Xorkoth
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Awesome man, congrats! Opiates are pure evil for those with addiction issues. So no more subs either? That's so great.
Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread: 3-MeO 4 Leaf Clover
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Awesome man, congrats! Opiates are pure evil for those with addiction issues. So no more subs either? That's so great.
axnow
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it's time for me to take another disso break. feel like I post this every time I dose. hate to throw shit away but don't think I have the self control. hey people out there who had to put it down for a while, what works for you? I get so sad but this is not sustainable.
Only think that works with me is having two different stashes: One for my dissos, one for everything else. I can have got access to everything that is not a disso and control myself pretty well, but with my disso stash I can't. So since three months or so, I gave my disso stash to my flatmate, and asked him to hide it far away from home, and only give me a monthly dose. It's working well until now
mindseye888
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I have been playing with this gem for a while now and thought i should post up some of my experiences.
I have had a lot of wierd experiences with higher end dosing and feel i should first warn people that my intention isnt to glamourise this substance.
i rececently recieved some white, almost fine ground salt like consitency 3-meo-pcp.
at first i thought this stuff was fairly predictable in effects but i swear almost everytime ive played around i have hit a different high.
i have had the reasonably dissociated 15-20mg effects that inspire 'mania' were i think my idea/invention/story is going to save the world/make me millions of dollars/ improve my life for the better, that leaves me super stimulated and a little dissapointed that i didnt just get that little bit more dissociated.
btw anyone with experience with this stuff will understand what im talking about in this post, the effects of this substance are really hard to put into words, im just feeling the words right now and seperating them into seperate paragraphs.
i dosed really high and had a bad night a few days ago, about 50-60mg, snorted and oral, a little at a time, i could feel the dissosiation in the background but the stimulant and mania effects were highly pronounced, which left to all thhe good feelings kinda being shadowed. after about 5 hours i got that mxe kinda feeling were you think you can see through your eyelids or a photographic memory type thing. it got more pronounced and very vivid and lucid, to the extreme that everytime i closed my eyes my eyelids were, in effect, pretty much a projection screen for this vivid, lucid imagery...super crazy cinemagraphic imagery just appeared within seconds of closing my eyes. i had to work the next day and needed sleep so it was almost dysphoric because i just couldnt shut my mind down.
my latest experince was pretty much hole territory. i started doing 5mg lines and after 20mg it felt like i was snorting icing sugar, i guess my brain was in rewards mode (this also happened every now and then with mxe, sometimes i dosed orally and it tasted like sugar, I'm pretty convnivced our brains really like dissociative drugs). i ended up dosing about 35mg over around 5 hours. it was super euphoric, i was so dissociatied i felt like a wieghtless floationg boulder (i really love the way dissociative drugs fuck with your spacial awareness) i was in a hole for sure. but heres where it got bizzare, it felt like the slow titration of my dosing left my body completely flooded with 3-meo-pcp. pretty much i dosed the 20mg and after that every hour i did a 5mg bump which just put me right back into the hole, i only had 3-4 more bumps so 35mg is a guess. Back to my body being flooded with this stuff, after about six houirs i drunk a 500ml bottle of cold water and that put me back into the hole. and for another two hours after that, everytime i i had a smoke, it ended in me being laid out on the floor in my highly dissociated state, almost like just consuming anything flooded my nmda receptors. i slept for a bit and went out to do stuff the next day, i grabbed a coffee and had a smoke, i had to head back home cause it had me all fucked up again. really really strange peoples.
when i got home i thought i should post my strange last couple of weeks here on bluelight while im feeling in the mood to type my story. im gonna probably have a good giggle at this post in a few days when my brain feels slightly less like 3-meo-pcp-jelly.
