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Heroin Weight / Confronting Dealer

scorpi76o

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I have been having problems figuring out how much h I been getting.

I recently bought a scale.

When I buy a gram it come on foil. After I use the powder I weigh the foil and it weighs 0.15.

When I first get the pack it weight 1.0 grams , total (foil & product)

Am I getting ripped off ? And If I am how do I confront my dealer?

He is an older guy , grouchy! You can tell he has been to prison a few times.
 
as in the foil weighs 150 mgs and the H weighs 850 mgs?


i am okay if i get like 100-300 mgs less than a G provided it's fire and truly exceptional product. If any less than that I will always speak up. But I haven't had this problem in many years luckily.


You've gotta weigh up a few factors before you complain, how far you'll be prepared to take your complaint (will you be able to find another dealer), is 150 mgs less than you paid for worth it as a cost of doing business, do you know many dealers ? SHit like that.
 
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At retail levels a "gram" often actually isn't precisely a gram, this applies to other drugs too (coke, even weed.) It's a fairly common if obnoxious practice. I would not probably bother confronting your dealer provided the product is satisfactory. I'd just consider the bang for the buck rather than getting tripped up about exact weight. Less than .7 would be unreasonable to call a "gram" IMO but really it's just a word. If what you got is worth what you spent no reason to cause possible drama or find a new dealer etc.
 
Thanks Fellas ! Well when you get one everyday it adds up. 6 Shorted packs like that is another g right there.

It happened again , I confronted him , and he said he had been known to make mistakes and fixed it for me.

Maybe he will pay more attention from now on.

And right now , he is the only guy I know .
 
well that sounds like a happy resolution. Glad it worked out for you and also that guy is honest about weights apparently .
 
As others said, depends on many factors.

At only a small discrepancy, I probably wouldn't say anything provided its good and I otherwise have a good relationship with the dealer. Also you gotta keep in mind, unless you know someone who can get it 100% pure, it's never a real gram, it's a gram of a street drug being sold as heroin. So long as it contains diacetylmorphine, at a high enough purity for me to consider the price reasonable, I won't make a fuss about it. So long as it remains consistent.

What's important isn't exact sizes, what's important is that it be consistent, either as good or better the significant majority of the time as it has always been for that price, barring shortages beyond our control. So long as I know how much money or weight get me how high, consistently once taking tolerance into consideration, and conformed by other users of the same dealer. And that the price is fair for that, then it's all good far as I'm concerned. It's only a problem when the same amount of money clearly gets you less of clearly the same batch as it used to without being told in advance of purchase. Or if the same weight is significantly less good than it used to be but the price unchanged and again wasn't told in advance. Taking increased tolerance into consideration as a possibility too of course.

It's not complicated, I want to know I got what I paid for, and that how much I paid for what I got was fair. However you go about it, if this criteria are met, all good. If that however is not the case, and I wasn't made aware of that before purchase despite the dealer having to have known, then I've been ripped off. The more trust and respect for the dealer I have the more ill give them the benefit of the doubt.

Now if I've been ripped off, it depends. I'm a girl, although I do know one girl dealer, and her stuff is consistent and good, it is however a little bit pricy. A little, not a lot. If she ripped me off, which to my knowledge she never has, then I might call her on it, see what she has to say. Worst case scenario, she loses a customer.

All other dealers or sources I have are men, and I wouldn't even begin to be able to match their strength if violence broke out. So I either let it go and they lose me as a customer (the luxury of having several sources). But if it's REALLY bad, like they've ripped me off big time and did it because they felt I had no way to retaliate. Absolute worst case scenario. I might inform some of my stronger, more experienced male friends from my social circle, and see what they think about it. If they think the guy ripped me off big time andor took advantage of me. Well I don't have to say anything, they'll likely want to do what they'd do if it had happened to them.

Like I said it all depends, every situations a little different. And usually id rather take a small loss than risk someone getting hurt. But very rarely theres an exception, like a new friendly source or dealer, who turns out to be not so friendly after I remind them they asked for payment in cash, not 'service'. Or more likely intentionally implied one price to begin with, then another after, and when that's both too expensive and wasn't the agreement, "generously" offer another way to pay back my supposed debt because they "feel bad that I misunderstood how much they were asking". Situations like that, which are thankfully rare for me since I'm fortunate enough these days to have several good connections that can be trusted, and have good products for fair prices. (Only been pressured for sexual favors or sex once in quite a long time now) Some still pull bullshit, but it's the fairly benign "be there in 5 minutes" arriving an hour and 20 minutes later bullshit. I can put up with that. One has it all just about, fair price, good and consistent H, fast (whole things done from call to sale in 10-20 min usually), and friendly, personable, and never hit on me. And for that he's rewarded with a reliable trustworthy regular customer.
 
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Very nice and detailed reply, Jess. I agree with the point you're making. I'd also rather take a small loss than risk someone getting hurt, and losing the connection.
 
