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Regional Pills/MD(M)A Discussion V. I don't understand this chemical waffle

Okay so I got some of the safrole MD, I looked at he crystals and they all seemed to be different colour which led me to believe it may be a few different drugs in the bag, I broke off two small rocks and tested them, one looked green and the other didn't react? I thought this was very strange, I then crushed the rocks up and re-tested and this is the result? Looks like proper MD, not had that familiar purple tinge for a long time. Looking at trying it out tomorrow night in Manchester to see Cassy. Thoughts on the pic?

https://postimg.org/image/ms3icitht/
 
foolsgold25 said:
Okay so I got some of the safrole MD, I looked at he crystals and they all seemed to be different colour which led me to believe it may be a few different drugs in the bag, I broke off two small rocks and tested them, one looked green and the other didn't react? I thought this was very strange, I then crushed the rocks up and re-tested and this is the result? Looks like proper MD, not had that familiar purple tinge for a long time. Looking at trying it out tomorrow night in Manchester to see Cassy. Thoughts on the pic?

https://postimg.org/image/ms3icitht/
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Interesting result, was this with Marquis? could be good to do a side by side comparison with a Dutch pill so we can see the difference.
 
Red 'Dr Peppers' anyone??

Dunno where to put this so feel free to move it .


Had a Red Dr Pepper xtc tablet at a rave in may. They were good but couldnt find anything else on em apart from on reddit.
Anyone else had these before?!
 
I Tried the Safrole MD out last night And it blew my socks off! Finally some good MD, everyone that had it (4 of us) all seemed to agree that it was seriously good stuff, rushes, empathy and I feel relatively good today just tired. :)
 
Grassman said:
Anybody heard of, or had happy mushroom pills? I think they may be uk made
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Are they like the "1 up" Marionsort of mushroom shaped? Seen a few reports on them and had mixed reviews but definately seek UK made, the UK ones don't seem to have that gloss finish or whatever you want to call it that the Dutch ones do, you know what I mean?
 
foolsgold25 said:
I Tried the Safrole MD out last night And it blew my socks off! Finally some good MD, everyone that had it (4 of us) all seemed to agree that it was seriously good stuff, rushes, empathy and I feel relatively good today just tired. :)
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Could you provide a little more info?

How much was taken (initial dose):
Did you re-dose?
Any other drugs taken before or after?
How long did the experience last?
 
I had a couple of mini coopers and was pretty underwhelmed, certainly nothing magical about them and they were a little weak.
 
Brenner said:
Could you provide a little more info?

How much was taken (initial dose):
Did you re-dose?
Any other drugs taken before or after?
How long did the experience last?
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I split it into Bombs, I made 8 so roughly 125mg In each one, i didn't re-dose, felt no need to at all. I would say it lasted around 4-5 hours and no other drugs were consumed beforehand just a few beers. :)
 
shugenja said:
You do realize the MDP2P is MDP2P regardless of if it comes via piperonal --> PMK-gly or via sassafras oil --> safrole --> isosafrole

don't you?

The catalyst for PMK-gly to PMK is well known and not chiral

after MDP2P is reached, no different process is needed, so there should be no chiral catalyst used
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The theory is that there is some other process that is in use going from PMK-G to MDMA without an intervening step, which leads to the suspected isomer imbalance that produces the subjective differences. It's mostly conjecture, but that's the best explanation we can come up with.
 
We came to the conclusion that certain steps were being missed out, taking short cuts to make the MDMA wether that's to save costs or produce it quicker, I don't know, all this science stuff goes over my head.

What I do know is hat we made a separate thread for this type of discussion because this thread turned into an arguement why the MDMA now isn't as good as it used to be. This thread is as it says for regional pill discussion, have this debate on the thread about the MDMA synth. Not being a cunt but a separate thread was made for a reason.
 
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Small_town_casual said:
We came to the conclusion that certain steps were being missed out, taking short cuts to make the MDMA wether that's to save costs or produce it quicker, I don't know, all this science stuff goes over my head.

What I do know is hat we made a separate thread for this type of discussion because this thread turned into an athuemrntbvet why the MDMA now isn't as good as it used to be. This thread is as it says for regional pill discussion, have this debate on the thread about the MDMA synth. Not being a cunt but a separate thread was made for a reason.
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Point taken, can we get a mod to shuffle this over to the right thread please?
 
Small_town_casual said:
We came to the conclusion that certain steps were being missed out, taking short cuts to make the MDMA wether that's to save costs or produce it quicker, I don't know, all this science stuff goes over my head.

What I do know is hat we made a separate thread for this type of discussion because this thread turned into an athuemrntbvet why the MDMA now isn't as good as it used to be. This thread is as it says for regional pill discussion, have this debate on the thread about the MDMA synth. Not being a cunt but a separate thread was made for a reason.
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The title of this thread ends with "my PMK-G is bigger than your P2P"
 
SquidInSunglasses said:
Point taken, can we get a mod to shuffle this over to the right thread please?
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Oki doke - all of your deep synth discussion posts have been moved to the 'MDMA Chemistry & Pharmacology thread' - I'll PM posters with links to where they have gone. I have just left a couple here to reference the conversation had and the fact that it has been moved.

The current title shugenja of the MDMA / PIll discussion - "my PMK-G is bigger than your P2P" was a joke in reference to how this thread had turned from a place to report the experiences with and the effect of local ecstasy and MDMA products into a never ending cyclic debate about the quality of various products in relation to the the various precursors used.

As a lot of the discussion was highly specialised in nature with regard to the level of chemistry under discussion, Sprout has created, as small town casual has said, a separate discussion thread surrounding such matters as posts of this nature were baffling a lot of less informed members (including myself) who simply wanted to use the thread for it's original purposes - to compare and contrast the physical characteristics and effects of various products sold as 'Ecstasy' tablets or one of the 3 main MDXX analogues and homologues that are sold in crystal form as the same AI in pills bought for the same purpose.

Stee
 
shugenja said:
The title of this thread ends with "my PMK-G is bigger than your P2P"
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Yeah and before that it says regional pills/MD(M)A discussion... Surely you read that bit first? Unless you're backwards and reading from right to left, have you got your language set to Hebrew? 8)
 
Small_town_casual said:
Yeah and before that it says regional pills/MD(M)A discussion... Surely you read that bit first? Unless you're backwards and reading from right to left, have you got your language set to Hebrew? 8)
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We're all good STC he found the synth discussion thread before I even had a chance to move the posts from here.

We just need to keep it on the front page as while the title for here retains the reference to the precursors it's easy for a newbie on the forum to treat this thread as a chemistry debate.
 
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