I have had a lot of wierd experiences with higher end dosing and feel i should first warn people that my intention isnt to glamourise this substance.
i rececently recieved some white, almost fine ground salt like consitency 3-meo-pcp.
at first i thought this stuff was fairly predictable in effects but i swear almost everytime ive played around i have hit a different high.
i have had the reasonably dissociated 15-20mg effects that inspire 'mania' were i think my idea/invention/story is going to save the world/make me millions of dollars/ improve my life for the better, that leaves me super stimulated and a little dissapointed that i didnt just get that little bit more dissociated.
btw anyone with experience with this stuff will understand what im talking about in this post, the effects of this substance are really hard to put into words, im just feeling the words right now and seperating them into seperate paragraphs.
i dosed really high and had a bad night a few days ago, about 50-60mg, snorted and oral, a little at a time, i could feel the dissosiation in the background but the stimulant and mania effects were highly pronounced, which left to all thhe good feelings kinda being shadowed. after about 5 hours i got that mxe kinda feeling were you think you can see through your eyelids or a photographic memory type thing. it got more pronounced and very vivid and lucid, to the extreme that everytime i closed my eyes my eyelids were, in effect, pretty much a projection screen for this vivid, lucid imagery...super crazy cinemagraphic imagery just appeared within seconds of closing my eyes. i had to work the next day and needed sleep so it was almost dysphoric because i just couldnt shut my mind down.
my latest experince was pretty much hole territory. i started doing 5mg lines and after 20mg it felt like i was snorting icing sugar, i guess my brain was in rewards mode (this also happened every now and then with mxe, sometimes i dosed orally and it tasted like sugar, I'm pretty convnivced our brains really like dissociative drugs). i ended up dosing about 35mg over around 5 hours. it was super euphoric, i was so dissociatied i felt like a wieghtless floationg boulder (i really love the way dissociative drugs fuck with your spacial awareness) i was in a hole for sure. but heres where it got bizzare, it felt like the slow titration of my dosing left my body completely flooded with 3-meo-pcp. pretty much i dosed the 20mg and after that every hour i did a 5mg bump which just put me right back into the hole, i only had 3-4 more bumps so 35mg is a guess. Back to my body being flooded with this stuff, after about six houirs i drunk a 500ml bottle of cold water and that put me back into the hole. and for another two hours after that, everytime i i had a smoke, it ended in me being laid out on the floor in my highly dissociated state, almost like just consuming anything flooded my nmda receptors. i slept for a bit and went out to do stuff the next day, i grabbed a coffee and had a smoke, i had to head back home cause it had me all fucked up again. really really strange peoples.
when i got home i thought i should post my strange last couple of weeks here on bluelight while im feeling in the mood to type my story. im gonna probably have a good giggle at this post in a few days when my brain feels slightly less like 3-meo-pcp-jelly.
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Only think that works with me is having two different stashes: One for my dissos, one for everything else. I can have got access to everything that is not a disso and control myself pretty well, but with my disso stash I can't. So since three months or so, I gave my disso stash to my flatmate, and asked him to hide it far away from home, and only give me a monthly dose. It's working well until now
That makes sense, to dissociate that stash..
Vastness
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Happy New Year all!
I have a day to myself with no pressing responsibilities in the immediate future and a week off to think about my plans for 2017 and decided to make this a 3-MeO-PCP day.
Unfortunately my trusty milligram scale which has served me well over the past 4/5 years or so has just started to fail, nonetheless I decided to press on with my malfunctioning equipment as best as possible, using some test weights to calculate the apparent disparity in the displayed value to the true weight. Once I was satisfied I had a reasonably accurate and reproducible measure of the deficiency, I measured my dosages each 10 times, resetting and recalibrating the scale between each measurement until I believed I had things weighed to a pretty high accuracy.
Anyway I have dosed 7~8mg 90 minutes ago. 60 minutes later (30 minutes ago) I dosed another 9mg bringing my total dose over the last 2 hours to probably 16-17mg.
Confounding factors are that over 24 hours from December 31st to January 1st around 9 PM I probably consumed 1500mg of Ketamine - I use arylcyclohexylamines very rarely however so have no long term tolerance as such (although perhaps I have a lingering acute tolerance from my very recent session). Additionally I used NA-Selank approximately 38 hours ago as a dissociative antidote to enable me to attend a last minute NYE event, which I know does have a long half life and may be a complicating factor. Perhaps unwisely, I did dose 1mg Xanax at T-4 hours also for no real reason other than to make the morning a bit more fun. I have no benzo tolerance but a seemingly naturally high tolerance to the amnesiac effects of benzodiazepines and GABA agonists.
