am hoping for advice.. (heroin)

[chemctrl]

Hey TDS. Funny how this is the only subforum I have ever posted in... I forgot my old password so I registered a new account to ask for your help.

I've been an opiate addict going on 9 years now. For the past 4 months I've been on H, and I'm having a hard time getting off. I want to end this cycle of using bs. I'm down to 3 bags a day.

I guess the whole point of this thread is, I need some hope, and some advice. What's the best way to get over this? I have a few prescription meds (clonidine, beta blockers, etc) that I got from a friend, they're the same ones he was given in rehab. and I've got a quarter of a suboxone left. should I try to manage my own withdrawal here at home? I also have the option to go to a local detox center, they use suboxone there too for $55, free without the sub. Last time I was there I freaked out right before they checked me in and left. What the heck do I do? I don't want to be dependent on anything anymore but I can't seem to go more than 24 hours before I completely freak out and go cop. anyone have some advice?

 

[Msk00]

I would go to the detox center. I have no self control though and really struggle doing it on my own. Hopefully being down to only 3 bags will make the transition not too terrible. Good luck!

 

[johnnypotsmoker199]

Hey TDS. Funny how this is the only subforum I have ever posted in... I forgot my old password so I registered a new account to ask for your help.

I've been an opiate addict going on 9 years now. For the past 4 months I've been on H, and I'm having a hard time getting off. I want to end this cycle of using bs. I'm down to 3 bags a day.

I guess the whole point of this thread is, I need some hope, and some advice. What's the best way to get over this? I have a few prescription meds (clonidine, beta blockers, etc) that I got from a friend, they're the same ones he was given in rehab. and I've got a quarter of a suboxone left. should I try to manage my own withdrawal here at home? I also have the option to go to a local detox center, they use suboxone there too for $55, free without the sub. Last time I was there I freaked out right before they checked me in and left. What the heck do I do? I don't want to be dependent on anything anymore but I can't seem to go more than 24 hours before I completely freak out and go cop. anyone have some advice?

That depends as @Msk00 said on your self control. If you do choose to do it at home, it seems you got the proper tools to get through.

I would make sure that you delete your dealers number and delete all contact with anyone who would use/promote or text you about using. The idea would be to separate yourself completely from the friends and company you previously kept.

Through my tough times, I have always deleted the dealer then blocked anyone who may tempt me or reach out to me to go back.

The best solution would probably be to check yourself in to a clinic and do a week to get sober then followup with the same deletion of everyone from your life.

 

[KingSpence]

You can do it man, 3 days of pain and 4 days of depression. I'm on day 4 of h withdrawal and I'm physically back to normal but I can't really feel anything mentally. I withdrew from methadone 2 years ago and it took 2 weeks for the physical symptoms to subside and another 2 months of no emotions. H is easy, consider yourself lucky. Good luck

 

[chemctrl]

thanks for all the replies so far. in the spirit of honesty, I did end up doing 2 bags today. the hardest part seems to be the psychological aspect... any tips about that? it's like I'm blowing it way out of proportion in my head. but, kingspence, thank you for your insight. just a few days? makes me feel like it is possible. I'll try to keep everyone updated, if anyone is interested.

 

[chemctrl]

the worst part is knowing that prior to this, I cold turkeyed off of hydromorphone to pass a UA for work. if I would have just stayed with it...ugh. I don't have much in the way of self control. the thought of detoxing in some cold, clinical, unknown place terrifies me tbh. I think I'll set an appointment for a week from now, so at least I'm giving myself the chance to do it myself.

 

[cg9256]

i recently quit after a loong 8 month dope bender. This time I did it a little different since I knew I had the time. It took me about 36 hours to have enough energy to start scrounging my apartment for dope. I knew I'd find some even before I quit because of how reckless I've been. So when I found bags to scrape and cottons and what not I did it until I felt better, slept, woke up did the same but a little less until I basically had nothing left. So I waited as long as I could bear then took a sub. I really felt like shit that whole day too but made it and took another sub today and actually feel ok. I guess my point is, if u have the luxury of time, u can choose to take it slow and less painful. I know we all want it over as quickly as possible, but fuck it. Now since u have limited sub, I would recommend too look up on the fse for the alcohol/sub b/a thread and do it that way. Fuck it. Good luck

 

[Mike93]

The clonidine definitely helped me detox. I would also urge you to get gabapentin. It really made a difference! And to help with my anxiety during the day I took lorazepam and when you're withdrawing you obviously can't sleep so I took Xanax the first 3 or 4 nights to help me sleep. But the most important med that helped was mega dosing loperamide! If you're unfamiliar with it, it's an anti diarrhea med that is also an opiate. However it only crosses the blood brain barrier for a very short amount of time until it is kicked out. It also only affects the opiate receptors in your stomach. I took about 30 of them each day and they helped make the withdrawals bearable. If you have any questions feel free to respond to this post or PM me!

 

[Cdkman]

Depends on your roa if u are IVing I suggest the detox but any other method I would taper use the sub the day after u stop and the comfort meds after that..best of luck I'm battling with u

 

[chemctrl]

unfortunately I am IVing. do you suppose switching to a different roa for a few days would make the withdrawal easier or am I just looking for an excuse to put this off?

 

[David Wooderson]

unfortunately I am IVing. do you suppose switching to a different roa for a few days would make the withdrawal easier or am I just looking for an excuse to put this off?

Is there any possibility to get stabilized on suboxone for a bit before detox?

I attribute suboxone maintenance with my success because it ave me time to get away from that lifestyle, still had to detox off it in the end but it helped.

The longer the taper, the better chances of success IME.

Short tapers and rapid detoxes just primed me for relapse.

 

[chemctrl]

Is there any possibility to get stabilized on suboxone for a bit before detox?

I attribute suboxone maintenance with my success because it ave me time to get away from that lifestyle, still had to detox off it in the end but it helped.

The longer the taper, the better chances of success IME.

Short tapers and rapid detoxes just primed me for relapse.

The best I could do at the moment would be to purchase a few strips off the street; with no insurance and my financial situation getting to see a sub doctor would prove to be damn near impossible, and as such it's almost cheaper to just stay on the dope. I've never come off of sub, is the withdrawal as prolonged as I've heard?

 

[Mike93]

unfortunately I am IVing. do you suppose switching to a different roa for a few days would make the withdrawal easier or am I just looking for an excuse to put this off?

At this point, it would just be another excuse. Quitting ASAP is better for you and your wallet.

The best I could do at the moment would be to purchase a few strips off the street; with no insurance and my financial situation getting to see a sub doctor would prove to be damn near impossible, and as such it's almost cheaper to just stay on the dope. I've never come off of sub, is the withdrawal as prolonged as I've heard?

Sub withdrawals are supposedly longer due to the longer half life but I've heard that they are less severe than cold turkey straight off of dope. However, cold turkey allows you to get it all over with in the matter of a week in the physical sense. You could buy one 8mg strip or pill and take half one day and half the next and quit that way, but if you keep getting more of them and taking them, your body will get accustomed to them and you'll have sub withdrawals instead which will take longer. You could also keep buying subs and go on a temporary maintenance type thing, even without the doctor and correct the reasons behind your use before quitting. However, I prefer getting it done and over with ASAP. And honestly, cold turkey with the meds I listed in my other post in this thread made my withdrawals pretty bearable and I was coming off of about a 9 month habit of about 2 grams per day of dope mixed with fentanyl which was pretty damn strong. I was only snorting though, I never tried shooting.