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2017 Trump Presidency Thread

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Ryan01 said:
I was actually referring to a post made by noone1..fail again
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Maybe the democrats could stop sending people to go shoot up schools and we'd have less mass shootings? 5 of the 12 deadliest gun massacres in history took places in barry's first term.
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And the democrats organised them?
 
consumer said:
And the democrats organised them?
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Don't you think it's a little weird that so many gun massacres occurred during obama's presidency? 162 shootings in which 4 or more people were killed (not including perp)

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is more than double the last 4 presidents combined, a 700% increase

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Erikmen said:
This seems a bit old. Funny that everyone was wrong, at same time and everywhere worldwide. I seems suspicious and strange. Almost too strange!
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As far as I can tell, they screwed up on figuring out likely voters.

Polling people is easy. Figuring out that some 60 year old lady is going to vote for the first time since Nixon is a lot harder.
 
Ryan01 said:
Says the person who thinks we should accept refugees even if there's a terrorist attack every week :D

Nobody takes pollsters seriously after they all got embarrassed by the election results
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That doesn't refute my point at all. If you have two coins and a statistician tells you there is 99.9% chance that you will flip them both tails it doesn't mean they are wrong if you immediately flip them both tails.

Sure the media exaggerated in words how much of a chance Hillary had. That doesn't mean the odds where wrong.

Also approval rate polling numbers are completely different. They are the same for all presidents. If there is something funky going on it would be easy to comb the data and see people manipulating them. Go ahead and post sources; math and science instead of your "gut instinct" (cognitive bias)
 
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alasdairm said:
thanks. i can comfortably stop reading your posts now.

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He's a hairsbreadth away from claiming they where "false flags" maybe they where false flags by the gun industry to increase gun sales? Because that's all that ended up happening.
 
Ryan01 said:
Don't you think it's a little weird that so many gun massacres occurred during obama's presidency? 162 shootings in which 4 or more people were killed (not including perp)

That
is more than double the last 4 presidents combined, a 700% increase

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Quick check for Reagan:

1982: Carl Robert Brown - 8 dead, 3 injured.
1983: Wah Mee massacre - 13 dead, 1 injured.
1984: Tyrone Mitchell - 2 dead, 12 injured.
1984: Palm Sunday massacre - 10 dead, 1 injured.
1984: Abdelkrim Belachheb - 6 dead.
1984: James Hubert - 21 dead, 19 injured.
1985: Sylvia Seegrist - 3 dead, 7 injured.
1986: Patrick Sherrill - 14 dead, 6 injured.
1986: FBI Miami shootout - 2 dead, 5 injured.
1987: Laurie Dann - 1 dead, 6 injured.
1987: William Cruse - 6 dead, 14 injured.
1988: Richard Wade Farley - 7 dead, 4 injured.
1988: James William Wilson, Jr. - 2 dead, 9 injured.
1988: Michael Charles Hayes - 4 dead, 8 injured.

That's 14 so far, with a bit of googling...
 
Ryan01 said:
Don't you think it's a little weird that so many gun massacres occurred during obama's presidency? 162 shootings in which 4 or more people were killed (not including perp)

That
is more than double the last 4 presidents combined, a 700% increase

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You are seriously blaming the democrats. I am with Ali. ANYTHING you say has no value or credibility anymore.
 
Escher's Waterfall said:
Quick check for Reagan:

1982: Carl Robert Brown - 8 dead, 3 injured.
1983: Wah Mee massacre - 13 dead, 1 injured.
1984: Tyrone Mitchell - 2 dead, 12 injured.
1984: Palm Sunday massacre - 10 dead, 1 injured.
1984: Abdelkrim Belachheb - 6 dead.
1984: James Hubert - 21 dead, 19 injured.
1985: Sylvia Seegrist - 3 dead, 7 injured.
1986: Patrick Sherrill - 14 dead, 6 injured.
1986: FBI Miami shootout - 2 dead, 5 injured.
1987: Laurie Dann - 1 dead, 6 injured.
1987: William Cruse - 6 dead, 14 injured.
1988: Richard Wade Farley - 7 dead, 4 injured.
1988: James William Wilson, Jr. - 2 dead, 9 injured.
1988: Michael Charles Hayes - 4 dead, 8 injured.

That's 14 so far, with a bit of googling...
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The unofficial definition is 4 or more deaths
 
noone1 said:
He's a hairsbreadth away from claiming they where "false flags" maybe they where false flags by the gun industry to increase gun sales? Because that's all that ended up happening.
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False flags are nothing new in this country, JFK actually refused a plan to frame Cuba for shooting down a passenger jet (which was to be swapped with a drone). Few years later the gulf of tonkin incident happened.

noone1 said:
lol at the point he's at snopes is the enemy, watch him ramble about how they are biased and get paid without any proof and totally ignore sources.
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Wasn't the owner of snopes arrested on fraud charges?
 
Ryan01 said:
False flags are nothing new in this country, JFK actually refused a plan to frame Cuba for shooting down a passenger jet (which was to be swapped with a drone). Few years later the gulf of tonkin incident happened.
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That doesn't prove anything that happens that you don't like is a false flag. You have to have evidence and sources not "it doesn't feel right, too many coincidences must be a false flag!"

Wasn't the owner of snopes arrested on fraud charges?
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All I can find is some quasi horse shit about the founder being arrested for embezzlement because of a bitter divorce by the daily mail (HAHAHHAHAHAHHHA)

Which even if that is true it doesn't matter, doesn't invalidate individual articles. Infowars, Breitbart, redstate post enumerable loads of provable fake news but even that doesn't matter. Each individual claim, article, sources, etc must be proven untrue no matter the source. You can't say "washington post: fake news!" "daily stormer: fake news!" Whatever, prove the individual article is fake news with facts.
 
I told my dad the same thing as ryan01 as a joke he didn't think it was funny.

I wouldn't be surprised it is always straight to "take the guns" I think someone would have whistleblown that one though.
 
Ryan01 said:
Don't you think it's a little weird that so many gun massacres occurred during obama's presidency? 162 shootings in which 4 or more people were killed (not including perp)

That
is more than double the last 4 presidents combined, a 700% increase

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What do you think these figures mean? Are you implying that the Obama government played a role???

But no, its got nothing to do with the heavily armed populace, right? :\
 
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