THE pills used to treat people suffering severe mental illness are also killing them

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THE magic pills used to treat some people suffering severe mental illness are also killing them, according to experts.

Psychiatrists, clinical psychologists, medical researchers and other professionals from around the country have this week gathered at the annual Society for Mental Health Research Conference in Sydney.

Among the issues broached Wednesday was a life expectancy gap between people with and without mental illness.

St Vincents Hospital endocrinologist and clinical researcher, Professor Katherine Samaras, said there was a “20-year survival shortfall” and the gap was not “getting any closer to being zero”.

She attributed the discrepancy in part to antipsychotics and antidepressants that have previously been linked to weight gain and subsequent physical conditions including diabetes, cancer and hypertension.

In a session called ‘Can we stop killing our patients?’ Prof Samaras said there were many silent diseases “that occur in severe mental illness”.

“It’s the diabetes, the heart disease, the hypertension and cancer that occur on average two decades earlier than they would occur in people who didn’t have severe mental illness,” Prof. Samaras said.

“For women it starts very, very early with disturbances in menstrual cycle.”

Prof. Samaras said some antidepressants were known to cause patients to gain “seven per cent of their body weight within 12 months ... and double the risk of diabetes ... which is guaranteed to bring on metabolic disturbances”.

She said a “slow way (to) ... kill a patient” was to “just add sweetener”.

“It’s probably very easy to kill a patient,” she said.

“Many of us in physical health know how quickly and easily that can happen.

“Weight gain occurs because we’re not intervening with interventions that we now know work.”

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She said Clozapine therapy — effectively used to treat people with schizophrenia and Parkinson’s disease — was associated “not only with rapid increases in weight but the greatest risk for incident premature diabetes”.

Clozapine has been effective in the treatment of patients with schizophrenia who have proven resistant to other drugs, experts said.

But according to the medical researchers, 68 per cent of users are at extreme risk of developing type two diabetes over the next five years.

Psychiatrist Dan Siskind said he prescribed Clozapine to a patient suffering schizophrenia because it was the only drug available that would work on him but while “he’s not tormented anymore, he’s morbidly obese and has diabetes”.

“I am failing him,” Dr Siskind said.

“The people who are on Clozapine ... my patients tell me they are not full. One patient eats a casserole in one sitting. They crave fatty foods and sugar foods.”

Psychiatrist Dr Julia Lappin, of the University of New South Wales School of Psychiatry, said premature death among people with severe mental illness was the “scandal of our generation”.

“There’s a mortality gap that continues to grow,” Dr Lappin said.

“We really need to think about what we’re going to do about reducing the mortality gap for our population and assisting them with domestic health care.”

Dr Lappin said people with severe mental illness were dying younger “largely due to very high rates of cardiometabolic risk factors: they smoke much more than the general population; they’re more obese; their blood pressure’s higher; they have diabetes and extraordinarily high rates of metabolic syndrome”.

“In addition they have very sedentary lifestyles and poor nutrition,” she said.

She said it was possible for appropriate dietary and exercise interventions to combat the problem.

NSW Minister for mental health and medical research Pru Goward said mental illness was “an enormous burden on society and the economy”.

“You don’t get your fair whack of funding,” she told the conference.

“No longer is a mental illness diagnosis the end of the road. It’s the beginning of another journey: The journey to recovery with the right support and care.

“We need to incorporate mental health research into everything we do.

“Good mental health is everything.”

Ms Goward said the NSW government had invested $1.8 billion in mental health, including “new models of care ... like recovery”, this year.


Source: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...t/news-story/f32756f896fa8a76c1d7471e8a622525
 
It's bad for you if you don't and it's bad for you if you do. Catch 22.
 
I've had my shit moments with antidepressants. First time I went on them I put on 40kg then changed meds and these one's aren't too bad.

I think I'd be dead without anti depressants although even whilst on them I have tried taking my life.

Bipolar is a bitch and perhaps I shouldn't of taken them to begin with but in the start it was advised.

Now it is a bitch to get off them because of the side effects you get gradually getting off them.
 
Not to mention that a recent study I read about on bl but don't know how to find atm showed that a full 2/3rds of psychoactive drugs, such as Haldol, are in fact carcinogens. (Adderall, however, was not carcinogenic.)
 
It's also fucked the way these drugs have been designed. With antidepressants you get no buzz. I would just like to quit cold turkey but the meds aren't made that way. If I wean off them slowly, I still get brain zaps, foginess blah blah and this will last months. It's highly inconvenient whilst you're working etc. It's not like as if you can just put your life on hold for months to get off them.

Wish I was more educated before I began taking them however then there is the plus factor. They can make a potentially shit day tolerable. However even that comes at a price, you just end up being passive the whole day without a care in the world for anything.
 
Not to mention that a large meta-analysis study from 2015 I think it was found that 2/3rds OF ALL PSYCH MEDS, such as for example Haldol, are CARCINOGENS!!! (Luckily, Adderall was not determined to be carcinogenic.)
 
It's also fucked the way these drugs have been designed. With antidepressants you get no buzz. I would just like to quit cold turkey but the meds aren't made that way. If I wean off them slowly, I still get brain zaps, foginess blah blah and this will last months. It's highly inconvenient whilst you're working etc. It's not like as if you can just put your life on hold for months to get off them.

Wish I was more educated before I began taking them however then there is the plus factor. They can make a potentially shit day tolerable. However even that comes at a price, you just end up being passive the whole day without a care in the world for anything.

Yeah, but knowing doesn't necessarily make it any easier to make a choice. Then you just know that the 1 thing held up a "good option" really isn't. So is self-medication better than their crap? I guess if you've got the self control for it.
 
Not to mention that a large meta-analysis study from 2015 I think it was found that 2/3rds OF ALL PSYCH MEDS, such as for example Haldol, are CARCINOGENS!!! (Luckily, Adderall was not determined to be carcinogenic.)

Link please.
 
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