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That 'drugged out' look

pirate24

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The day after I do opiates I look like shit. I have pale, yellowish skin and dark circles around my eyes. What causes that? And how do I avoid it?

The same thing happens with meth.
 
Opiates used to make me look pretty healthy according to my family. May have been all that fluid retention making me bloated or the copious amounts of ice cream I used to eat.

Stims on the other hand are a sure fire way to look like shit within a week...
 
Opiates used to make me look pretty healthy according to my family. May have been all that fluid retention making me bloated or the copious amounts of ice cream I used to eat.

Stims on the other hand are a sure fire way to look like shit within a week...

yea meth next day i always look haggard, gets worse the longer you stay up. lack of sleep is fairly noticeable, that and the enormous pupil droopy eyelid look...
 
Typically from what I have seen and experienced, if an opiate user looks like garbage then it is also due to stimulant use in conjunction. Get that sunken cheeks, skinny fat, oily skin, terrible look.


My brother has literally withered away to nothing over the past year. No idea how his heart is even functioning. High dose opiates/heroin without staying healthy can also do this but it's much more sped up with stims/drinking at the same time.


There's nothing like that heroin junkie chic look.


Fucking gross. Always seem to have pancake asses, shitty teeth, and stanky snatches.
 
As others said: It's a matter of NOT overindulging AND taking care of yourself (hygiene, nutrition, proper rest, exercise, you know, that shit...) If you look and feel like shit, it's entirely your fault. Plus, you're giving drugs a bad reputation, ruining it for us folks who like to have fun with psychoactive substances without killing ourselves. :| If you can't handle the stuff, just don't touch the stuff. Children shouldn't play with matches.
 
^Usually people find out they can't handle the stuff when it's already too late and they have already become addicted. I don't think it's fair and a little shortsighted to look at it like that. But hey, whatever.
 
@Pill: That was intentionally a bit rough, I admit... but not shortsighted. I think people HAVE to take full responsibility for the shit they get themselves into. For example, I got screwed with benzos when I was younger and nobody but myself could flush that shit out of my system (with a slow diazepam taper). I don't believe in that ''illness'' crap, the ''higher power'' or whatnot supposedly helping since we can't help ourselves. If you fuck up, you're the only one to blame. If you can't handle a particular drug, if you always get sick when you use a particular substance (I almost never drink cuz I almost always get sick with that legal poison) - well, don't touch it no more, you're the boss. It's that simple.
 
I do believe it's a mental illness. But I also believe, like you, that there are ways of dealing with it and that ultimately only you yourself are responsible for messing things up, for digging yourself a hole so to speak. I also believe the only one who can climb back out is you. Although some people do need help breaking the cycle, that's a fact. Some people just get in too deep before realizing or being able to admit to themselves they have a problem. The higher power crap is something I don't believe in either, but I do believe that seeking help when you're in way over your head can become a necessity. Granted, it may make other drug users look bad. But no one wants to be dependant and/or addiced to (a) drug(s). It's just a fact that some people can use occasionally, and some just can't. I believe it's mostly acting on impulse that lands people in trouble. But there are people that can't help it. I am very impulsive myself, and I have tried countless times to quit opiates, even with professional help, but I still haven't been able to get over my opiate addiction. That's just to give you an example.

I just think you're painting a pretty black&white picture here while there's so much more to consider.

But in essence, I agree that it all comes down to one's own responsibility. Though I think it's harsh to say that addicts who have a serious drug problem 'ruin drug's reputation for the rest of the population', like I said before, no one chooses to become a junkie/addict. Starting to use drugs is a choice, becoming addicted.. Is not. It might, as you say, make drug(-users) look bad, but it's not like these people are doing it on purpose and I know for a fact that many addicts would much prefer to be clean, and try to get clean, but keep relapsing regardless of how motivated they are.

Not trying to get into a debate here, but that's just my take on it, in a nutshell.
 
@Pill: Your arguments are sensible and fair... I pretty much agree with you. When you're in too deep, you DO need help, etc. Keep in mind that I was intentionally brutal. Just tired of people ruining their health and mind and blaming the drugs for all their misfortunes - and that stupid society criminalizing and demonizing responsible users. Have a great day mate!
 
there most definitely is a "look", however this look is mostly visible to the addict eye. Specifically I am talking about opiates here, not other drugs. I have always been able to look at someone and tell.... do they have a habit?

Back in the day it started off kind of slow, like when starting a new job I would watch co workers for subtle hints of a habit, usually there was nothing. Overtime though from my own experience as an addict I gave kind of figured out the "look".

some examples- I was at pharmacy last week to get my suboxone and behind me is a female... I literally took one look at her and instantly knew she either is OR was addicted to opiates/ heroin. This person was a normal looking woman and no one would be able to tell something was off about her, but not me i KNEW. and I was right, turns out she was waiting for her script for subutext. Yesterday I got my dunking donuts and the girl that handed me my coffee was high as fuck....

other things I pick up on are locations... like I work in a liquor store... no heroin addict with a serious habit would ever walk into a liquor store for some beer? like wtf? every single cent is reserved for dope. and if you were an addict you understand that... what heroin/ opiate addict would be able to spend $20 on some beer? none.

its just something us addicts can see. Anyone who is not an addict can't see it. Thats why we can hide our habits for so long.
 
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