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Nice vortech, it feels so much better when you can spend your work time doing stuff you are really into. And also making a lot more than minimum wage. :) Sometimes you gotta make some hard or nerve-wracking decisions in order to make positive changes.

I just had one of the most fun weekends of all time. Saturday night was absolutely epic. Saw my friend's show in Raleigh, it was their best set I've seen yet, and I knew SO MANY people there, it was crazy. Met a bunch more too. I was having bumps of 3-MeO-PCP throughout, and some phenibut, and beers, and I reached this place of complete fearlessness. Hanging out with random people, in and out of the green room where all sorts of shenanigans were going down. I danced with a bunch of people, co-invented a new foot-shake, smoked weed with this dude that started telling me all about how he was about to get 100 pounds of it, got my ass grabbed a lot. Got propositioned by 2 different couples about some swinging-style action, one of them was this couple who has been married 10 years and has 3 kids, and this was their first time out in years, the other was my friend's cousin's girlfriend (they both have sex with whoever they feel like, actually that night he took MDMA and kept asking me to sit in his lap, so who knows where some sort of group thing with them would have ended up, might have gotten a little weird for me =D But actually I think she just wanted to have sex with me alone). I didn't go with any of it since I love my girlfriend and we're monogamous, it actually wasn't even difficult, which surprised me because I find my friend's cousin's girlfriend very sexy, but it was really flattering. Afterwards I got a hotel room and the band came over, but somehow word got out and a whole bunch of people showed up. Everyone was totally respectful but the noise level got really high and there were drugs in there and so forth, and it was under my name, so I got pretty nervous but people cleared out and just a handful of people were left and it turned out fine. This guy who just moved to where I live brought some coke and me and a couple of my friends and him stayed up all night doing it and talking about anything and everything... exchanged numbers, he wants to jam and hike and generally hang out, that guy was awesome so I'll definitely take him up on it. Also he asked me to join the band he represents, or at least try out for it, which was the main act of the show (my friend's band was opening although they were the highlight to be honest). This other band is a pretty good jam-style band. I don't want to do it, I've got my own band and music thing, and just like why I didn't join my friend's band who we went to see, I just don't have the ability to travel around to various states and gig multiple times a week because I have a full-time job and a mortgage and bills. But it was cool that he asked, makes me feel good, since it was after we played a few tracks of stuff we have recorded.

Also my friend who I went there with (right before the show we ate a massive belated Thanksgiving feast at his grandma's house) has a recording studio in his house, he just finished recording the EP my friend's band is about to release and he's trying to transition from being a manager at a sub shop to a professional recording engineer. He did a truly wonderful job on the EP, and he was making a ton of connections at the show and the afterparty, members of the band were hyping him up to people too. There's at least one guy who will almost certainly be a client. So that's exciting for him, he hates his job, it drains his energy so much, but he loves recording and producing with a passion and he has a real gift for it.

We're building our music community more and more over the last 2 years, and it really feels like it's gaining some momentum now. :) It's kinda weird for me though because I'm not sure where I want to fall on various aspects. It's like, I see my friend who joined the band, and his band is doing great, and he's living the dream in many ways. He travels around, plays shows for really enthusiastic crowds (which is literally the greatest feeling in the world), meets tons of people, has a lot of sex, and plays music every single day. He has a girlfriend but they've got an open thing, they're both like, you're the one I want to return to but we don't own each other and sometimes we want to have a sexual thing with someone else. And that sounds really cool to me. But I am happy and satisfied with my girlfriend, and I don't think she'd want to go that route. Maybe she'd try it, but honestly when I think about it, I don't want her to have sex with someone else. I feel like I should be able to get past that sort of possessiveness thing, but it's just how I feel. And that's cool, I like that we have a thing that's special between just the two of us. As much as I sometimes want to have the experience of having a sexual relationship with more people, if it was between that and losing her there's no question which one I'd pick. And if I can't handle her having sex with someone else, then obviously I can't ask the same of her.

