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You've got issues. You aren't even consistent. It doesn't imply better, but we are higher (maybe I can see this, but there was never really that argument made)? You keep seeming as if you are informing me, but you're clueless. You don't seem to comprehend my post.

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*Right. The link. After I read through it, I didn't think it applied to any argument. It was still interesting, so I included it. This was why I said related, but that it is an aside (maybe sloppy).

*The hypothesis was an example of how evolution can occur. I think it's reasonable. I'm not sure why you have such an argument.
Species were naturally separated by boundaries, and the fact that we only had horseback for fast-travel. Now is kind of a different territory.

Snubbing each other? Groups do that all the time. We share with those we already share with, or those who share. It would come much more naturally to be "tribal". I am not saying we should totally give in, but we should be aware that certain behaviors will always be there, or at least for the foreseeable future.

There are things that you keep saying, as if you are trying to inform me about how evolution works, as if I have made an error that you are correcting, but I doubt you can pinpoint what you are actually making an argument with, from my exact words. Can you? I'd be happy to clarify, or maybe I need to realize I'm wrong, but you may be able to help me with that.

The only time I mentioned species in my posts, I said that they were all more or less the same species. The different groups, all the diversity of the planet, including our human "races" and ethnicities/ethnic groups, are all going through the same processing. But the distance between "human" and chimp is much greater than the distance between "Mongolian" and "Nigerian", for example. This is why I said "more or less" where I did, because species is a word, and it cannot describe to a T- it cannot be the definition and the definition does allow room to think, at least. The word "Species" means "look"- like "Spec"tate. And this could connect in meaning to "look like"- so in one very basic way, grouping species, we group things because they look like each other, in traits, and things (it gets very specific, with added requirements to make it so or not, or subspecies, or however to order). I can easily separate East Asian, and West African. We do not have quite the definition as different species, apart from each other, but there are noticeable differences. They are also not just skin-deep. And the implications of it are not just so dismissable.

Things aren't as clean, clear cut and dry like you seem to wish it would be. Yes, we are the same species, but things are very dynamic, and it isn't as easy as I'm just a racist fuck.



Would you like to have a contest? I'll list examples of where intermingling of different groups, however they were grouped (not that the metrics weren't of influence) was an issue, and you list examples where it wasn't.

Go right ahead friend but you are veering totally away from evolution and into higher thought, if you are using instincts and evolution to tribality then we must follow rape and murder are "natural" too and that must be accepted shutting your argument down.

Absolutely it is white supremacy. This is the tactic of racist, bigots, fascists today whine and cry when they get called out for their disgusting beliefs. "Oh that is why we voted for Trump, to prove that we are racist pieces of shits because you called us racists we sure showed you!"
 
I didn't call u stupid...lots of geniuses never studied science nor know anything about it. I was just saying that your understanding of a species is flawed

I understand just fine. But if you need to tell yourself that I don't...

Species has an etymology that means "look"-- literally "appearance, form, or beauty"- I am thinking outside the box a little, with the guidance of the actual word. I don't think it's an accident that the word means "appearance". And I do imagine, that given the same point in the life cycle, say, mature adult, we can estimate how closely related things are by how closely they look alike. Fuzzy, like words, for sure, but not without something to it. And generally, I'm sure the many orders/classifications of species, that they look very similar, and are very similar to their respective orders/classifications.

I understand how it is accepted to see species. I don't claim to be an expert, but I have a general understanding that got beat into me every year in Science/Biology for probably 12 years, and then what I read on my own. It's kind of hard to miss this being brought up in public education in the U.S. But I am looking at the word itself, and seeing what it means, and seeing how things are related/how they work, and building from that. With this, it seems that the human races are like "buds"/branches in a sense to the creation of new species. The same process(s) that led us to divide and diversify/separate, does lead to new species, in some instances (as long as they stay separated, which they don't always). To me it makes sense that there is ethnic conflict.
 
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Go right ahead friend but you are veering totally away from evolution and into higher thought, if you are using instincts and evolution to tribality then we must follow rape and murder are "natural" too and that must be accepted shutting your argument down.

Absolutely it is white supremacy. This is the tactic of racist, bigots, fascists today whine and cry when they get called out for their disgusting beliefs. "Oh that is why we voted for Trump, to prove that we are racist pieces of shits because you called us racists we sure showed you!"

I don't understand. Why must we say that rape and murder are natural too- and what is this a response to? I DO think that they are totally natural behaviors. If we never had to put a lid on things, we wouldn't exist, and definitely wouldn't be social. Humans contain all the violent urges that the "lower" animals do- we just have many more mechanisms to keep things controlled/more inhibition.

I'm not whining. I'm just annoyed by you (maybe whining a little, because of that). I'm getting tired of low-level thinkers drawing pictures and claiming it's what reality is.

I don't see how you can cleanly separate evolution away from "higher thought", and I don't see how a discussion of instinct (but where did I say anything about that? And again where are you going from?) and how that relates to human behaviors- how genes may be a factor here-- I don't see how there is a rule that we can't go there. Feel free to explain why, or just speak words for me. I didn't vote for Trump. I already got a warning [for] saying something mean, so I'll end this now.
 
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I don't understand. Why must we say that rape and murder are natural too- and what is this a response to? I DO think that they are totally natural behaviors. If we never had to put a lid on things, we wouldn't exist, and definitely wouldn't be social. Humans contain all the violent urges that the "lower" animals do- we just have many more mechanisms to keep things controlled/more inhibition.

I'm not whining. I'm just annoyed by you (maybe whining a little, because of that). I'm getting tired of low-level thinkers drawing pictures and claiming it's what reality is.

I don't see how you can cleanly separate evolution away from "higher thought", and I don't see how a discussion of instinct (but where did I say anything about that? And again where are you going from?) and how that relates to human behaviors- how genes may be a factor here-- I don't see how there is a rule that we can't go there. Feel free to explain why, or just speak words for me. I didn't vote for Trump. I already got a warning [for] saying something mean, so I'll end this now.

Okay I will spell it out for you: Favoring a race is on par with rape and murder, completely natural and healthy to our species. That is what you are advocate for. Of course it annoys you to be shown to be a terrible human being.
 
the one where he was like "you did have a rally"


i mean to donalds credit...he did get fifty percent of the vote
the donald tweeted: "Maybe the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN should have their own rally. It would be the biggest of them all!"

to which bernie responded - with a picture of the crowd at the inauguration next to a picture of the crowd at the women's march: "They did. It wasn't."

:)

alasdair
 
no. when a bluelighter is banned permanently, their title changes to "ex-bluelighter". droppers' title is "temporary ban" which is temporary.

alasdair
 
It's a shame some here goad other members to get a reaction and when they do react they get banned.

Shit like saying Ryan and others here are members of the kkk is just typicsl of the bullshit coments.
It's ok for them though.

Like you said though, let's move on. Mustn't talk about it.
 
You know as well as I do there's no point.


I know people here hate trump but was Hilary much better?
 
I know people here hate trump but was Hilary much better?

Its a good question which says more than enough.

Still, I think Trumps inexperience is being revealed. Its one thing to be a businessman, another to run a country as complex as the US. HRC may have been establishment and potentially evil but she understood the mechanism of government. Trump simply doesn't ans he is failing terribly as a result.

Also, his policies stink. :D
 
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