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Hi All,

Returning back to a little recreational taking after 10 years off...

Started out in the 90's, quite some time ago. Anyways after growing up and doing all the adult things, I now find myself on the deep web.

Ordered a sample batch of Pink Rolex (230mg).

Now I know this is a high does and wont be so silly as not to test first as to make sure they are what they say they are... but I am thinking of taking just a 1/4 at first.

Thoughts on will the 1/4 still be as strong? or would I have to take the full pill to = 230mg

Not looking to blow my head off with my return, just want it nice and easy...

What do you think all?

Regards

Morg.
 
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Hi Morg, welcome to Bluelight! I'm going to move this to MDMA/Empathogenics for you.
 
Hi there. I'd recommend doing half instead of a quarter. Half should be approximately 110-120mg which should be a good dose for easing back into it.
 
Hi Morg

The first thing you should do, which is not something we had readily available in the 90's, is to order a test kit. Buy at least 3 reagents not just marquis. Plenty of info on here.

Rolex are a generic press widely copied. Check in pillreports and ecstasydata to see if you can identify (bearing in mind you could still have a copy and its best to test). Pink Rolex have been indentified in the past as containing PMMA, always be aware that dealers do hold back old dodgy pills to remerge after a few months and even years.

As always start low you can always take more. If you don't get any signs off 1/2 pill after 2 hrs don't take anymore - likely they aren't as advertised strength which means you then know your source is bunk.

Next time maybe look for a pill which is easily identified as a new press. Likely a Euro. It's worth paying more.

Welcome back and enjoy. Let us know what your opinion and thoughts are after such a break. Always interesting to hear people's comparison 90s to now.
 
Hi Guys...

Ok still waiting on delivery. Been on the deep web and my initial purchase was rejected and money returned due to me being new on the market place and having no rating.

So found a seller who would engage with me as I have no raring.... I am now waiting on 5 x Rock and Roll 220mg (green oblong looking pills) cant find anything on pill report, so when I have them I'll take a couple of pics and post.

EZ test kit came today :-) Now its a case of waiting on the post.

I probably will start with 1/4, let that kick in, ride it for 15-20 mins, see where its going then drop the other 1/4. As long as I enjoy that then I'll drop the other half in one...

Wish me luck guys :-)

vw001morg
 
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If dosage of pill is accurate a fat half for an experienced roller of the 90's (era of highest quality pressed pills) should great but if not trying to hard a standard half outta be in bound to give proper results.

The stating mg. Of your pill seems perfect size for a start up dose followed by redose to equal a full blown night off real rolling.

Compared to me before years ago before "molly" became overated when 2 legit pills would equal full blown night of proper rolling.

2 pills of legit rather decent quality mdma pills one pill to start and second pill to extend would have been a full night of serious roll.
The pills would average 100 to 150mg of proper no bull real top shelf mdma.

So your stated mg of 1 of what you got is enough for one person to go hard or for 2 people to have a standard experience.

Statements based on my 11 years of experience of rolling as an enthusiast in florida.

Ive rolled on serious levels sometimes i had bullshit but mostly ive had textbook life changing md.
 
Hi Turnupboss...

Well the late 90's were good indeed. Started out with my first ever... A capsule called Dennis the menace phase 5 (bloody strong at the time) I would say prob about 120-140mg. From that first "clean"experience it snowballed. I didn't have a clue but put anything and everything i could get hold of (MDMA, Speed, MDEA, Coke) down my throat and up my nose, but nothing harder. Never liked the feeling of weed plus I dont smoke so it never held my interest.

Even did it on my wedding night with my wife... To be fair once she got into it we ended up hitting it hard for a good 5 years, spent so much money, lost countless jobs because of the state we were constantly in.

We did everything from doves, Mitsubishi Tubo's, Double doves, VW, Ferraris, Rolex, Crowns, Adam and Eves, Banana Splits, Smiley Faces... you name it we probably did it. In the end it broke the marriage as we realised we couldn't keep doing this as we would just egg each other on. The one good thing is that we only got from one person in all that time. A friend who was religious about testing, even back then.

