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Gabapentinoids (Gabapentin) withdrawal, any advice?

Blue comet- you're between a rock and a hard place. Fucking blows I'm sure. I think about your posts every time I get a wave. Had a short lasting one this AM. That's when they seem to happen. Your postings frighten the shit out of me. I took it for about 6-7 months, 900-1200/day, never more than twice a week. I stopped for 3 full weeks BC of sfx and suffered pretty badly. When I thought I was in the clear, I took it once 1200mg and suffered mildly for another two weeks. Tried again, same dose, suffered mildly for another 2 weeks. It's a shame because for me, it's a goddamn good analgesic. It's been 3 weeks since my last dose and headaches have been moderate. Blue hair believes I could probably resume using very sparingly but I'm not sure it's worth it. Here I thought I was doing the right thing by avoiding opiates.
 
I don't mean to frighten you, or anyone else, with my situation. I'm sure that I'm unique.

That said, based upon my personal experience, I obviously can't advocate for any use of this drug, and would recommend you stop it. You don't want to fuck up your CNS by continuing taking doses and feeling like shit for weeks.
 
http://www.theroadback.org/neurontin-withdrawal.aspx


Blue comet u may have a Biotin defiency
 
It's unlikely you fucked up your CNS. There is just some nutrients out of wack. You can't give up.

You also can't continue believing your own thoughts. They are filled with fear and I totally know where you are.coming from but try to have faith and.keep trying things.

This isn't your doctors fault. You are responsible for yourself. Doctors thought gabapentin was safe but have learned otherwise.

Also mineral and vitamin deficiencies make sense because that explains why some.people don't heal fast if they already had a lack.of something it may have kicked it into overdrive. Then if your missing a few foods that could support healing it would make sense that people wouldn't get better.

You probably tried magnesium with no success?
 
Try to figure out what mineral/vitamin might help - based on your symptoms, and then take buy them in their singular form. Do not buy multivitams as they have absorption issues. And get good/trusted brands.

And be sure to get the active/coenzyme form of your vitamins, for instance, one of the ones you need to be sure to get as it is the cofactor for all of your neurotransmitters is Pyridoxal 5 Phosphate which is the coenzyme for of vitamin B6.

Research the coenzyme forms as well as the chelated vitamins such as magnesium glycinate/lysinate and zinc picolinate.

As well as look into things you should take about an hour after the pyidoxal phosphate, such as n acetyl l tyrosine and 5HTP - these are the precursors for your norepiphrine, dopamine, and serotonin, all the neurotransmitters that antidepressants works on.

I am not advertising anything; I am just giving examples. These things would just help.
 
Haven't heard from Blue Comet in a while. Wondering how you're doing. Give us a quick update.
 
Still doing bad but I've been trying to distract myself. Been taking up some new projects around the house, plus have been going out on weekends with friends.

To Varimix; yes I have tried magnesium, and every time I tried it it instantly caused all my symptoms to painfully worsen, although I would feel better the next day after I take it.

My doctor has suggested that I started taking aspirin to see if it would help me feel better. I took it for a few days and started feeling worse, not sure if it had anything to do with the aspirin but I discontinued it anyway.

I'm doing my best to enjoy my summer despite all of this bullshit. Believe me its not easy. I appear to have a different emotion every day (happy, sad, angry, depressed, cheery, etc).
 
Well that's a better attitude. It may suck really bad but eventually you'll look back as a lesson that beat you down. I've gone through some long periods where my neurochemistry felt out of wack so I understand how bad it can suck.

Trying to not be a victim and blame anyone can help the attitude quite a bit.

The more you just stop resisting it and just try to enjoy yourself and do whatever you can to improve your health along with having faiththat you will heal the more likely it will happen. If you want to try an alternative practice message me. I know a guy that uses kinesiology to find out what is wrong with the body. The universe is a crazy place and with kinesiology (muscle testing) you can find out what is wrong and what is needed. I assure you that whatever you read or hear that says it doesn't work is not true. The body has a strong response to something that is true and has no response to something that is not true. It's mindblowing really but not everyone can use it and get accurate responses.

You've tried tons of drugs the last options would be a spiritual approach and alternative. Who knows maybe even acupuncture may help. I'd be willing to try anything and everything because you never know but meanwhile staying as accepting as possible.
 
It will prob help but your looking at opiate addiction getting on that. If your comfortable being on opiates long term then go for it. It may help you get through this tough period..try to keep dosing down and if possible not daily to avoid tolerance and opiate addiction. Tramadol isn't an opiate but workson opiate receptors along with sserotonin. It may actually make you jittery to start but after a few hours the opiate effects kick in.


With no tolerance Tramadol was one of my favorite..if I took more than 2 at a time I'd get brief anxiety
 
I'd be worried about the constant 5-HT 2C going in my brain if I was on tramadol for the long run... That's a long term seizure susceptibility activation...

Blue comet, if you don't mind me asking - I'm just curious is all, because I not very fond of them as medications - why are you opposed to an SNRI?

^Varimix, tramadol is a narcotic. A narcotic is defined as a drug with agonist activity at the mu opioid receptor.
 
After 2 weeks of cold turkey 900mg per day for a year, I am going back to 400mg per day and taper. Opiate WD were many times easier than this... How long should I taper for??? Will it be much easier once I reach 0mg or will I get bad acute WD again???
 
You made it two weeks you should have just stuck with it. It wasn't getting better?
 
The worst was over in two weeks then it was just some shakeyness and anger when dealing with stress. I was also using phenibut too so who knows how it would have been without it.

I'd try phenibut before going back on gabapentin. But if you made up your mind I'd start at 300 a day and go down to nothing. I'm surprised at only 900 a day it wasn't over in two weeks. Guess it depends on your health though. You need proper nutrients and some exercise to recover properly
 
I eat very healthy and lift weights daily + run, want to get ripped. It's just to help me sleep I use GHB or Zolpidem and GHB rebound revs me up. Every morning I wake up like my skin is on FIRE. But otherwise I would not get more than 1hr of sleep per night... I was also off benzo's for 2 years and off narcotics for a month.
 
I'm have been taking 600 mg 4 x daily for two months. If I were to stop taking this medication now, will I suffer any withdrawals?
I want to get off of it before I start withdrawals from it.
 
BTW, losing weight (specifically fat) on gabapentin is freaking impossible no matter how many calories you consume and how much effort you put working out...
 
I had some withdrawal from Gabapentin - which I took for withdrawal from SOMETHING ELSE! It was either a Benzo or Vicodin. I've been addicted to everything from Chocolate to Heroin so I watch for it. Though I'm not very good at it, obviously. I tried some (50-100 mg) of Benadryl and it worked pretty well. I used to take it for sleep, too. But buy the generic if you do. It's the same thing. Diphenhydramine, I believe. I don't have any around the house to check. It stays in your body for a while so the withdrawal takes longer. 8) Good luck!
 
here is a quick GABA question.

I take 800MG every morning. do you think I'd get WD's if I were to stop? I am truly just sick of taking pills and these do nothing for me. yes, may have with seizures but I also take 4000MG Keppra which I feel is more than enough; I only added GABA thinking I'd feel "good" but it did nothing for me and now just 2 extra pills I am supposed to take.


so, will there be WD's on 800MG? I've tried before and felt a little UGH but might have been mental. jumped back on quick and now want off again.
 
Only way to find out would be to stop and see. If you do have withdrawal, go back on and do a taper that is comfortable for you.

Gabapentin is odd because people can take it at high doses and get no withdrawal, or people can take regular doses and go through extreme withdrawal.
 
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