Court Upholds Federal Ban On Gun Sales To Medical Marijuana Cardholders

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Back in Oct. 2011, a Nevada woman attempted to purchase a gun from a firearms retailer outside of Carson City. The owner of the store knew the customer and knew she had recently obtained a medical marijuana registry card from the state.

Only days earlier, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms had sent out a notice to all licensed gun sellers clarifying that medical marijuana use, in the eyes of the federal government, still constitutes an unlawful use and “you may not transfer firearms or ammunition to” these potential customers.

The customer need not even admit to being a marijuana user or card holder. If the retailer is aware that a buyer has a medical marijuana card, explained the ATF, “then you have ‘reasonable cause to believe’ that the person is an unlawful user of a controlled substance.”

So even though the Nevada customer did not note on her paperwork that she had the card, the gun owner refused to complete the transaction because he knew she was a cardholder.

Two weeks later, the woman filed a federal lawsuit alleging that this refusal to sell her a firearm violated her First and Second Amendment rights, along with the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of the Fifth Amendment. She subsequently claimed that the ATF notice that clarified the legality of selling firearms to medical marijuana users violated the Administrative Procedure Act by effectively making new rules without going through the necessary processes.

In March 2014, a District Court in Nevada granted [PDF] the government’s motion to dismiss the case, noting that while the Second Amendment does protect American’s right to bear arms, that protection is not unlimited.

Additionally, unlike some of the other categories of those barred from buying guns — convicted felons, people who had been previously committed to a mental institution — the lower court noted that drug users can get around this prohibition by ceasing to take the drugs.

The Nevada woman had also argued that the law was overbroad because it could have the effect of barring a vast number of otherwise innocent citizens from owning guns. Again, the court was unconvinced, explaining that “Whether nearly half of the U.S. population engages in conduct that is illegal under federal law does not affect the illegality of that conduct.”

The customer appealed the lower court’s dismissal and today, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals issued its ruling [PDF] upholding the earlier decision.

First, the appeals panel found that the Nevada customer lacked standing to challenge the particular part of the law barring gun sales to “unlawful user” or addicts because she never admitted to being either of those things. In fact, notes the court, she has previously stated that she obtained the card but had never used it to acquire medical marijuana.

However, she is allowed to challenge the portion of the law that prohibits firearm or ammunition sales based on “reasonable cause to believe” that the buyer is a drug user.

The appeals court acknowledged that this law — along with the ATF’s interpretation in the notice it sent to gun sellers about medical marijuana — does indeed restrict the plaintiff’s Second Amendment rights, but that the burden is “not severe” because it limits only her ability to acquire new firearms, not her right to possess any she might already have.

The Ninth Circuit noted that the plaintiff “could have amassed legal firearms before acquiring a registry card,” and the laws she’s challenging “would not impede her right to keep her firearms or to use them to protect herself and her home.”

Additionally, explains the court, she could have purchased firearms “at any time by surrendering her registry card, thereby demonstrating to a firearms dealer that there is no reasonable cause to believe she is an unlawful drug user.”

In an effort to counter the plaintiff’s argument that the rules unfairly burden largely non-violent medical marijuana cardholders, the government pointed to studies indicating a link between violent behavior and the use of illegal drugs.

However, the appeals court chided prosecutors for “conflat[ing] registry cardholders with unlawful drug users. While these two categories of people overlap, they are not identical.” Since the plaintiff only has standing to challenge the “reasonable cause to believe” prohibition, any studies about the behavior of known drug users and addicts is not immediately relevant.

That said, the court found that it was reasonable to see a connection between this particular prohibition and the aim of preventing gun violence.

“The connection between these laws and that aim requires only one additional logical step: individuals who firearms dealers have reasonable cause to believe are illegal drug users are more likely actually to be illegal drug users (who, in turn, are more likely to be involved with violent crimes),” explains the court, which conceded that some small number marijuana cardholders may only have the card for expressive purposes, while also concluding “it is eminently reasonable for federal regulators to assume that a registry cardholder is much more likely to be a marijuana user than an individual who does not hold a registry card.”

Yes, admits the Ninth Circuit, enforcing this prohibition on all cardholders will inevitably result in some people who do not use marijuana being barred from buying guns, but points out that “the Constitution tolerates these modest collateral burdens in various contexts, and does so here as well.”

