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Sexual Ethics in Recovery

Treezyz your candid post said it all. IME sex can be just as bad and destructive as drugs depending on how far you take things, just like medications can be misused and overused and abused. Think of addiction as a thought process (I need, I want, I get, I feel happy, I feel shame, I need again) and you will see that whether it's a being or a substance they are merely the tools to carry out the thought process. Does the body need sex? Hell yeah. But apply that thinking as if the body needed medication. If it is self destructive or destructive to others then to me it is just another manifestation of the addiction you just left and you were reaching out for a replacement. Food is no different. It can be misused in unhealthy ways after coming off drugs too. Shopping. Gambling. Even exercise can be overdone. The point is your brain is still working and thinking and you are acting out....your mind is still in addiction mode. Ethics are based on society, upbringing, and belief systems. Just make healthy, non-destructive decisions. You know-don't get sucker punched by some dude for banging his girl, don't get an STD by raw doggin' it, don't spend your electric bill dough on porn. Like that.
 
Isn't the op the same dude that claimed he was baggin' tons of bitches or something to that effect in another thread? I would probably advise to work on your mental health issues before anything else. That and your view of women because it's honestly pretty disgusting. Casual relationships are fine imo, but at least have some fucking respect for the other party. Women aren't objects, and for the guys that talk like the op I can't help but wonder what they think of their mothers. Would you talk to you mother in the same respect? To me the way someone views and treats women (or anyone for that matter) speaks a lot about their character.
 
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Raysu said:
Treezyz your candid post said it all. IME sex can be just as bad and destructive as drugs depending on how far you take things, just like medications can be misused and overused and abused. Think of addiction as a thought process (I need, I want, I get, I feel happy, I feel shame, I need again) and you will see that whether it's a being or a substance they are merely the tools to carry out the thought process. Does the body need sex? Hell yeah. But apply that thinking as if the body needed medication. If it is self destructive or destructive to others then to me it is just another manifestation of the addiction you just left and you were reaching out for a replacement. Food is no different. It can be misused in unhealthy ways after coming off drugs too. Shopping. Gambling. Even exercise can be overdone. The point is your brain is still working and thinking and you are acting out....your mind is still in addiction mode. Ethics are based on society, upbringing, and belief systems. Just make healthy, non-destructive decisions. You know-don't get sucker punched by some dude for banging his girl, don't get an STD by raw doggin' it, don't spend your electric bill dough on porn. Like that.
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Excellent advice. It is the behaviors associated with addiction that are really in need of change. Anyone can stop using drugs. Not everyone has the wear-with-all to do some deep, often painful, self examination.

nuttynutskin said:
Isn't the op the same dude that claimed he was baggin' tons of bitches or something to that effect in another thread? I would probably advise to work on your mental health issues before anything else. That and your view of women because it's honestly pretty disgusting. Casual relationships are fine imo, but at least have some fucking respect for the other party. Women aren't objects, and for the guys that talk like the op I can't help but wonder what they think of their mothers. Would you talk to you mother in the same respect? To me the way someone views and treats women (or anyone for that matter) speaks a lot about their character.
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This. It is so true. To objectify women is shorting yourself on the possibility of some excellent friendships, and meaningful relationships. Everyone is someone's mother,daughter,sister, granddaughter, friend, fiance, girlfriend etc. Most of those people don't like when you treat that person like their thoughts and feelings mean nothing to you.
 
TPD, sorry for not responding sooner. I went out of town right after I posted and really didn't have internet Access while I was gone. I'm like 2 weeks off heroin so I'm sure my hormones are jacked up right now. I mean obviously my libido as I stated. I'm not living in a fog. Things are coming back to me. Lots of emotions involving a relationship that ended as I started using again. I think I crave intimacy and relationships because to me that equals normals which equals sober. Idk. I think honesty is crucial. Be honesty with yourself. Do you need this? Honest with others. Are you okay with this?

I really do like this topic though. Lots of insight and experience in this thread.
 
@treezy, all i can say is don't chase those girls with rings. reason being, there are enough of the fairer sex around so that you don't have to. just pick one without committments. it can even be really, really dangerous when the cuckoholded man finds out. it's totally worth avoiding married/long term engaged women to avoid these unpleasant types of situations, especiallly with so many guns everywhere in america.

that said, after 1.5 months of quitting opiates the libido thing is finally calming down a bit for myself. my sense of smell isn't supernatural anymore either. so just hang in there and be proud of your rediscovered ability.
 
Is it normal on Hydrocodone to not feel sexual? I find my hormones are not there or I have trouble " finishing".
 
Yup, opioids gave me minor issues urinating at doses that got me really buzzed. It doesn’t happen to everyone, but I definitely noticed an effect on my ability to pee normally. Peeing on command has become very difficult for me once I am on any opioid for any period of time. It is very frustrating when you have to give a UA or something.
 
toothpastedog said:
yup, opioids gave me minor issues urinating at doses that got me really buzzed. It doesn’t happen to everyone, but i definitely noticed an effect on my ability to pee normally. Peeing on command has become very difficult for me once i am on any opioid for any period of time. It is very frustrating when you have to give a ua or something.
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UA? Urine Analysis?
 
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