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Tattoos and pain meds

king.snork1

king.snork1

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Okay so I recently won a competition for which the prize is 2 full consecutive days of tattooing by 2 artists which I'm stoked about!

I've got plenty of tattoos (arms, legs, ribs, back) some of which I sat for up to ~9hours at a time, so I know tattoos are supposed to hurt but that's basically the only information I've been able to find when trying to find something that I can take to help with the pain when sitting in the chair for 8+ hours 2 days in a row with 2 seperate needles..

I wouldn't be zonked when greeting the artists etc, I would take a break once things are under way then take something so I'm not making any 'bad decisions' whilst under the infuence my only job is to sit there and take the pain. (I would be doing so without the artists knowledge)

Definately not weed I've done that before and it intensified the pain 10fold which was not ideal.
I was thinking along the lines of an oxy but anyone with experience in doing the same please advise!!

Sidenote.. Normally I would just break the sessions up but since I'm being flown to where I'll be getting ink for 2 days I need to be able to sit well so they can properly finish whatever they start before I return home.
 
An opiate would definitely be my choice. If you take a reasonable dose according to your tolerance you won't be zonked out, it won't cloud your judgement, but it will dull the pain.

Oxycodone, morphine, hydrocodone, ... will all work. But so will weaker ones depending on tolerance; codeine, dihydrocodeine, tilidine, tramadol

Personally, for this purpose, I'd choose: in order of preference; oxycodone, heroin (dunno if that's an acceptable option for you though), tilidine or even tramadol (tramadol might not get you high - it only gives ~10% of the population a high), but its analgesic (painkilling) properties are quite effective regardless. I'd choose one of these as every one of those 4 opioids don't leave me too sedated/groggy, actually on the contrary even. They give me energy (again: at a reasonable dose); too much of any of those opioids, save for maybe tramadol (dosing too high on that will leave you a seizing mess instead :p) and you'll be a drooling mess. =D

Do you have a tolerance to opiates? If so, which one(s)? How often do you use them and at what dose(s)?
Which opiates/oids or alternatively other drugs with painkilling properties do you have access to for this? (although aside from opioids I don't see any drug-class that would provide the effects you're looking for without the side-effects you're looking to avoid. ;)
 
It's starting to sound like oxy would be the go, havnt gone deep enough down the rabbit hole for H at this point and I doubt this would be the ideal time for my first experience?

I have a fairly low tolerance for most opiates Ive only really binged in the past I havnt ever used any of them consistently enough to build up much resistance to them..

As far as accessibility goes I'll be able to get my hands or more or less anything I've still got a month or so till this is happening so plenty of time to source whatever it is I end up taking..

Another thing I couldn't help but notice during my searches was mention of epinephrine/adrenaline OD.. Now this was probably just a self proclaimed Google doctor but he's planted a seed and I need it uprooted.

Thanks for the detailed response extremely helpful!
 
I'd go with oxy too. :)

Mind explaining what you mean by 'epinephrine/adrenaline OD'?

Epi/adrenaline is a completely different substance than opioids, so I'm not sure what your question is..?

You're very welcome! ;)
 
Pill2Chill said:
Mind explaining what you mean by 'epinephrine/adrenaline OD
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Said doctor suggested that the stimulation of constant pain(tattoo) would release adrenaline at which point introducing opiates would be dangerous?
Like I said he didn't seem very educated but just wanted to clarify:)
 
That's a load of crap.

Unless he means that because of the adrenaline released you won't feel the opiate's effects as well as you would when taken for fun while not actually in pain, and redose your opioid/dose higher than you normally would because of it. Leaving you at risk for an opiate OD because you're trying to compensate for the adrenalin fucking with the opiate's effects.

But honestly only idiots don't realize that their tolerance's limits remains the same, regardless of how effective it is under certain circumstances (for you while getting needle'd for a tat). And besides, dosing a tiny bit higher than you normally would doesn't equal suicide (or OD). You just have to know your limits beforehand, because it's possible you won't be able to properly estimate your max. dose while the tattoo is being placed.
 
when you're in pain your body releases natural opiates I've heard to cope with it.
I'd just take a benzo like xanax - anxiety is interlinked with pain xanax will make you more comfortable in the chair and stop any possible stress or panicking from the pain.

I don't hink strong opiates are warranted for tattoo pain - unless you just wanna be high for your tattoo in which case go for em!
 
I've only ever heard of alcohol and weed being the two big no nos. I've only gotten high once in 15 sessions smoking weed, and my experience was very similar to yours, in my sternum of all places. Your situation sounds very unique though I would want to pop some pills too.

I read an article about someone getting double tattooed at a convention and I thought it was fascinating, congrats to you on the win.
 