Anyway what gives? I am hesitant to redose with my malfunctioning equipment and the apparent risk of psychosis at 20mg+ doses. I think I have a reasonably robust method to manage any abberant indicators of encroaching psychosis and last dose was about an hour ago. Feel like I might be getting some first alerts but nothing too tangible so not really sure how best to proceed. Might be best to just wait another hour or so and if not then try again tomorrow. Any input would be appreciated.
I have a day to myself with no pressing responsibilities in the immediate future and a week off to think about my plans for 2017 and decided to make this a 3-MeO-PCP day.
Unfortunately my trusty milligram scale which has served me well over the past 4/5 years or so has just started to fail, nonetheless I decided to press on with my malfunctioning equipment as best as possible, using some test weights to calculate the apparent disparity in the displayed value to the true weight. Once I was satisfied I had a reasonably accurate and reproducible measure of the deficiency, I measured my dosages each 10 times, resetting and recalibrating the scale between each measurement until I believed I had things weighed to a pretty high accuracy.
Anyway I have dosed 7~8mg 90 minutes ago. 60 minutes later (30 minutes ago) I dosed another 9mg bringing my total dose over the last 2 hours to probably 16-17mg.
Confounding factors are that over 24 hours from December 31st to January 1st around 9 PM I probably consumed 1500mg of Ketamine - I use arylcyclohexylamines very rarely however so have no long term tolerance as such (although perhaps I have a lingering acute tolerance from my very recent session). Additionally I used NA-Selank approximately 38 hours ago as a dissociative antidote to enable me to attend a last minute NYE event, which I know does have a long half life and may be a complicating factor. Perhaps unwisely, I did dose 1mg Xanax at T-4 hours also for no real reason other than to make the morning a bit more fun. I have no benzo tolerance but a seemingly naturally high tolerance to the amnesiac effects of benzodiazepines and GABA agonists.
Anyway what gives? I am hesitant to redose with my malfunctioning equipment and the apparent risk of psychosis at 20mg+ doses. I think I have a reasonably robust method to manage any abberant indicators of encroaching psychosis and last dose was about an hour ago. Feel like I might be getting some first alerts but nothing too tangible so not really sure how best to proceed. Might be best to just wait another hour or so and if not then try again tomorrow. Any input would be appreciated.
Vastness
Bluelight Crew
Yeahhh, I know that would be the ideal way, am just being lazy about it as don't have a suitable container or sterile solution at the moment. Fortunately I think my somewhat questionable process of extracting accurate measurements from my dying scales seemed to be, subjectively, not too far off the mark.
Anyway I have to say at T+4hr 40min from my last dose this a very bizarre substance and not what I was expecting at all. I think that I do like it but I don't even feel especially like I am on a drug. I just got back from a walk around the streets even though it is both dark and freezing at the moment outside and I usually am pretty strict about my rule about not going outside if I am alone and experimenting with a new substance, but I judged I'd be OK to do so. I just thought about stuff but honestly I can't even put my finger on where my mood is right now. I think I feel good and I think this would definitely be a pro-social drug, but equally there wasn't the same social pressure and subsequent anxious boredom like there would be from doing cocaine or a classic stimulant type drug alone.
I don't actually even know if I am at baseline or not. I am debating redosing 15mg and seeing how that goes. I had zero feelings of impending psychosis or mania which I do get on other arylcyclohexylamines (well, I use the term loosely in this sense because I have never felt in actual danger of losing my mind but I can definitely identify strange thought patterns), coming up or down from heavy K doses alone I can catch myself thinking that other people are with me, asking me to do stuff, or I'm waiting for them to do stuff, and that I've got to do some stupid shit or other, usually I just spend 20-30 minutes doing menial pointless shit moving around my flat switching lights on and off having forgotten what the hell I was trying to do walking around in the first place, or accidentally turning the light off in the bathroom at night and then spending 10 minutes thinking about where I am and what's happening... I digress but anyway I got none of this on 3-MeO-PCP which is contrary to my expectations given the apparently increased propensity to induce psychosis and manic thought patterns. An interesting substance indeed.
