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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: Firly Swolks Discussing Mitillating Tatters Fithout Wilters

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I find mescaline to be about the friendliest psychedelic. Fear and Loathing in Las vegas gave it kind of an incorrect reputation IMO, I remember I always thought of it as more hardcore than LSD or mushrooms before I started learning about it, but in fact it's wonderful, peaceful, glowing, stable, wise and loving. I can't imagine having a bad trip on it. It's also really gentle. I took 500mg of mescaline HCl and was in full control of myself, very body-aware, full of a peaceful zen feeling. I spent the time hanging out swimming amongst waterfalls and camping. It's a subtle but profound psychedelic. Much friendlier than mushrooms or LSD.

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you guys think LSD at a nhl game would be fun? thinking about it but im not sure. id be going to a home game and ive been there before so id be perfectly fine with regards to the environment i think.
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I'd be concerned about being around all those strangers. If that's the sort of thing that could make you nervous, I wouldn't do it. Plus I wouldn't want to watch sports on psychedelics but I'm not really into watching sports at all so if you are (obviously you are), then that wouldn't apply to you.
 
Oh, yeah they provide a nice glowy feeling. Personally 80mg I probably would barely feel. 160mg would be pretty threshold. I found 500mg of mescaline HCl to be pretty light overall although with pretty powerful emotional effects and the experience was wonderful.
 
I thought about starting between 100 and 200 mg, knowing that it won't be a full on trip.

Well first I have to extract some of course :)
 
For me Mescaline also felt very gentle but I am not sure if that is true in general. If you are not as sensitive as I am, try adding 100 mg to it ;) I tend to have much lower thresholds than some other people here.
 
Does this website suddenly have black accents (instead of blue) for anyone else? It's depressing, man. I don't want Blacklight. I want Bluelight!
 
Yes, it's a yearly thing in February to remember the passing of all the Bluelighters who can't be with us today.

It always makes me happy to see all you constant faces, so to speak, in PD, and to know that no one has passed on. Keep in touch PD family, we're in this together.
 
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Yes, it's a yearly thing in February to remember the passing of all the Bluelighters who can't be with us today.
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Ah, thanks. I tried searching for some explanation but I couldn't find one.

It always makes me happy to see all you constant faces, so to speak, in PD, and to know that no one has passed on.
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Me too. :) May it long continue.

Bleh... I feel weirdly alienated from the universe lately. Maybe it's because I haven't really been tripping, due to my circumstances not making for the greatest setting.
 
My setting isn't great but tripping once a week recently has oddly enough given me the context I need to truly be content with where I'm at for the time being; go figure.
 
^ I can relate to this.

For a long time, I refused to be content with my situation, because I thought I needed the anger as an engine for positive change. But now, I'm starting to think that you can only move forward in life once you learn to be at peace with wherever you are.

It's probably necessary to be at peace with even death itself, but I must admit, I can't say I've fully achieved that yet.
 
Xorkoth said:
I find mescaline to be about the friendliest psychedelic. Fear and Loathing in Las vegas gave it kind of an incorrect reputation IMO,
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I do find it very friendly yeah :) But I thought fear and loathing was spot-on with the "why does it have to be so pure". Not pure... pure, get it? ;)

Aah I thought black-out was only an anniversary for Ryan Haight's death, may he rest in peace.
 
Anyone here have any opinion on polygamy ?
For a while we had an "open" relationship with my girlfriend, and it kind of worked alright, then for a very long time we lost interest in meeting other people, and then recently I met someone I really liked and we talked about it and the three of us agreed to live this and see what happened and where it took us ...

But I don't really think it worked, or could have ever been all right. Not because of jealousy, none of us is really jealous, but I think because of time. When we had the open relationship thing going we would very occasionally meet someone, have some fun and then just forget about it. For for the past month I've been seeing this girl I really like and I think I really care about and it's just physically impossible to spend as much time as I would like to with her without neglecting my "official" relationship, so in the end I feel like I'm being unfair to everyone and I think it's time to stop this.

At the same time the fact that for the first time in six years I've found someone I like to the point of actually caring and wanting to really get close to makes me sort of confused about what's going on between me and my girl. I think is natural that with time feelings tend to get colder I guess, and I wonder if what I'm feeling right now is only so intense because of novelty. But maybe the fact that I'm open to let this kind of feeling flourish is also a sing that something has changed in my heart. I dunno. I'm kind of confused. I know for sure what I'm living right now is not a purely sexual thing, I met someone with whom I truly connect in many levels. But I still feel like my SO is the single most important thing in my life and what gives sense to many other things around her. It's been weird.


Anyway, kind of a vent but also interested in if anyone here has had or has known and loved a successful polyamorous experience? I kind of feel like it has something to do with psychedelics or maybe just with hippy culture. But I think drugs have a played a role in my wanting to deconstruct many aspects of my social programming, one of which is accepting that monogamy is the only possible way to love someone. I tried to check for myself what was like living outside such a social expectation, and for the longest time I thought it was completely possible to really really love someone and occasionally have fun with someone else you also like, but know I'm not sure, I think that really caring and loving more than someone is not really possible, or would require the involved people to all agree with each other and live together or something.
 
It depends on how exactly you mean it... but if you don't require a relationship to last forever to be 'successful' (I don't), then I know someone who's had a successful polyamorous experience. My roommate, to be specific. He was with two other guys for a pretty good amount of time and it ultimately didn't work out between all of them, but they stayed friends. I even accompanied him to the other two guys' wedding, as they did stay together in the end. So, it would indeed appear that two worked better than three for them in the end, but notably during they didn't have complaints about the number of people, and they broke up for unrelated reasons. My roommate is also now back in a two person relationship, and quite happy.