I suspected as much, he was definately referring to the possibility of your body overloading with epinephrine not accidentally ODing on oxy, but I know my limits quite well I wouldn't be going overboard definately don't wand to end up a drooling mess on the chair;)
 
Damn it was my ankle when I went in baked it sucked but i can't imagine getting my chest done under the same circumstances.
Kudos to you hahah!
 
I wouldn't call them natural opiates my guess would be that this is the adrenaline discussed earlier(I might be wrong tho) either way the "natural" release is not going to cut it in this case
 
No, Whosajiggawaa is right. They're called endorphins though. But they're not quite as effective as an oxy. Since not a lot will be released for the pain from a needle prick. For a (for instance) bone-fracture, a significant amount does get released and it does help dull the pain somewhat. But I doubt endorphins will be of much help here.

What jiggaa said about a benzo is also true, if you're not tensing up it will also decrease the pain. A muscle relaxing benzo might also be useful. But don't take the 2 together unless you have the proper tolerance for it, they potentiate eachother quite a bit, and the combination can be dangerous (even fatal) when too much is taken (which isn't all that much for people without any tolerance. Remember with downers 1+1 = 3).
 
I've gotten a tattoo on a small dose of a dissociative (DXM in particular). It helped me to detach from the situation and made me observe it from an analytical perspective that was very interesting.

However, at the time I was fairly habituated to DXM's effects and didn't appear intoxicated; they will turn you away if you appear as such. Honestly, the pain from a tattoo is an interesting, almost meditative experience, and might be worth experiencing sober. Something to consider.
 
I am covered head to toe; also a dope fiend. the pain killer only kills so much pain but most of the time I was high on dope cuz I needed it period.

what I always would use, and worked great for first 2 hours. would be lidocaine, which you can find in Dr. Numb or so many different products. if you are covered like you mentioned, you probably know that by now. also, along w/ the Dr. Numb or if you can get lidocaine direct, if you use a pain killer, even better.
 
vacuole said:
However, at the time I was fairly habituated to DXM's effects and didn't appear intoxicated; they will turn you away if you appear as such. Honestly, the pain from a tattoo is an interesting, almost meditative experience, and might be worth experiencing sober. Something to consider.
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people who say this do not have a lot of tattoos. lol

no, the pain is not worth it. it can easily be done but for a 9HR session you will be ready to cry after hour 4. believe me, I have full chest, full back, both arms including hands, and both legs not including either of the thighs. I also have both feet done. and even still, w/ this addictive personality of mine, the pain is NOT WORTH IT
 
ImSTILLtrying said:
people who say this do not have a lot of tattoos. lol

no, the pain is not worth it. it can easily be done but for a 9HR session you will be ready to cry after hour 4. believe me, I have full chest, full back, both arms including hands, and both legs not including either of the thighs. I also have both feet done. and even still, w/ this addictive personality of mine, the pain is NOT WORTH IT
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Not necessarily. I don't have many, but what I do have are in very difficult places and quite big as well as very detailed. I personally WANT to do all of mine entirely unassisted until the end. It just feels more rewarding to me.

I have my left palm, entire forearm including ditch of the elbow, front bicep, collarbone and front shoulders, dead center sternum, and lower ribs/abs. I plan to collect a body suit, plus head tattoos and possibly face if my life circumstances permit. Maybe the eyes too O.o
 
might want to think of "life" a bit more before you go face, eye lids, etc. you also might want to consider some serious drugs; you are nuts for thinking its an "experience". no, you have not been around the industry long enough. its a needle poking your skin 100x's a minute. I've stuck a needle in my arm 1000x's but yet the tattoo still bothers me, regardless of where it goes. just covered something on my leg the other day and sat for only and hour and was aggravated come the end.

people can say what they want, the reality is it will always hurt.
 
ImSTILLtrying said:
might want to think of "life" a bit more before you go face, eye lids, etc. you also might want to consider some serious drugs; you are nuts for thinking its an "experience". no, you have not been around the industry long enough. its a needle poking your skin 100x's a minute. I've stuck a needle in my arm 1000x's but yet the tattoo still bothers me, regardless of where it goes. just covered something on my leg the other day and sat for only and hour and was aggravated come the end.

people can say what they want, the reality is it will always hurt.
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I'm not saying it doesn't hurt, I'm just saying that I would rather take the pain. If yours bother you so much that sounds like a personal issue.

Also if you recall what I said about face, etc tattoos I mentioned something about "if life permits me". Maybe I'll win the lottery or something who fuckin knows.
 
Morphine would definitely be my choice, numbing and long lasting. I'd probably add some oxy on top of it at one point too. I don't think smaller tattoos hurt that bad and I have both my wrists done but a 9 hour tattoo...yikes. Morphine with oxy as needed was what I got when I had an open fracture and it worked like a fucking charm, you'll probably have a doped up grin on your face for the duration of the tattoo though lol
 
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