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Xanax bars getting big in the UK including red 5mg presses, come across any?

ClemFandango said:
Never tried onanism. What's it like?
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Somehow I find that hard to believe with a name like yours.

Anywho - etizolam did nothing for me either after a while. Perhaps it was just my batch at the time. I remember boshing countless pills in a desperate attempt to fall asleep but just lay there awake all night.
 
Wilson Wilson said:
I have no trouble with RC benzos in general. Some were even specifically useful for medical use and not much else - pyrazolam and diclazepam. But I think selling the ridiculously potent ones was a bad move. Clonazolam and flubromazolam in particular would never have been put on sale if I was a vendor. I'm honestly shocked the tabloid media never picked up on them.

The most dangerous RCs are those synthetic cannabinoids. Crazy addictive, horrible side effects, horrible withdrawal. I've seen them drive people crazy and you don't even know what's in them half the time. Usually some bullshit that should be dosed at microgram levels but is instead sprayed on random herbs and sold as "Ultra Funky Lizard Spice Incense."

But the RC scene is not dead and buried at all. The cannabinoids are still going to be sold by dealers as there's a lucrative market for them. The benzo scene isn't going anywhere either, although the exact benzos on sale will change. The RC stims will just be sold as cocaine.
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I never knew about the destruction these cannabinoids were doing until I watched that VICE documentary and the recent Drugs Map of Britain on iPlayer. It gave the impression that these £10 gram packets were one particular cannabinoid, but in reality it could of been any of the 20 or so on the market.

I used to think synthetic cannabinoids were for kids who lived in Jersey with no contacts for any real weed.

What was in last week's Insane Joker pouch might not be the same as in the next one.

Do you really think people will still be searching for these cannabinoids now that they can't smoke them in the open anymore? Might as well go back to pinning 10% strength street gear. It'll cost roughly the same to support their habit.

As for the stims: you're right. Street coke and phet is going to get funky in the UK...more so.
 
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Are there any drug companies that press bars? Or is that form used only by grey or black market manufacturers?

5 mgs. is an insane amount. .5 puts me out and I have a tolerance.
 
Tinker55 said:
Are there any drug companies that press bars? Or is that form used only by grey or black market manufacturers?

5 mgs. is an insane amount. .5 puts me out and I have a tolerance.
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Yes - Pfizer - the drug company that gave their alprazolam the Xanax brand

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steewith2ees said:
I tried various blister strips of Etizest and Etilaam over the course of 3 years from various sources. I've enough experience with real benzos to qualify my opinion. I know it's a Thienodiazepine.

If u can be bothered have a read of this-

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...ances-Bill-and-Benzodiazepines-A-Presentation

- I did it back in November for RC / NPS dependents who were having trouble getting appropriate treatment. If you canbe bothered have a read of it and then tell me I don't know what I am on about.
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Mate I don't doubt your knowledge considering you are a BL mod. I've just not heard of anyone getting no effect from 10mg etizolam without a big tolerance and I know a lot of vendors sold under-dosed pellets.

Your presentation is pretty good. I could be nitpicky and say you should have listed clonazolam as discovered by Upjohn rather than as a designer drug, but who really cares lol. I can see you are familiar with the RC scene, I was not attacking you.

Edit: 2mg descholroetizolam = 10mg diazepam though? Really? I doubt that one.

ClemFandango said:
I never knew about the destruction these cannabinoids were doing until I watched that VICE documentary and the recent Drugs Map of Britain on iPlayer. It gave the impression that these £10 gram packets were one particular cannabinoid, but in reality it could of been any of the 20 or so on the market.

I used to think synthetic cannabinoids were for kids who lived in Jersey with no contacts for any real weed.

What was in last week's Insane Joker pouch might not be the same as in the next one.

Do you really think people will still be searching for these cannabinoids now that they can't smoke them in the open anymore? Might as well go back to pinning 10% strength street gear. It'll cost roughly the same to support their habit.

As for the stims: you're right. Street coke and phet is going to get funky in the UK...more so.
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People will absolutely still be using them because they are dependent on them.
 
Tinker55 said:
Are there any drug companies that press bars? Or is that form used only by grey or black market manufacturers?

5 mgs. is an insane amount. .5 puts me out and I have a tolerance.
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Pretty much every 2mg alprazolam pill is in bar form. I don't know if it's a North and South American thing, but 2mg strength bars seem to be the norm over there.

I used to buy copious amounts of 2mg Gador Alplax and Bago Tranquinal bars from Argentina. Never got any package seized back then and the packaging was shit. I mean, no stealth whatsoever. Like a baby rattle. We're talking over 10 years ago now. In hindsight, I should have ordered some of the more exotic powders coming from that region, as well. They were on offer and would have probably got through Customs.
 
Wilson Wilson said:
Your presentation is pretty good. I could be nitpicky and say you should have listed clonazolam as discovered by Upjohn rather than as a designer drug, but who really cares lol. I can see you are familiar with the RC scene, I was not attacking you.

Edit: 2mg descholroetizolam = 10mg diazepam though? Really? I doubt that one.
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You have me on the Clonitrazolam - I didn't realise It was an old recipe until after I wrote the yoke.

I'm only going on the best information I had at the time with regards the equipotency of deschloretizolam. I can't comment subjectively as after I found etizolam completely crap I never bothered with any of the other benzo - type thienos. As for the Etizolam - i didn't find them inactive in the slightest just rubbish.
 