Anyway I have to say at T+4hr 40min from my last dose this a very bizarre substance and not what I was expecting at all. I think that I do like it but I don't even feel especially like I am on a drug. I just got back from a walk around the streets even though it is both dark and freezing at the moment outside and I usually am pretty strict about my rule about not going outside if I am alone and experimenting with a new substance, but I judged I'd be OK to do so. I just thought about stuff but honestly I can't even put my finger on where my mood is right now. I think I feel good and I think this would definitely be a pro-social drug, but equally there wasn't the same social pressure and subsequent anxious boredom like there would be from doing cocaine or a classic stimulant type drug alone.
I don't actually even know if I am at baseline or not. I am debating redosing 15mg and seeing how that goes. I had zero feelings of impending psychosis or mania which I do get on other arylcyclohexylamines (well, I use the term loosely in this sense because I have never felt in actual danger of losing my mind but I can definitely identify strange thought patterns), coming up or down from heavy K doses alone I can catch myself thinking that other people are with me, asking me to do stuff, or I'm waiting for them to do stuff, and that I've got to do some stupid shit or other, usually I just spend 20-30 minutes doing menial pointless shit moving around my flat switching lights on and off having forgotten what the hell I was trying to do walking around in the first place, or accidentally turning the light off in the bathroom at night and then spending 10 minutes thinking about where I am and what's happening... I digress but anyway I got none of this on 3-MeO-PCP which is contrary to my expectations given the apparently increased propensity to induce psychosis and manic thought patterns. An interesting substance indeed.
Vastness
Bluelight Crew
Thanks for the advice, actually 10mg would probably have been more sensible in retrospect.
Apologies all, I don't intend to keep using this thread as some kind of running commentary/blog but I will just share my final experience of yesterday evening.
It does seem like 15mg for me is when things started to get weird. I was having a conversation over text with a friend of mine about our ambitions for the future, and fortunately what I was actually saying wasn't anything too weird but I remember my thought process and it was definitely starting to border on mania with some delusions of grandiosity about how I was going to change the world... despite the fact I was typing on an onscreen predictive text smartphone keyboard, which with K would quickly become incomprehensible and result in messages littered with spelling mistakes and nonsensical autocorrected word substitutions, it was like I couldn't get my ideas out fast enough but was still able to type with perfect accuracy using language with perfect clarity. I keep comparing this substance to K because it's really my only reference point but it really does strike me that this substance could not be more different to it's chemical cousin.
Anyway at about T+2 hours I distinctly remember the experience took a sudden and unexpected turn... suddenly I couldn't remember how to spell a word, I literally stopped what I was doing mid-sentence and the fact that I couldn't do this seemed to take on a huge significance. Over the next 20 minutes to half an hour (I know this from reading back my strange mid-sentence break in the conversation) I remember feeling distinctly uncomfortable and different, I could hear an incessant loud whine, almost like an alarm, like the characteristic otherworldly buzz of K turned up several frequencies and massively amplified.
I remember feeling like I was observing my own self-awareness, but also feeling very strongly that this sense of self awareness was not actually myself... like I was a being that had suddenly gained awareness of it's own sentience, and was able to observe the feeling that previously I had believed to constitute self-awareness... I remember thinking something like "if this (or that) is not me, then what am I?" ...or something along those lines, it's very hard to actually properly convey the feeling but I believe it was still a verbal thought (as in, spoken in my own internal monologue rather than a feeling alone).