As we went int to the "naughties" though the pills became worse and worse, having to throw 4-8 down your head a night because they we just so weak. We would always try 1/2 see what the affects were like and if we were happy, we would then double drop and wait for a hell of a role :-)

So a couple of years ago I went to a Psy Trance rave in N.London with a m8. His brother supplied some MDMA crystal and it was dirty, but not in a good way. I took a week off work because I was constantly throwing up after trusting tan unknown supplier. Not a good experience and put me off it completely.

But as with all things you enjoy, it creeps back into your conscience and you start to wonder.

So the deep web has been coming up lately, and I am fairly OK on a PC. So having a VPN, Tor and GPG to hide behind (hopefully) the deed has been done.

Two testing kits have turned up so far. One to show the strength of the MDMA, the 2nd to make sure it is MDMA and not PMA or any other old shit !!

Good communication from the supplier, and because they are a fairly new shop on the market place wanting to make a good impact, for rating him with 5 stars, he/they has put 2 free pills in the package.

So now... its just a waiting game. Tick Tock, Tick Tock.

Cant even do them when they arrive as I have to schedule time off work mid week to allow them to be out of my system completely by the Monday. Not that I am going to do all 7 LOL. I think I'll probably get through two pills (1/2 at a time, except the initial take when it will only be a 1/4 as described above) and then when I know what to expect the 2nd half, which will take me through the night, and then do 1/2 and 1/2 the 2nd night, giving me the weekend to get my self in recovery and fit for work :-)

All a bit of a mission but looking forward to it :-)

VW001Morg

P.S. Oh and for those who dont really know yet (because your younger) but hammering it when you are younger DOES lead to depression (luckily I got a hold of it early) and you DO suffer from memory loss later in life...
 
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Wow, I would strongly, strongly advise you to stay away from rolexes. If there is any particular stamp of pills that comes to mind as having a notoriously bad reputation it's the rolex stamp. Just look here what a huge amount of bad reports those pills have had. They have appeared in the media numerous times and have killed scores of people. So unless you plan on sending them to a lab (I wouldn't even take them after having tested with a testkit) I would really reconsider taking those. This is not something you should take chances with, really. The rolex stamp has such a bad reputation because they often contain PMA or PMMA. If you don't know that drug, look it up. It's nickname is 'doctor death'. Sorry if I'm coming off here as scare-mongering but in this case I don't care

By the way, though not unheard of, 230mg is an extremely high dose and only pretty rarely found in a pill. Sounds like dealer talk, another red flag
 
http://www.pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=35938

http://www.pillreports.net/index.php?page=search_reports&sent=1&name=Rock&logo=&colour=

Your looking in the wrong place maybe?

Know as peace and love rock and roll?

They are good pills but have been out awhile. So caution advised. You will need a very accurate weigh scale if your going to try the MDMA strength test and TBH I've done it before and it's not very accurate.

EZ tests are ok but next time I'd recommend safe4test. Good price on 6 reagents plus they are sensible about how much reagent a "standard" recreational user will need - reagents do have quite short shelf life and not easy Chems to get rid of. Always horrified when people say they just throw them down the drain or bin.

Be aware you are only doing a presumptive test IE to see if you MAY have MDMA. Just because a Marquis goes black doesn't mean it's not been added too. That's why multi reagent tests are advised as this reduces down the possibles - but the only actually I know I've got pure as the driven snow is sending for GC MS analysis. Possible to do but quite laborious and in some cases at the cost of 8 pills (street price) unless you live in Holland.

Similar story to you brother from the 90's. I go half on a 220mg to start. But I bet you find your sweet spot at 2/3. Don't do a full one until you get a handle on strength enjoy and let us know how things went.

@blue bull tbh honest mate if you check out independent test results it ain't just dealer talk. I've had pills come back at 243 mg when posted at 200mg. Biggest issue is actually spreads. One pill being lower then the next being higher. IE red defqons have been tested numerous times and ranged from 180 - 240 mg.
 
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Blue Bull: Thank you for the advice Sir. I will indeed stay away from the Rolex.

Itsgoneundertheboa: Thank you for the reply and the link. Nice to have contact from a "raver" from my generation who has experienced similar.

The Peace, Love Rock & Roll (green) are exactly what I have ordered. I will indeed go for the safe4test next time, although I will have quite a few to get through.

