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Is Bluelight dying ?

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Sounds about right tranced. Everyone still talks about " the good old days" those vary for every generation and usually come from people who rarely post aside from bitching about how amazing it was back in the day.
Every large group seems to generate a clique of people who seems to get along. Throw people into a room and they will naturally tend to break off into smaller groups of like minded people. Sadly, that is nature.

I think the thing to keep in mind is to never close your mind or yourself off from new ideas or new people.
 
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A thread like this helps to gets thing out in the open a bit, There's beem interesting debates; all excellent stuff.

Loads of new and older members chinning in, The drug threads are fairly busy too.

I think we've turned it around folks %)

Didn't take us long ef..sure we'll have our ebbs n flow but when you think what the Lounge is, we're doing pretty good!
 
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In the history of the Internet there is quite literally one thing that kills platforms. Censorship is the dagger that gets them all. Twitter and YT are playing with fire right now. Conventionally Twitter thinks that listening to social justice warrior sentiment and banning trolls/controversial users will advance the platform but this is exactly opposite of the truth. Twitter is currently dying and many YT alternatives are ready to pop up if they demonitize channels they deem offensive.

The Clinton campaign just officially called out Pepe memes for being racist giving 4chan their best troll ever. This might be the most interesting election of all time!
 
^ that is one opinion, certainly. there are others. this presents a contrary counterpoint: Why Twitter’s Dying (And What You Can Learn From It)

The social web became a nasty, brutish place. And that’s because the companies that make it up simply do not not just take abuse seriously…they don’t really consider it at all. Can you remember the last time you heard the CEO of a major tech company talking about…abuse…not ads? Why not? Here’s the harsh truth: they see it as peripheral to their “business models”, a minor nuisance, certainly nothing worth investing in, for theirs is the great endeavor of…selling more ads.

They’re wrong. Nothing could be further from the truth. Abuse is killing the social web, and hence it isn’t peripheral to internet business models — it’s central. It has significant chilling effects: given a tipping point, people will simply stop using a network, and walk away…and that appears to be what’s happening with Twitter. Abuse is just as central to tech that connects people as selling beef that isn’t contaminated with salmonella is to an industry that feeds people. For the simple fact is that no one wants to spend their life being shouted at by people they’ll never meet who are angry not at them but at the world for things they barely even said to people they barely even know. I think it’s so vital, I’ll say it again, more simply: build a platform rife with abuse, and then turn a blind eye to it, treat it as a non-issue, and you’re already on tomorrow’s list of has-beens…you just don’t know it yet.

What really happens on Twitter these days? People have self-sorted into cliques, little in-groups, tribes. The purpose of tribes is to defend their beliefs, their ways, their customs, their culture — their ways of seeing the world. The digital world is separated into “ists” — it doesn’t matter what, really, economists, mens-rightists, leftists, rightists — and those “ists” place their “ism” before and above all, because it is their organizing belief, the very faith that has brought them together in the first place. Hence, to them, it’s the totem to which everyone, including you, must pay homage, and if you dare not to bow down before it…or worse still to challenge it…well, then the faithful will do what they must to defend their gods. They will declare a crusade against you.

there's an argument this is what's happened to the lounge. a smaller and smaller number of vocal regulars contributing a higher and higher percentage of the content. it's a private club for about 15 people and new arrivals are made to feel very unwelcome. staffers who give up their free time to help keep the site running are insulted and abused on a daily basis. in short, for all but a very small clique, it's not a very nice place to be.

and your solution is to allow loungers to hurl insults like nigger and faggot at each other? that solves the 'problem'?

i ran some numbers for a one busy focus forum (other drugs) and one busy social forum (the lounge) for five years ago (2011) and the most recent full year (2015). traffic in od is up a little (0.85%) 2015 compared to 2011 and traffic in the lounge is up 7.92% 2015 compared to 2011.

if bluelight is dying and the staff are the sjw, oppressive modnazis you constantly claim we are, how can traffic in those forums possibly be higher than it was 5 years ago?

alasdair
 
Hold up I have said the lounge is in a good place many times since being made private. There was a point where you tried to push social justice warrior style policies which would of completely killed it/ was killing it.

What you posted as an example is exactly the theory I was referencing. People that leave a platform because their feeling get hurt via an anonymous platform are not people you want to hear from regardless. You can block anyone you want so that isnt the issue. I always felt like Reddit did a good job policing the spam and over the top trolls. What you are talking about is implementing the feelings police bc that will somehow save a platform that is probably dying for a multitude of unrelated reasons. Mainly being that there are so many much more interactive options.
 
David Attenborough did a documentary about a year in the life of a deep pond somewhere in Africa, where a lot of non migratory (resident) animals lived year round and was frequented by migrating herds of others.


Everything was lush and green in the wet season. The crocs and hippos and visiting elephants had plenty to eat and drink. Monkeys jumped in and out of the water with enough time to escape the crocs. Birds waded and all was well.

When the water started drying up the animals grew despetate to survive and there was less room for the hippos and crocs. Some elephants and a lot of small desperate local animals got taken by the crocs.

A lot of animals moved on to find more water and continue migrating.

Visitors still arrived from other dried up ponds and made desperate dashes for the stinking mud and faeces filled water and no animal dared go near apart from that as the crocs could no longer hide under water as it evaporated.

At the end the pond was dry, surrounded by corpses of half eaten animals, parched and dry. The crocs tried to survive by burying themselves underground.

Reminded me of the lounge, that dried up pond.

There will be another wet season to flush out all the shit and corpses eventually.
 
There was a point where you tried to push social justice warrior style policies which would of completely killed it/ was killing it.
you know that whenever you parrot that drivel, people just stop listening? the same nazi, sjw senior staff are in charge and lounge traffic has gone up compared to 5 years ago. indeed, you might argue that things are worse now (in terms of oversight) than they were 5 years ago and yet traffic is up.