This was a hugely bizarre sensation, and like nothing I have ever experienced before. I guess this is what would be called true "dissociation" but it's not something I've ever felt, at least not so acutely and in this way, on any other dissociative or indeed any other drug. It was not a pleasant sensation and did have quite a sinister tone to it, although I cannot put my finger on exactly why this is. I remember thinking also "so THIS is what psychosis feels like", although in retrospect this was almost certainly because of all the warnings I had read about 3-MeO-PCP's propensity to induce psychosis, so I don't know if this is actually what psychosis would feel like... anyway for reasons I am not exactly sure about, except perhaps an awareness that I was in a very atypical and uncomfortable state of mind I went digging in my drug stash for a 2mg bar of alprazolam, I broke it in half intending to take 1 mg, but then thought better of it and just set it on the table in front of me, and just made myself sit down in silent contemplation.
I couldn't say exactly what happened or what I was thinking after that but the feeling gradually subsided and I gradually came back to myself somewhat and tried to sleep a little later... I remember lying there feeling quite blank, buzzed and with occasional rushes of just maniacal happiness about nothing in particular.
Just as a brief addendum, at T+4.5 hours I unwisely decided to take 20mg zolpidem as it was late and I couldn't actually sleep (I don't usually have this many pharmaceuticals just lying around, I just happened to recently acquire a few things I have always been curious about).
This is something I will most definitely not do again but I ended up having a very bizarre but I believe mercifully brief trip where all the furniture in my room was moving around on it's own accord, or being moved by some faceless nameless entities. I don't know when this was, but I have a memory of overturning my coffee table, knocking a bunch of stuff on the floor, at which point I actually asked the entities, I believe out loud, to stop doing this and to please put everything back to how it was. Obviously they did not respond or do as I had asked, and I believe I realised at this point that obviously it was actually just myself moving things (possibly just the one aforementioned coffee table in a misguided effort to stop or undo the other imagined movements) so I sorted things out as best I could and finally stumbled into bed.
Apologies all, I don't intend to keep using this thread as some kind of running commentary/blog but I will just share my final experience of yesterday evening.
It does seem like 15mg for me is when things started to get weird. I was having a conversation over text with a friend of mine about our ambitions for the future, and fortunately what I was actually saying wasn't anything too weird but I remember my thought process and it was definitely starting to border on mania with some delusions of grandiosity about how I was going to change the world... despite the fact I was typing on an onscreen predictive text smartphone keyboard, which with K would quickly become incomprehensible and result in messages littered with spelling mistakes and nonsensical autocorrected word substitutions, it was like I couldn't get my ideas out fast enough but was still able to type with perfect accuracy using language with perfect clarity. I keep comparing this substance to K because it's really my only reference point but it really does strike me that this substance could not be more different to it's chemical cousin.
Anyway at about T+2 hours I distinctly remember the experience took a sudden and unexpected turn... suddenly I couldn't remember how to spell a word, I literally stopped what I was doing mid-sentence and the fact that I couldn't do this seemed to take on a huge significance. Over the next 20 minutes to half an hour (I know this from reading back my strange mid-sentence break in the conversation) I remember feeling distinctly uncomfortable and different, I could hear an incessant loud whine, almost like an alarm, like the characteristic otherworldly buzz of K turned up several frequencies and massively amplified.
I remember feeling like I was observing my own self-awareness, but also feeling very strongly that this sense of self awareness was not actually myself... like I was a being that had suddenly gained awareness of it's own sentience, and was able to observe the feeling that previously I had believed to constitute self-awareness... I remember thinking something like "if this (or that) is not me, then what am I?" ...or something along those lines, it's very hard to actually properly convey the feeling but I believe it was still a verbal thought (as in, spoken in my own internal monologue rather than a feeling alone).
This was a hugely bizarre sensation, and like nothing I have ever experienced before. I guess this is what would be called true "dissociation" but it's not something I've ever felt, at least not so acutely and in this way, on any other dissociative or indeed any other drug. It was not a pleasant sensation and did have quite a sinister tone to it, although I cannot put my finger on exactly why this is. I remember thinking also "so THIS is what psychosis feels like", although in retrospect this was almost certainly because of all the warnings I had read about 3-MeO-PCP's propensity to induce psychosis, so I don't know if this is actually what psychosis would feel like... anyway for reasons I am not exactly sure about, except perhaps an awareness that I was in a very atypical and uncomfortable state of mind I went digging in my drug stash for a 2mg bar of alprazolam, I broke it in half intending to take 1 mg, but then thought better of it and just set it on the table in front of me, and just made myself sit down in silent contemplation.