Anyway, besides that aspect of his life I think about longingly occasionally, the rest of it confuses me too. Like, I really want to have that sort of experience on one hand, of being on the road, playing a bunch of gigs, having a band that is increasing in popularity, might break through to a real place where you start to get a lot of attention/money and spread your music around to a lot of people. And I actually could do that, I've already passed up 2 opportunities to at least try. Thing is, I own my house, I have a mortgage, so I can't afford to have that in-between time where I'm making a lot less money than I do now. Plus, I'd see my girlfriend a whole lot less, and all my other friends too. I like my life the way it is, and my job doesn't make me unhappy at all. But at the same time, the thing I care about the most is music, by far. So it's kind of a confusing jumble. But the cool thing is, because I'm good friends with a band doing that, I get to sort of experience it and still have my life the way it is, they're always telling me I'm so lucky because I still get to play music but I'm also financially stable. So it's quite possible that I actually have the best of both worlds and it's just that "grass is greener thing" acting up that we humans seem to be cursed with.
 
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Ah shit I think I might feel a cold coming on. I thought it was just a scratchy throat from smoking a bunch of cigarettes this weekend after not smoking them for a while, but it's starting to seem like more. Hopefully after I get some good sleep it will disappear.
 
I tried snus this weekend and almost threw up from the spins it gave me. I do not like a strong nicotine buzz.
 
I tried snus this weekend and almost threw up from the spins it gave me. I do not like a strong nicotine buzz.

Hehehe, that happened to me my first time as well. That's one reason I like loose, though: you can shape a prilla to the exact size of your liking. Plus it's a fun little ritual to mould the tobacco with your hands.

Ever since Xammy reminded me that I've been meaning to try Swedish snus, I've been really getting into it. I don't find it terribly addictive or compulsive, and I don't feel the need to use it for every waking moment, but I very much enjoy the relaxed, methodical state of mind when I'm socializing, playing cards, posting on Bluelight, or just generally unwinding. Cannabis and snus combine particularly well, with the synergy working both ways: the snus negates any pot-paranoia, while the cannabis neutralizes the slightly icky physical symptoms nicotine can give me.

But yeah, there seems to be a skill involved with using snus properly. Not only determining the proper amount, but also in where you place it in your lip, and how to control the drip (too much drip = nausea, throat burning IME).

And with regard to health effects, as far as I'm concerned, with the relative safety of Swedish snus, and how much pleasure I get out of it, I'll take my chances.
 
Time to chuck this 3meopce I found. Cannot have dissos around, way too compulsive. NOT about to go into another bout of covert using. What a freaking carousel. Stay strong out there guys.
 
To Pharmakos: I've heard a lot of positive reviews from people with various cancers about Lion's Mane mushroom, traditional Chinese medicine component, apparently it may cause an apoptosis (programmed cell death) of cancer cells. Get the best extract of it, get some raw, if, of course you haven't already. I would also recommend high quality extract of turmeric, the one that's bioavailable, it'll help with an overall health in heavy conditions.
And shit, I've heard how heavy chemo therapy is... It sucks, but hang in there, maybe try tricks of "mind over matter" deeply, I knew a person with a stomach cancer who was in his last stage, about ready to die, when doctors telling him that there's nothing else to do, and out of the sudden on his next check up he finds out that the cancer is recessing, pretty much by itself! He is cancer free now, claiming he didn't too anything... Apoptosis of cancer cells could be induced by different means but, what's most important, it is possible.

Much love to you, never give up as long as you are living!
 
thanks guys

Pharmakos <3 You alright mate?

as alright as i can be i suppose. i wish there was more i could do, but right now i've just gotta wait and see how the treatment goes.