Will defo report back on the experience and let everyone knows how it goes, but it may be mid Feb or end of Feb before I get the chance. Who am I kidding, I'll need to make any bloody excuse in work to get the time off. Defo within two weeks LOL.

vw001morg.
 
Just quickly Itsgoneundertheboa. On the safe4test what is the kit you use as there are 3 available.

Regards

VW001morg
 
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@blue bull tbh honest mate if you check out independent test results it ain't just dealer talk. I've had pills come back at 243 mg when posted at 200mg. Biggest issue is actually spreads. One pill being lower then the next being higher. IE red defqons have been tested numerous times and ranged from 180 - 240 mg.
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That may be true, but the difference is that those red defqons were usually advertised as 200mg. That would mean, taking the same spread, that those rolexes would be 210-270mg which I think is highly unlikely. They aren't exactly known as being on the same level as those high dosed Dutch 'superpills', on the contrary. I think if a pill came out that contained such a high MDMA dose, certainly with a rolex stamp, we would know about it. But yeah you are right that such high doses are sometimes found in pills, though they still are pretty rare if you look at all the different pills out there
 
Test kit 3 6 reagent. More the merrier TBH. Make sure you follow instruction and any questions don't hesitate to ask although the guys at safe4test are very responsive on email and have a lot of info on the site.

@ blue bull from the Dec results out of Zurich out of 13 submissions / tests 6 were found to be over 200 mg (one double entry on flugels) so call it 5. 39%?!

Oh and a Rolex in there as well - pure and over 200 mg. although totally with you on never trusting that as a pill. Bit like apples and supermans too; always avoid just cos they got such a bad press (excuse the pun).
 
Thanks guy.

Your advise is really helps. I am tempted to just go ahead and get the safe4test, or do you think the EZ will be ok?

Good to see the willingness of others to help. :-)
 
We can't decide it's your choice. 90s we d of been none the wiser and boshed em. Older and wiser and we care a little more for our health, plus we don't necessarily have the guinea pig friends around so we can watch them first to take. Harsh to say but yes there was always someone who will take more risk than others. Maybe it used to be me and you.

Marquis can be fooled you can only make presumption but at least your doing that.

Even with safe4test full reagent it's not assured. But you reduce the possibility. I've done multiple tests on many pills and only once threw one away on test but then thrown away others after test was good and found they just don't deliver like they should.

Nothing's changed brother we still live in a world where we have no choice but to trust in something and someone we don't know and take the risk. Even when the govt has the ability to protect us by doing the right thing and making this drug at least safe on dose and quality.
 
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We can't decide it's your choice. 90s we d of been none the wiser and boshed em. Older and wiser and we care a little more for our health, plus we don't necessarily have the guinea pig friends around so we can watch them first to take. Harsh to say but yes there was always someone who will take more risk than others. Maybe it used to be me and you.

Marquis can be fooled you can only make presumption but at least your doing that.

Even with safe4test full reagent it's not assured. But you reduce the possibility. I've done multiple tests on many pills and only once threw one away on test but then thrown away others after test was good and found they just don't deliver like they should.

Nothing's changed brother we still live in a world where we have no choice but to trust in something and someone we don't know and take the risk. Even when the govt has the ability to protect us by doing the right thing and making this drug at least safe on dose and quality.
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You can also check here

http://mindzone.info/pillen-finder/#pill=

One of those rock and roll just tested. One thing to look for weights dimensions. Sometimes copies will look same but screw up here.
 
Hey Itsgoneundertheboa.

How you doing brother. Yeah the government have the power to stop all this unnecessary poisoning of our good people and an opportunity to make a shit load of TAX.

If I dont get the readings I want as in MDMA, I wont chance taking them, they will be binned. I am hoping though they will be as the vendor described.

Been looking on the net for some uplifting house/trance and something about 140bpm, do like a bit of hard house/techno... in preparation for my night of hedonism LOL ;-)

vw001morg
 
Since you are already buy online just get the powder/crystals and then weigh out whatever dose you consider to be perfect.

And yes doses per pill have risen over the years, some of this is from competition between suppliers (since you can't really put in better mdma if you already have mdma), some of this is due to market demands (people have been taking it for years and their tolerances have grown) and some of this is because a lot of pills back then weren't just mdma but mdma/mda and maybe some stimulant so the dose needed was lower.
 
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