What you posted as an example is exactly the theory I was referencing. People that leave a platform because their feeling get hurt via an anonymous platform are not people you want to hear from regardless. You can block anyone you want so that isnt the issue. I always felt like Reddit did a good job policing the spam and over the top trolls. What you are talking about is implementing the feelings police bc that will somehow save a platform that is probably dying for a multitude of unrelated reasons. Mainly being that there are so many much more interactive options.

the piece i posted argues the precise opposite of your claim in #187. your argument is very muddled, droppers. first bluelight is dying. then it's "a platform that is probably dying". so please demonstrate to us how bluelight is dying? because even a cursory glance at the numbers suggests that, from a traffic point of view, that claim does not stand up.

alasdair
 
I was speaking in general with post #187. No reference to bl at all. I was just watching a piece about Milo Y. getting banned from twitter for insulting that terrible actor, and that had me thinking of the topic. All I will say is there for a bit you wanted to implement some very strict rules that were going to kill the lounge that went well beyond banning a few words. You backtracked on it and now all is well. We can even say fag if it is paired with a noun or adjective though I still dont use it.
 
All I will say is there for a bit you wanted to implement some very strict rules that were going to kill the lounge that went well beyond banning a few words. You backtracked on it and now all is well.
i really have no idea to what you're referring but there have been so many lies by you and your lounge buddies and so much misinformation, it's not surprising that some of it has stuck...

it's not at all clear to me what point you're trying to make as your argument is very muddled.

alasdair
 
i really have no idea to what you're referring but there have been so many lies by you and your lounge buddies and so much misinformation, it's not surprising that some of it has stuck...

it's not at all clear to me what point you're trying to make as your argument is very muddled.

alasdair

Just go back and read the staff forums. Im sure it is all there.
 
You can't argue that the Lounge is a cliquey group to join when all you have done is hide it and make it harder for new members to even lurk, let alone join in.

Despite reports to the contrary The Lounge is still surviving despite the attempts of staff who were never able to fit in and resent the place as a result
 
Sounds about right tranced. Everyone still talks about " the good old days" those vary for every generation and usually come from people who rarely post aside from bitching about how amazing it was back in the day.
Every large group seems to generate a clique of people who seems to get along. Throw people into a room and they will naturally tend to break off into smaller groups of like minded people. Sadly, that is nature.

I think the thing to keep in mind is to never close your mind or yourself off from new ideas or new people.

A conspicuousness of EADD is ime the relatively low amount of non-British posters. That is nothing to be sad about, but it is remarkable. I've never seen an African poster for example. Seems weird for eAdd ;)

French, German and Spanish posters are also rare (ime). But I do not post a lot in the social threads. Just frequenting the Megathreads here and there.
 
Despite reports to the contrary The Lounge is still surviving despite the attempts of staff who were never able to fit in and resent the place as a result

Attempts by staff?


Do you really think that BL staff take on the role because they're tired of flogging themselves and would rather someone else do it. No offense but that's a sweeping " I have nothing to offer so I'm gonna blame the man" statement. Sorry busty but that rather common sweeping statement simply shows you've nothing of worth to contribute with regards to this subject.

The Lounge is extremely cliquey. I'd say worse than any other sub forum of BL. I can't blame them really, people just group together. It's people's ability to welcome newcomers into the fold that matters.

ZIIIRP, it's not through lack of opportunity that other Europeans don't post. It's all up to the poster. Tbf, I've noticed more Europeans and others world wide posting in eadd as of late. This a wonderful thing. Variety is a delightful thing.
 
Most people who join a forum are asking one off questions or making one off comments, they don't participate much after that. But forums do get a percent of people who really join and participate. I don't know if that percent is 3 or 30, I'm sure it changes all the time.

But the community members that really participate have attrition for all kinds of reasons:death, insanity, institutional confinement, marriage, careers, mistresses, new passion for a way different interest, and among other reasons disgust with rules,politics, policy and/or social particularities on the forum they participate.

Attrition of established participating members versus new blood (participating new members) is probably hard to calculate.

On every forum there is a sigh about how it ain't like it used to be. That's inevitable. Nothing is like it used to be.

BL likely has a way different challenge on new member numbers vs attrition numbers than it did in other bygone years because of reddit and FB. Doesn't mean its the end though. Things are going to change as change is the only constant as far as I can tell.
 
Attempts by staff?


Do you really think that BL staff take on the role because they're tired of flogging themselves and would rather someone else do it. No offense but that's a sweeping " I have nothing to offer so I'm gonna blame the man" statement. Sorry busty but that rather common sweeping statement simply shows you've nothing of worth to contribute with regards to this subject.

The Lounge is extremely cliquey. I'd say worse than any other sub forum of BL. I can't blame them really, people just group together. It's people's ability to welcome newcomers into the fold that matters.

ZIIIRP, it's not through lack of opportunity that other Europeans don't post. It's all up to the poster. Tbf, I've noticed more Europeans and others world wide posting in eadd as of late. This a wonderful thing. Variety is a delightful thing.

It wasn't like it was ever put to community vote was it?

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/744538-The-Lounge-now-a-hidden-subforum

It was funny as fuck when the staff forum was left open to the public and all the nudes were published off site though
 
A conspicuousness of EADD is ime the relatively low amount of non-British posters. That is nothing to be sad about, but it is remarkable. I've never seen an African poster for example. Seems weird for eAdd ;)

French, German and Spanish posters are also rare (ime). But I do not post a lot in the social threads. Just frequenting the Megathreads here and there.


There is an Egyptian and a South African that I know of. But not many. Probably due to the diverse languages of the African continent.

Also, BL in general seems predominantly Caucasian.
 
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