@Volsam -- while i don't outright doubt that herbal medicine can treat cancer, i think that if they do work you have to start them pretty early on, before the cancer can develop very far. unfortunately, my cancer progressed just about as far as it could by the time i started treatment. the first line chemotherapy i got earlier this year is supposed to work on 90%+ of cases. which was an awesome prognosis at the time. but it didn't work for me. and things get a lot less optimistic with Stage 3 Testicular Cancer if the first line doesn't work. =/

i AM, however, trying Rick Simpson Oil. don't think i mentioned to you guys that i finally got my Medical Marijuana card. which has been a pretty good silver lining.



i always feel bad venting in PD, since i don't want to ruin anyone's good vibes. but i feel a lot more comfortable here than i do in TDS, since i never really posted there before i got sick so i don't really know anyone over there. thanks for letting me vent guys.

i haven't tripped in so long. i've been really itching to, but i'm afraid to since so many psychedelics are TNF (Tumor Necrosis Factor) inhibitors, and i have no idea how that would interact with chemo. not that i feel physically well enough to dose most days anyway, but towards the end of my three week cycle i think i could.

haven't even touched DXM in months. which is strange for me.
 
Pharmakos, a friend of a friend wrote a book on cancer treatment sans chemo based on thousands of hours of research and pouring into all the available data on alternative treatments. If you're interested I'll get the name of the book for you. The wife or husband was diagnosed, did not want to go the chemo route, and so the both of them - being social researchers and used to trawling through massive datasets - decided to go through all the available data and research on treatment options to find what alternatives out of the hundreds touted as effective would actually work. After beating it and realizing they had compiled a dataset pretty much unheard of, they decided to turn it into a book. It could be helpful. Even just for quality of life purposes if nothing else.

Either way, I wish you the best <3


Oh shiiiiiit PMing you. Anyone else who does PM me, I'll get everyone connected if so!
 
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Pharmakos... not sure what to say. That's fucked up, I do, however, think it's at least worth trying some herbal routes, seems like worst case scenario it wouldn't help, best case scenario it would help a lot. Hang in there man, I've heard all kinds of stories of people beating cancers unexpectedly and completely.

And never fear venting in here. <3

As for me, I've definitely got a cold, congested all through my chest and nose and I feel like shit. Whenever I get sick I feel kinda depressed along with it. It just has me thinking. I know I got sick because I overdid it this weekend. I actually think I would have been fine partying Friday and Saturday if I had chilled out Sunday, but as I tend to do with stimulants/empathogens, I decided I would do "a little more" 4-EMC Sunday... that turned into compulsively redosing at least a gram over the course of the day, and eventually the oral redoses didn't do much so I tried snorting 2 redoses. Well, last time I did that I almost got sick, I seemed to barely fight it off, it felt the same as this except this time it went over the edge. Ugh. When this 4-EMC is gone I'm going to take a long break from stimulants, maybe I just shouldn't be doing them at all.

Getting older is weird... I'm closing on 34, it's time for me to consider that shit starts going wrong for people soon, I'm not in my 20s anymore. It's gotten me paranoid lately, Pharmakos' experience kinda nailed it in, ever since I found out you got cancer and you're a few years younger than me I start to get concerned about all the little things that don't seem normal. And beyond that I am starting to think about what systems are going to be giving me trouble. For example (the biggest example that makes me feel paranoid), I tend to have to pee a lot, I've always been that way but it's gotten steadily worse as I've gotten older. Especially if I drink beer or coffee, sometimes it will be like every 20 minutes for a good while. And the stream doesn't come as strongly as it used to. I can tell that as I get older it's going to become more and more of a problem. I suppose I should go to the doctor about it but I haven't done so yet, actually I haven't even had a physical exam in 2 years. Last physical I got the doctor said I was in amazing shape and he was impressed, but that was like 2 months after I did ibogaine, I was eating really well and working out to the point that it was the best shape I've ever been in. And I wasn't partying much either, I was mostly going to bed at midnight, waking up at 7:30 and working out, and hanging out sometimes. These days I still work out (though a lot less) and I eat pretty well a lot of the time, but my level of substance use has gone way up, various things, alcohol is a big one. I also smoked cigarettes and dipped, one or the other, every day for like the last year at least... I stopped using nicotine daily so I feel good about that but just between everything I tend to go pretty hard and I know I need to chill out on that. I've been feeling pretty invincible until recently but that's certainly an illusion. Even if I have a really strong constitution, no one can keep it up forever.

