluelighter
Oh sorry. I will call you Ms Ryan from now on.
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as much as I dislike the subject, a quick fact check will show that there were 33 mass shootings under president obama and 19 under president gw bush. this increase could be caused by any number of reasons, including mental health, escalated access to firearms due to president bush's association with the NRA during his term, politically disgruntled and racist gun owners, variation in the nature of foreign conflicts and domestic opinions, etc. i've read the source of your figures - a conspiracy-theorist driven, anti-science, non-factual internet site. so it turns out that you are the sheeple baaaaaaDon't you think it's a little weird that so many gun massacres occurred during obama's presidency? 162 shootings in which 4 or more people were killed (not including perp) That is more than double the last 4 presidents combined, a 700% increase
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zephyr
Ex-Bluelighter
Australia only had one mass murder rampage before the govt cracked down on gun ownership, risking pissing off the public to actually help prevent future incidents.
John Howard was a bit of a dickhead but that was one thing he got right. I dont think anyone actually believes the US will do the same so I dont see why anyone bothers keeping those stats given nothing has actually been done anout it.
John Howard was a bit of a dickhead but that was one thing he got right. I dont think anyone actually believes the US will do the same so I dont see why anyone bothers keeping those stats given nothing has actually been done anout it.
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zephyr
Ex-Bluelighter
I said Australia, not New Zealand. 
swilow
Bluelight Crew
Are they separate countries? No way!
consumer
Bluelighter
Separated by a creek i believe..Are they separate countries? No way!
consumer
Bluelighter
Just read an article in the Washington post about Sessions appointing a rabid anti drug warrior to a senior DoJ position. He wants to totally ramp up the drug war. Kiss goodbye to legal weed.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
Depends what your definition of mass shooting is
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i’ll make it simple for you.
mass shootings under Obama
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[TD]Cascade Mall shooting[/TD]
[TD]2016[/TD]
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[TD]Baton Rouge police shooting[/TD]
[TD]2016[/TD]
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[TD]Dallas police shooting[/TD]
[TD]2016[/TD]
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[TD]Orlando nightclub massacre[/TD]
[TD]2016[/TD]
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[TD]Excel Industries mass shooting[/TD]
[TD]2016[/TD]
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[TD]Kalamazoo shooting spree[/TD]
[TD]2016[/TD]
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[TD]San Bernardino mass shooting[/TD]
[TD]2015[/TD]
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[TD]Planned Parenthood clinic[/TD]
[TD]2015[/TD]
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[TD]Colorado Springs shooting rampage[/TD]
[TD]2015[/TD]
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[TD]Umpqua Community College shooting[/TD]
[TD]2015[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Chattanooga military recruitment center[/TD]
[TD]2015[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Charleston Church Shooting[/TD]
[TD]2015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Trestle Trail bridge shooting[/TD]
[TD]2015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Marysville-Pilchuck High School shooting[/TD]
[TD]2014[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Isla Vista mass murder[/TD]
[TD]2014[/TD]
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[TD]Fort Hood shooting 2[/TD]
[TD]2014[/TD]
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[TD]Alturas tribal shooting[/TD]
[TD]2014[/TD]
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[TD]Washington Navy Yard shooting[/TD]
[TD]2013[/TD]
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[TD]Hialeah apartment shooting[/TD]
[TD]2013[/TD]
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[TD]Santa Monica rampage[/TD]
[TD]2013[/TD]
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[TD]Pinewood Village Apartment shooting[/TD]
[TD]2013[/TD]
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[TD]Mohawk Valley shootings[/TD]
[TD]2013[/TD]
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[TD]Newtown school shooting[/TD]
[TD]2012[/TD]
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[TD]Accent Signage Systems shooting[/TD]
[TD]2012[/TD]
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[TD]Sikh temple shooting[/TD]
[TD]2012[/TD]
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[TD]Aurora theater shooting[/TD]
[TD]2012[/TD]
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[TD]Seattle cafe shooting[/TD]
[TD]2012[/TD]
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[TD]Oikos University killings[/TD]
[TD]2012[/TD]
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[TD]Su Jung Health Sauna shooting[/TD]
[TD]2012[/TD]
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[TD]Seal Beach shooting[/TD]
[TD]2011[/TD]
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[TD]IHOP shooting[/TD]
[TD]2011[/TD]
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[TD]Tucson shooting[/TD]
[TD]2011[/TD]
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[TD]Hartford Beer Distributor shooting[/TD]
[TD]2010[/TD]
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mass shootings under gw bush
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[TD]Coffee shop police killings[/TD]
[TD]2009[/TD]
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[TD]Fort Hood massacre[/TD]
[TD]2009[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Binghamton shootings[/TD]
[TD]2009[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Carthage nursing home shooting[/TD]
[TD]2009[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Atlantis Plastics shooting[/TD]
[TD]2008[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Northern Illinois University shooting[/TD]
[TD]2008[/TD]
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[TD]Kirkwood City Council shooting[/TD]
[TD]2008[/TD]
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[TD]Westroads Mall shooting[/TD]
[TD]2007[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Crandon shooting[/TD]
[TD]2007[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Virginia Tech massacre[/TD]
[TD]2007[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Trolley Square shooting[/TD]
[TD]2007[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Amish school shooting[/TD]
[TD]2006[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Capitol Hill massacre[/TD]
[TD]2006[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Goleta postal shootings[/TD]
[TD]2006[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Red Lake massacre[/TD]
[TD]2005[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Living Church of God shooting[/TD]
[TD]2005[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Damageplan show shooting[/TD]
[TD]2004[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Lockheed Martin shooting[/TD]
[TD]2003[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Navistar shooting[/TD]
[TD]2001[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
what’s your definition?
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
4 or more deaths not including the shooter
I'll be open to more gun control once we stop arming terrorists and funding civil wars
i'm frequently told that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. you seem to be arguing that's not true?
alasdair
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Well since the mass shootings I posted were 3 or more deaths, should there not be more than in your data? What are the other mass shootings in your case?
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
I actually just noticed that some of those shootings you list under GWB actually happened after Obama took office
you seem to want your cake and eat it.
in other news, trump - who endlessly criticized obama for traveling and the associated cost to the taxpayer - is on track to spend as much as obama did in 8 years in his first year. more lies, hypocrisy and bullshit.
alasdair
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
What's your position on how American police conduct themselves?
Not all cops shoot unarmed kids 16 times but....
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