Psychedelic Feeling Memory? Weed induced flashback or nonrelated?

[greenuser8]

I recently made a thread about trip "flashbacks" I may be experiencing. I'm wondering if any of you have felt this.

I've been a daily smoker for over a year now. I had a bad trip 6 months ago, and have felt fine up until the beginning of this month.

Long story short, I smoked and took a THC capsule. The capsule kicked in 5 hours later when I was not expecting it whatsoever, the first thing I felt was out of body and telling my friend I was flashing back. It could've been the near panic which explained why I thought I was flashing back, however I was convinced it was a flashback when it was going on, cause I had no idea what hit me.

Only later did I realize the capsule could've kicked in very late.

Fast forward to not even a week ago, I was smoking, and got this same "out of body" feeling. However, I've been obsessing about it since almost (I'm OCD). My OCD has been telling me it's PTSD which did worry me.

You know how when you look at something, "you" are the thing looking out your eyes? The feeling is basically imagine staring at something. I feel like my conscience is pulled back into my mind, and the front of my eyesight is almost just a screen. That's the only feeling - no real visuals, or trippy mindsets, just that weird feeling that trips me out.

The way of looking things itself doesn't come with panic, it's just if I stay there for a few minutes I'll get pretty uncomfortable. Not so much the feeling itself, but the mindset of "why am I feeling this? it must be a scar from the bad trip" etc etc.

Regardless, because of this, I now have the feeling as a memory in my mind, and when I get really high, I think I can skew my eyes to see what I'm seeing. I can even remember it right now (when sober), and it worries me that I even can. I can't fully "feel" it sober, but I can remember very well what my eyes would be registering with the feeling.

Is this even normal? I think I have felt the feeling before, it's just now I think I have control over the feeling, or the way I'm looking at things when really high. It's almost, I now "remember" the way I saw things, and now my mind just sees things like that when very high. I need to be pretty high for it to stay for more than a few seconds.

The fear of a flashback, hence my mind placeboing me into "seeing" things the way I am when really high at brief moments.

I just want to confirm, is this probably just OCD? I've had no other bad trip problems, in fact I brushed it off as experience, yet this came back to bite me all because of that THC pill and me getting hit by a very strong high unexpectedly.

Is any of this normal? Much appreciated.

 

[pupnik]

weed definitely can give the effects - all the effects - of what are considered classic psychedelics - normally there is a bit of a sedating effect that you expect with weed, but occasionally the shock is very awakening and the person will find themselves in a very non-sedated psychedelic episode and this is very like acid or mescaline.

Separate from this, OCD or emotional fugues can induce absortive mental states, similar to meditation, or chanting where a repetition becomes established as a complex wave and the mind begins to resonate psychedelically.

both are normal to the extent that marijuana use is normal and that emotions or OCD are normal. if you can learn to manage your life through OCD and OCD through life, then it will not bother you.

 

[greenuser8]

weed definitely can give the effects - all the effects - of what are considered classic psychedelics - normally there is a bit of a sedating effect that you expect with weed, but occasionally the shock is very awakening and the person will find themselves in a very non-sedated psychedelic episode and this is very like acid or mescaline.

Separate from this, OCD or emotional fugues can induce absortive mental states, similar to meditation, or chanting where a repetition becomes established as a complex wave and the mind begins to resonate psychedelically.

both are normal to the extent that marijuana use is normal and that emotions or OCD are normal. if you can learn to manage your life through OCD and OCD through life, then it will not bother you.

Interesting, so the state was brought on by a previous trip basically, hence absorptive state? Not just a random thing while just high? I can't even feel it nowadays since my tolerance is too high. When it's lowered again, I will try and diagnose this feeling further. Was just hoping this wasn't a form of flashbacks/PTSD.

 

[Efoj]

I agree with everything pupnik wrote. Weed has a wide range of possible effects... to me, if I smoke hours or days after a psychedelic trip, so many aspects of the trip come back. With edibles it's even more so.

I guess you may call it PTSD too if you want, but I wouldn't feel such an urge to overdiagnose everything in life. Beware of big pharma's biggest dream:

"Thirty years ago, the head of Merck, one of the world's largest drug companies, told Fortune magazine that he wanted Merck to be more like chewing gum maker Wrigley's. It had long been his dream to make drugs for healthy people so that Merck could 'sell to everyone.' "

 

[greenuser8]

I agree with everything pupnik wrote. Weed has a wide range of possible effects... to me, if I smoke hours or days after a psychedelic trip, so many aspects of the trip come back. With edibles it's even more so.

I guess you may call it PTSD too if you want, but I wouldn't feel such an urge to overdiagnose everything in life. Beware of big pharma's biggest dream:

"Thirty years ago, the head of Merck, one of the world's largest drug companies, told Fortune magazine that he wanted Merck to be more like chewing gum maker Wrigley's. It had long been his dream to make drugs for healthy people so that Merck could 'sell to everyone.' "

I haven't even had trip aspects despite daily smoking after my trips. Just the new "psychedelic vision" and comprehending of the high.

This feeling was brought on by a THC pill (and I am somewhat confident I only felt what I did because it hit me unexpectedly).

And now, that feeling can be brought back by weed.

"Could" it even be PTSD like you said? The thing itself doesn't necessarily bring negative emotions - it's my questioning of "why" that makes me feel negative about it.

It does stump me though, and trips me out.

I never experienced any post trip emotions before this..And it's been 6 months feeling fine.

In fact, my tolerance is high and I can't achieve the feeling anymore, I can only imagine it. I may just tolerance break soon. But I was hoping the trip didn't negatively scar or impact my brain hence this feeling. Still have hopes it's 'just the high'.

I'm pretty dependent on weed which is why I wouldn't want this to be more than just the high - don't wanna stop smoking. My friend brought up that instead of a trip flashback, it's literally the flashback off the THC pill I had.

But IDK whether the THC gave its own feeling, or that brought something back from a trip. Regardless, it doesn't scare me out of smoking. The thought that it "could be" the evil PTSD or flashback is what essentially is triggering my OCD fear. Probably. Still not fully sure

 

[Starless]

I wouldn't worry about the state of your brain or mental health over this. I got recurring effects from trips on strong doses of cannabis long before I ever had a bad trip. This is perfectly normal and certainly not PTSD.

There is a syndrome called Hallucinogenic Persisting Perception Disorder (HPPD), that is rarely caused by psychedelic use, but I doubt you have it unless it persists for a while even when completely sober, and even HPPD will go away with time.

You shouldn't have any problems, but if you dislike this feeling, I would abstain from cannabis and other drugs for the time being, and try again in a few months if you feel like it.

 

[greenuser8]

I wouldn't worry about the state of your brain or mental health over this. I got recurring effects from trips on strong doses of cannabis long before I ever had a bad trip. This is perfectly normal and certainly not PTSD.

There is a syndrome called Hallucinogenic Persisting Perception Disorder (HPPD), that is rarely caused by psychedelic use, but I doubt you have it unless it persists for a while even when completely sober, and even HPPD will go away with time.

You shouldn't have any problems, but if you dislike this feeling, I would abstain from cannabis and other drugs for the time being, and try again in a few months if you feel like it.

I've still been smoking daily, and I somewhat realized I'm simply obsessing over the feeling - which isn't a bad feeling. I made that assurance last night while toking, I felt really good and saw how my mind was attempting to placebo me into some stress over it. It could be HPPD, but not sober. Only when really high.