Thanks, oh something I forgot to add. If you only have one source, and they decide to start.. Or always have been ripping you off, well the simply fact is the situations exactly what it looks like, either you put up with them, or you put up without what they're selling you, or I suppose there's one more option but it's dangerous for all involved and you definitely won't be smart to risk putting anything they've given you into your body after that, at the very least.

So by and large you got options 1 or 2 until you find a new, better connection, and we all know addicts don't often pick 2.

But once you have multiple sources, now you have some power to do something about bad dealer behavior, you can stop buying from them for a while and wait for the extremely reliable coincidence that they can suddenly do a good deal for you after you stopped calling recently. I swear it's uncanny how often that happens... ;)
 
I don't play this at all.. a gram actually isn't a gram? Lol

Step your game up, nobody needs to be dealin with this bs.

Always been one to be straight forward on false advertisement.
 
I don't play this at all.. a gram actually isn't a gram? Lol

Step your game up, nobody needs to be dealin with this bs.

Always been one to be straight forward on false advertisement.

then you say something and the next time it's 1.07 grams just to be a little bit over, but it's cut to shit. or the dealer decides he doesn't want to do business because his margin is so small that it's the only way he makes something off it and you weren't really worth the hassle to begin with...
 
I don't play this at all.. a gram actually isn't a gram? Lol

Step your game up, nobody needs to be dealin with this bs.

Always been one to be straight forward on false advertisement.

To be more specific in my first post in this thread, I meant "street level" retail or when one lacks really a relationship with the dealer or in some of the more vertically integrated street settings. Here the only thing we really buy by the gram is coke, and if you buy it on the corner (which is practically non-existent in NYC, I mean regionally) you might stand a decent chance of getting 0.7 from some random guy; if you have a proper connect, whether it's at his our your place use of a scale is totally acceptable but might be considered a bit uptight if dealing with small quantities. Professionals pad their products by adding cut though not by shorting bags.

Heroin here is of course sold in bundles, not grams (only time I bought a so called "gram" of dope it was total garbage), bundles are notionally are a gram, each bag being .1, but this means nothing and is more than often not at all true, but people here only refer to good or bad stamps/bundles/bags. I have occasionally seen people selling weed be like "oh yeah, this stuff is fire, so an eighth is actually 3 grams," well, you're redefining the metric system and looking like a bit of a douche, but not per se telling any lies. Ketamine, MDMA (or soi-disant "Mollly") and more specialized drugs sold at events and such are probably more or less subject to the same situation as coke, if it's someone you've never seen before and won't again, the definition of "gram" is flexible.
 
Always considered this to be rude since a gram really means a unit to most people and it's just as well as they might cut my precious heroin more to make more "grams"
 
Put the foil without the dope on the scale before you turn it on so it wont catch the weight. Then pour the dope on the foil thats on the scale. That is the precise weight of your product. At least thats what i do.

The foil is weighing .85 so you are definitely getting ripped off.
 
getting consistent quality in the dope game often requires compromise.

Definitely one good reason to never touch illegal hard drugs in the first place: all the fucking bullshit that goes along with them being unregulated and illegal.
 
Definitely one good reason to never touch illegal hard drugs in the first place: all the fucking bullshit that goes along with them being unregulated and illegal.
are you sure you're in the right place?
 
getting consistent quality in the dope game often requires compromise.

I largely agree with that. However the guy I'd buy dope from would always weigh his stuff out using a digital scale for you to see...hell when I first started buying from him he'd calibrate the damn thing in front of you. That was always nice. It's a sign that someone is on top of their game when their conscientious about accurate weights.

That was buying drugs in someone's home, though...if you're getting pissed because a bag someone passed you on a street corner or a parking lot is a point or two off, well, I'm not sure what to tell you.
 
I largely agree with that. However the guy I'd buy dope from would always weigh his stuff out using a digital scale for you to see...hell when I first started buying from him he'd calibrate the damn thing in front of you. That was always nice. It's a sign that someone is on top of their game when their conscientious about accurate weights.

That was buying drugs in someone's home, though...if you're getting pissed because a bag someone passed you on a street corner or a parking lot is a point or two off, well, I'm not sure what to tell you.

that could more or less summarize the thread
 
are you sure you're in the right place?

pretty sure? I know DC is about light-hearted drug talk but you can't deny there's a lot of bullshit that goes along with copping

The posters are pretty much on point (ha). It's acceptable to get 40-70mg bags of #4 heroin in New Jersey, for example.

A "Mexican gram" is supposedly 0.8-0.9g of black tar heroin, and a "Mexican eighth" is about 3.1g

I also agree that raising a stink could lead to your dealer not dealing with you anymore or cutting her product to shit.
 
pretty sure? I know DC is about light-hearted drug talk but you can't deny there's a lot of bullshit that goes along with copping

The posters are pretty much on point (ha). It's acceptable to get 40-70mg bags of #4 heroin in New Jersey, for example.

A "Mexican gram" is supposedly 0.8-0.9g of black tar heroin, and a "Mexican eighth" is about 3.1g

I also agree that raising a stink could lead to your dealer not dealing with you anymore or cutting her product to shit.

Couldn't tell you why they were 3.1s and 6.2s but they were, and are still around here.
 
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