Regarding the plaintiff’s First Amendment claim, the appeals court agreed that obtaining a medical marijuana card is indeed a form of protected free expression. It, however, took issue with her allegation that the ATF’s 2011 medical marijuana notice was part of an organized federal campaign to stamp out state laws legalizing medicinal use of the drug.

“[A]ll the federal government would have needed to do to ‘crush’ the medical marijuana movement would have been to enforce the federal laws prohibiting marijuana possession,” explains the ruling.

Even if you take the plaintiff’s speculation as true, notes the court, it does not “demonstrate that the Government targeted [the plaintiff’s] expressive conduct of acquiring a registry card.” In other words, the court is saying that the gun law does not stop anyone from getting a marijuana card.

“The production, distribution, and use of medical marijuana are not protected by the First Amendment,” explains the order, “and efforts by the Government to impede – or even eliminate altogether – the production, distribution, and use of medical marijuana are not evidence of any conspiracy against free speech.”

Though the Ninth Circuit has affirmed the dismissal of the plaintiff’s case, she still has the option to petition the Supreme Court, though SCOTUS is not obligated to hear the matter.

https://consumerist.com/2016/08/31/...n-gun-sales-to-medical-marijuana-cardholders/
 
Wow. I knew this was the case but I'm actually kind of surprised that the 9th Circuit wouldn't reverse the dismissal. It's the most liberal in the country, with most of its jurisdiction having medical (or legal) cannabis access. This is the kind of thing they don't necessarily have to acquiesce to federal wishes on either...

But it should be noted that this woman could have gone to any other gun shop and purchased a gun. (because the MMJ registry is not cross-indexed with the background check for firearms) In a large city this is basically irrelevant, but I suppose it could present problems if the person was ever arrested/detained with the gun and their MMJ card at the same time?
 
Only in America is there a decision of what drugs can you do with your gun on you. Seriously I could buy a gun go to the liquor store down a bottle of vodka and make bad decisions. I am probably more likely to clean the gun and just have more respect for its power stoned or on psychedelics. Alcohol, stimulants, benzodiazepines I could see those not mixing well with guns... but as this is America I say guns for stoners! Guns for all (most)!
 
If you have a script for Oxy or Desoxyn can you still get a gun?

Considering Americans use the most pharmaceutical opiates and have a lot of guns my guess is yeah probably doesn't even come up. Mental health issues will deny you but if you have ADHD or chronic pain you probably aren't given a second look. I don't know the ins and outs of the laws for guns though.
 
I find it interesting that the NRA (national rifle association) which zealously fights virtually all restrictions on gun ownership loudly and aggressively has been quiet on the issue and chooses not to get involved.

This article is from 2014, but the NRA still hasn't addressed this according to more recent coverage.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russ-belville/nra-medical-marijuana_b_4740222.html

"[...] I reached out to representatives from the NRA and I got the same “no position” response. Apparently if you’re a blind hunter, a convicted felon, or an aspiring school shooter, the NRA will support your Second Amendment rights, but not if you’re some disabled pot smoker using medicine legally [like disabled veterans] in your home state."
 
you can still buy the gun of you are diagnosed with shizophrenia, dementia, and bipolar. but not if you are dying of cancer and smoke weed. Im actually surprised that there is something that prevents you from being allowed to buy a gun besides felonies...i'm surprised that felonies even stopp you from buying one in this country. fuck the usa, this country is such a piece of shit.
 
What a load of shit. This keeps up were gona see zip guns and ppl making their own simple ass guns like they do it poor countries. Doesn't have to have bells and whistles, just gotta be able to strike the primer on the round.
 
I was really shocked when I read this in the paper a few days ago.
It`s really outdated to think that someone with a MMJ card is somehow more likely to be involved with or prone to gun violence. It`s not like having a MMJ card is the same thing as being part of a Mexican Cartel.
I`m not 100% sure but I think this is based on the 1968 National Firearms Act,where it states anyone who uses illegal narcotics may be denied the sale of a firearm(along with felons and a few other things,like folks who renounce their citizenship).
With so many states legalizing cannabis,you would think this would be a non issue. How naive of me.
I`m also really disappointed in the NRA for not getting involved and helping this woman.
 
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