As an outside observer, my main takeaway from the whole situation was that three may be more difficult than two, but it's still workable as long as the feelings are there. Nonetheless, the appeal still comes down to each individual's preference. Like you, I care about the time I spend with people I love.... Loving two people sounds great, but if I have to spend half my time with either then I'd rather love one person and spend all my time with them. Love for one is already a satisfying amount for me, whereas there is no satisfying amount of time I can spend with someone I truly love.

About what's going on between you and your SO, I can only say so much of course and don't want to influence you to make any wrong decisions, but I will just say this time from personal experience that it's definitely possible to have romantic feelings for more than one person at a time. I would be very cautious about doubting your feelings for one person just because you also have some for someone else now, especially when those other feelings are much newer. Remember, love is just an evolutionary instinct.... It's really just a coincidence that it still often works for us on an intellectual level. It's easy to confuse the two aspects of it but extremely important to keep sight of which one is more relevant to whoever you're feeling currently attached to.

Just my two cents!
 
I'm not someone to say something doesn't fly in social unless for good reasons and this is fine, but maybe you'd just get more careful and focussed attention and insight in Sex & Relationships.. if not now then maybe after people responded here. :)

fwiw it sounds like you are thinking it through and I never considered those time limitations before like that but now that you mention it, it's ultimately like that with everything if you're somewhat busy. If you can't tone it down with the other one and keep it strictly to when you have time to spare, maybe there is quite some lust there and if not then perhaps that works or it ought to be turned into a friendship even a seriously deep platonic one. If more than that in some ways it is potentially a kind of betrayal in a way not even sex needs to be: one of an ultimate bond and commitment past all those other types.

I think polyamory is quite complex already, polygamy really seems like pushing it if everyone involved knows and the power relations are of equals. Not to mention if you're stressed for time. Reasons as above.

I can certainly imagine people agreeing to temporarily share their partner and if anything I think it takes a big person to be able to... at least very emotionally developed. However sharing your partner indefinitely is something that makes me suspicious of what it says about your own commitment. EVEN with the 'if you love someone you let them free' in mind. Because a relationship has a lot of commitment in it still, despite that lofty value, and it seems naieve and overfocused on the wise stance of polyamory to think that you can just compromise on that without any cost.

OK maybe a partner would still be okay with that and enable you despite not spending quite 'enough' time with you anymore... but how would that make either of you feel? You already acknowledged the answer to that yourself I'd say. To let a normal friendship bleed dry all you have to do is not spend enough time and energy on it anymore, it doesn't even have to be shitty in the least. That should be a lesson.

Personally I don't tend to have much of a need for things like polyamory. :)
 
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Polamory relationships are definitely something I'm interested in and would like to try. However, I've never had the chance to so I can't really comment or give any advice :\

That sounds like a tough situation though. I don't think it's necessarily clear one way or another. Honeymoon phases of relationships are a very real thing, so to compare without consideration your "official" relationship and this new one is not fair, but then again who are we to say? Maybe it is a sign. But maybe it isn't. It's a big grey area with no around it I'm afraid...
 
Kaleida said:
It's definitely possible to have romantic feelings for more than one person at a time. I would be very cautious about doubting your feelings for one person just because you also have some for someone else now, especially when those other feelings are much newer.
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Thank you, I think you are absolutely right.

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If you can't tone it down with the other one and keep it strictly to when you have time to spare, maybe there is quite some lust there and if not then perhaps that works or it ought to be turned into a friendship even a seriously deep platonic one. If more than that in some ways it is potentially a kind of betrayal in a way not even sex needs to be: one of an ultimate bond and commitment past all those other types.
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Appreciate this insight. Your last sentence is something I very much agree with.
 
Solipsis said:
I'm not someone to say something doesn't fly in social unless for good reasons and this is fine, but maybe you'd just get more careful and focussed attention and insight in Sex & Relationships.. if not now then maybe after people responded here. :)

fwiw it sounds like you are thinking it through and I never considered those time limitations before like that but now that you mention it, it's ultimately like that with everything if you're somewhat busy. If you can't tone it down with the other one and keep it strictly to when you have time to spare, maybe there is quite some lust there and if not then perhaps that works or it ought to be turned into a friendship even a seriously deep platonic one. If more than that in some ways it is potentially a kind of betrayal in a way not even sex needs to be: one of an ultimate bond and commitment past all those other types.

I think polyamory is quite complex already, polygamy really seems like pushing it if everyone involved knows and the power relations are of equals. Not to mention if you're stressed for time. Reasons as above.

I can certainly imagine people agreeing to temporarily share their partner and if anything I think it takes a big person to be able to... at least very emotionally developed. However sharing your partner indefinitely is something that makes me suspicious of what it says about your own commitment. EVEN with the 'if you love someone you let them free' in mind. Because a relationship has a lot of commitment in it still, despite that lofty value, and it seems naieve and overfocused on the wise stance of polyamory to think that you can just compromise on that without any cost.

OK maybe a partner would still be okay with that and enable you despite not spending quite 'enough' time with you anymore... but how would that make either of you feel? You already acknowledged the answer to that yourself I'd say. To let a normal friendship bleed dry all you have to do is not spend enough time and energy on it anymore, it doesn't even have to be shitty in the least. That should be a lesson.

Personally I don't tend to have much of a need for things like polyamory. :)
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I agree with the last paraphrase, I don't really want things like polyamory. I'm more happy even alone.

I'm in a phase where my partner wants polyamory, and I don't. So until it clears out, I don't see another way than to be friends. I don't think my worldview can be changed when it comes to this, so it's up to her.
 
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