A few of them are really impressive Consumer - with the disclaimer of course that these drugs should not really be fucked with unless you have a specific reason to use them.

My 2 favourites - Flubromazepam (which was invented by Roche anyway) and Clonitrazolam go toe to toe with most of the pharm grade benzos I have ever used - the only ones that still beat any of the NPS Benzos IMO are Temazepam and Midazolam (I haven't had the pleasure of sampling Flunitrazepam or Nimetazepam)

There's no reason for you to bother with them but don't knock anything until you have given it a whirl.
 
consumer said:
I will stick to prescibed valium and temazepam. $6 for 50 valium $6 for 25 temazepam. Fuck RC benzos.
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Im sure most UK users would "fuck rc benzos" off if Doctors were prepared to prescribe them a bit more liberally. There's more chance of a unicorn pooping out the lottery results for me than my GP giving me anything close to recreational use... Quite happy to chuck SSRI and SNRI at me after a two minute talk :\
 
steewith2ees said:
A few of them are really impressive Consumer - with the disclaimer of course that these drugs should not really be fucked with unless you have a specific reason to use them.

My 2 favourites - Flubromazepam (which was invented by Roche anyway) and Clonitrazolam go toe to toe with most of the pharm grade benzos I have ever used - the only ones that still beat any of the NPS Benzos IMO are Temazepam and Midazolam (I haven't had the pleasure of sampling Flunitrazepam or Nimetazepam)

There's no reason for you to bother with them but don't knock anything until you have given it a whirl.
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I am knocking them because they are sold without prescription and the overseeing of a medical professional. You think thats a good idea? Benzo withdrawal can be lethal. You may like them Stee but there sale is incredibly irresponsible and sorry i think i am within my right to knock them. I have treated people with severe benzo addiction and it bordered on unmanageable in some cases. Selling them to any fucker in any amount they want? Yeah. Great situation.
 
Even with a genuine need/use for benzos, or any med with abuse, habit forming, resale potential is seldom prescribed here.

USA over prescribe, UK under prescribe. What's Oz like? Have they found the happy medium between US-UK crap policy?
 
consumer said:
I am knocking them because they are sold without prescription and the overseeing of a medical professional. You think thats a good idea? Benzo withdrawal can be lethal. You may like them Stee but there sale is incredibly irresponsible and sorry i think i am within my right to knock them. I have treated people with severe benzo addiction and it bordered on unmanageable in some cases. Selling them to any fucker in any amount they want? Yeah. Great situation.
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Im not arguing that they should be freely available Consumer I'm just stating that the effect of some of them is as qualitative as Pharm Grade benzos. I didn't start using RC benzos until 2012 but I have been using them for my anxiety and to counteract my stimulant use since they first became readily available to me through work in 1999.

I know that free for all sales of these types of drugs is asking for trouble (an argument you can make for any drug that is freely available on the BM), but I have been working with these drugs and patients who are dependant on them for 18 years.
 
consumer said:
I dont use the black market. I have legitimate prescribed benzos. 50x 5mg diazepam and 25 x 5 mg temazepam every 2 weeks. Total cost $12.
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Well, as I'm only prescribed 56 5mg Diazepam tablets every 6 months by my GP due to my substance misuse issues, what is the issue in grabbing a wider select FOR MYSELF while I had the opportunity? In the UK we don't have the luxury of having a benzo on a repeat script in most circumstances, never mind 2 different ones.
 
ScotchMist said:
Even with a genuine need/use for benzos, or any med with abuse, habit forming, resale potential is seldom prescribed here.

USA over prescribe, UK under prescribe. What's Oz like? Have they found the happy medium between US-UK crap policy?
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They are not handed out easily. I have a long term relationship with my gp. She knows my situation. She prescribed them accordingly. When they are no longer needed we do a taper and i get off them. When i have a flair up i get them. Same with my back. I need oxy i get them. I am lucky to have a good doctor
 
consumer said:
I dont use the black market. I have legitimate prescribed benzos. 50x 5mg diazepam and 25 x 5 mg temazepam every 2 weeks. Total cost $12.
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Ain't that easy in the UK to get unless you go private.
And it'd cost way more than 12bucks so people tend to get it illicitly.

Having a long term GP that knows you / trusts you must certainly help though.
 
consumer said:
They are not handed out easily. I have a long term relationship with my gp. She knows my situation. She prescribed them accordingly. When they are no longer needed we do a taper and i get off them. When i have a flair up i get them. Same with my back. I need oxy i get them. I am lucky to have a good doctor
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Ditto. That's the only reason I got them in the first place. Because of the massive class action lawsuit that was brought against the NHS in the 80's for overprescribing diazepam it's like getting blood from a stone for the average patient.
 
Fug said:
Ain't that easy in the UK to get unless you go private.
And it'd cost way more than 12bucks so people tend to get it illicitly.

Having a long term GP that knows you / trusts you must certainly help though.
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I can't say the long term relationship with my GP has done me much good. He treats me awfully because of my drug abuse.

Not once have I gone to him, or any other Dr drug seeking. The only thing I've asked of him regarding my substance abuse is a referral to Drug Services. Guys a prick.

I could change Doctor but I use them that little I can't be arsed, I'd miss being able to one up the twat on things he thinks he knows best about. Thank you interwebz <3
 
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