And I miss my girlfriend, damn it, I wish she'd just get home already. :( It would be a lot nicer if she was here right now...

I tried snus this weekend and almost threw up from the spins it gave me. I do not like a strong nicotine buzz.

I don't like the nicotine buzz either, there is a point where I barely feel it that it's decent, and I've had a few instances while on dissociatives or stimulants where it felt amazing, but generally after feeling nicotine, from smoking it or otherwise, I feel worse than before I felt it. Which is why it's such a strange drug to me. Every other drug I get compulsions to, it's obvious to me why... it's because I get a great high I really enjoy. The same is not true of nicotine so it puzzles me why it's compulsive to me. It's kinda creepy.
 
That truly must suck pharmakos, hang in there man :) <3 Of course you're always welcome here!! Your vibes matter like just all of ours, bearing a lot of gravitas - all of our ups and downs.
You got dealt a really shitty hand :( I would be wary about going completely nuts on the herbs etc and trying everything, but the ones that come with a proper reason like the turmeric and certainly not discounting certain mushrooms like also reishi (?) seem worth trying if the investment isn't too insane.

You're not the only one worrying about getting old xorkoth - my ex of 35 was feeling bad about it a LOT (maybe the smoking wasn't doing her any favors in particular though - also daily alcohol but that with a lot of moderation of dosage - then again it should be noted she had severe anxiety issues). And I myself have also started to get similar or even the same stuff you're talking about, like having to pee a lot when drinking even a little, which can get ridiculous if your muscles that control it are really slacking and get stuck 'half way'.
Also I can easily get a pallor, pale or at worst even yellowish green complexion. Wondered about certain forms of anemia a few days ago... I find it hard to say how damaged or bad my condition is but I don't see myself growing old.

Fortunately the blood test not too long ago was alright.

Yeah very happy that I don't smoke anymore - i must remember to smoke my occasional weed pure tho. If I will go back on lyrica then I expect my thirst for alcohol to go away for a decent part (it used to have that effect), something that could help my health in the long run even if lyrica is not ideal to take itself.
 
And I myself have also started to get similar or even the same stuff you're talking about, like having to pee a lot when drinking even a little, which can get ridiculous if your muscles that control it are really slacking and get stuck 'half way'.

Yeah that's exactly it, it's ridiculous, I'll end up going to pee between every couple of songs when at band practice, or every few hands at poker, or like playing shows, the second half of each set can be torturous. It will start to happen as soon as I get about 1 beer down, or 1 cup of coffee. It doesn't happen usually without one of those substances, but I still generally have to pee more often than most people. Every once in a while it doesn't happen at all for some reason when I drink, the other night I was drinking a bunch and I had to pee one time the entire night, it was awesome.

And I've been taking phenibut (you mentioning Lyrica reminded me) a lot recently, and pretty consistently for quite a while (2 years, plus other long periods before that), makes me kinda nervous. Especially since I also drink.
 
Yes, you're always welcome here pharmakos <3 it's not always rainbows and sunshine.

Just went to a preliminary job interview. I'm plenty qualified and I think it went well, but I won't find out for up to two or three weeks whether they even want a second interview. Extremely anxious now, I need this job, but the wait might kill me first.
 
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New dexedrine.
My doctor wants me to basically take half the normal dose for the first week. So 20mg instead of 40 split in 2 doses right.
These new ones are propharma i think. They look way different and theyre way more potent than the barr brand joints i always had in the past. I can feel just that 10. Not a high or anything but physical effects.
As in i was unable to nap and ive had to shit twice now.
 
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