I couldn't say exactly what happened or what I was thinking after that but the feeling gradually subsided and I gradually came back to myself somewhat and tried to sleep a little later... I remember lying there feeling quite blank, buzzed and with occasional rushes of just maniacal happiness about nothing in particular.
Just as a brief addendum, at T+4.5 hours I unwisely decided to take 20mg zolpidem as it was late and I couldn't actually sleep (I don't usually have this many pharmaceuticals just lying around, I just happened to recently acquire a few things I have always been curious about).
This is something I will most definitely not do again but I ended up having a very bizarre but I believe mercifully brief trip where all the furniture in my room was moving around on it's own accord, or being moved by some faceless nameless entities. I don't know when this was, but I have a memory of overturning my coffee table, knocking a bunch of stuff on the floor, at which point I actually asked the entities, I believe out loud, to stop doing this and to please put everything back to how it was. Obviously they did not respond or do as I had asked, and I believe I realised at this point that obviously it was actually just myself moving things (possibly just the one aforementioned coffee table in a misguided effort to stop or undo the other imagined movements) so I sorted things out as best I could and finally stumbled into bed.
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Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
3-MeO-PCP is weird in that you're really not quite aware of how altered you are. I've had many instances where I felt like I wasn't on a drug at all, or just a bit, but in retrospect my behavior was altered quite significantly. Definitely need to be careful with it.
The other night I decided to take about 5mg of 3-MeO-PCE at the same time as 3mg of 3-MeO-PCP, and then I smoked 2 hits of strong weed (after not having been smoking more than twice a week for a few weeks). For a couple of hours things for really intense, I was nearly panicking at times. I had intended on reading my book for a few hours but instead I spent 3 and a half hours reading posts in here, found some really interesting stuff in some threads people brought back to life that I had never seen, but it took me so long to do so. Pretty weird mind state, it was a reminder to me of how much marijuana potentiates dissos.
The other night I decided to take about 5mg of 3-MeO-PCE at the same time as 3mg of 3-MeO-PCP, and then I smoked 2 hits of strong weed (after not having been smoking more than twice a week for a few weeks). For a couple of hours things for really intense, I was nearly panicking at times. I had intended on reading my book for a few hours but instead I spent 3 and a half hours reading posts in here, found some really interesting stuff in some threads people brought back to life that I had never seen, but it took me so long to do so. Pretty weird mind state, it was a reminder to me of how much marijuana potentiates dissos.
Vastness
Bluelight Crew
That's interesting, I remember thinking yesterday I wonder how this substance would combine with weed. At the time although I didn't have any I thought it might be quite fun, but actually I think now it might not be very fun at all. I combined MXE with weed a few years ago, twice, with low doses of both, and both times it produced a very unpleasant feeling of impending doom. Actually MXE for me is quite unpleasant anyway and I am prone to anxiety on weed so in retrospect it is maybe not too surprising that this would be the case...
I can see what you mean about 3-MeO-PCP being altering in a way that you are not actually aware of it. I would love to experiment with it in a social setting as it does seem like it would be highly pro-social, but obviously this is something to bear in mind. I am very curious if low doses would even be nootropic and would like to try using it on a normal day, for example at work, but I will probably not actually do this for the same aforementioned reasons. I have read reports of people using MXE in this manner which previously to me was incomprehensible but after my experience with 3-MeO-PCP I guess I can see why people would try it if they don't experience the same fear-stricken confusion that even low doses of MXE gives me.
I can see what you mean about 3-MeO-PCP being altering in a way that you are not actually aware of it. I would love to experiment with it in a social setting as it does seem like it would be highly pro-social, but obviously this is something to bear in mind. I am very curious if low doses would even be nootropic and would like to try using it on a normal day, for example at work, but I will probably not actually do this for the same aforementioned reasons. I have read reports of people using MXE in this manner which previously to me was incomprehensible but after my experience with 3-MeO-PCP I guess I can see why people would try it if they don't experience the same fear-stricken confusion that even low doses of MXE gives me.
Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
Yeah I find 3-MeO-PCP to be extremely pro-social. I actually use it more like a stimulant than a dissociative, I like taking multiple consecutive tiny doses (2-3mg) nasally, it builds up this great hypomanic, inspirational, lightly stimulated state with none of the downsides of actual stimulants. To me this is where it really shines. If I take very low doses like this, there is no intoxication or dissociation, I can function perfectly normally but with the aforementioned enhancements present.
Occasionally I take larger doses but I find other dissos better for that.
Occasionally I take larger doses but I find other dissos better for that.
Still weirded out by my current batch and/or tolerance.
Went to a warehouse show on Friday, took ~22mg 3-MeO a couple hours before leaving so I would really feel it when I got there. And I did feel it, subtly. You'd think at that dose I'd be manic out of my mind, but I was just enjoying hooping (maybe I enjoyed the crowd's attention a little more than usual?) and chatting with my friends. It wasn't until I did a bump of DCK that I felt really dissociated. I was super spun for about 1.5-2hrs of the show, during Crystal Castles' set - so it was quite intense. Give their music a listen and you'll understand but then for the headliner I evened out substantially. I returned to a feeling of a kind of heightened sobriety? Or maybe stimulation is a simpler way to put it?
Then on the commute back home I kept demanding $1 pizza, so maybe there was still some mania there
Maybe that infamous dissociative tolerance is finally settling in for me. I keep trying to get back to the experience where I took ~12mg of 3-MeO (same batch as the one I currently have) and it basically felt like a speedy roll. I'm also wondering if a new batch would have better results.
Went to a warehouse show on Friday, took ~22mg 3-MeO a couple hours before leaving so I would really feel it when I got there. And I did feel it, subtly. You'd think at that dose I'd be manic out of my mind, but I was just enjoying hooping (maybe I enjoyed the crowd's attention a little more than usual?) and chatting with my friends. It wasn't until I did a bump of DCK that I felt really dissociated. I was super spun for about 1.5-2hrs of the show, during Crystal Castles' set - so it was quite intense. Give their music a listen and you'll understand
but then for the headliner I evened out substantially. I returned to a feeling of a kind of heightened sobriety? Or maybe stimulation is a simpler way to put it? Then on the commute back home I kept demanding $1 pizza, so maybe there was still some mania there
Maybe that infamous dissociative tolerance is finally settling in for me. I keep trying to get back to the experience where I took ~12mg of 3-MeO (same batch as the one I currently have) and it basically felt like a speedy roll. I'm also wondering if a new batch would have better results.
I honestly don't understand how you guys are taking 12mg+ doses and not being dissociated out of your minds. Maybe it's because it was in the beginning of my use with it, but the 2-3 times I got past the 10mg point I've been very, very dissociated and reached the uncomfortable state of blankness, even one time feeling the sinister-ness described above, and feeling like I was fighting for my life against an evil entity attaching itself to me.
Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
Yeah that's how I feel about it too, I dislike high doses of it, I find them uncomfortable and highly dissociating but in a weird way. I've had months where I took it the vast majority of days, in consecutive low doses like I described, and I honestly feel like my tolerance hasn't gone up at all. Still taking the same dosages as before.
Img_9999
Bluelighter
15 mgs is my absolute max with this one. My current pattern of use is two 7 mg doses divided by a couple of hours appart, to get a nice dissociated stimulation, or (pretty rarely though) a single 12 mg dose with some cannabis for some weird trippy disso times.
I dose more or less once a week with a couple of two week breaks in between.
I dose more or less once a week with a couple of two week breaks in between.
With my current tolerance I'll usually go with 10-15 mg as a starter. If I get a little excited I might take the same again after a while, and so on. While I do sometimes get dissociated like crazy, with this batch I just melt into a puddle of love.