There were droughts before that. The original drought, that brought the original problems (of new synth/new precursors) was in 1997. Prior to that...
... True words spoken in jest etc. People who got crap pills between 1990-97 got really crap adulterated pills with caffeine and worse. All proper MDMA pills were MDMA and quality MDMA at that. The only exceptions were a spate of MDEA pills, the rare MDE pills and the "Latvian" snowballs which were MDA.
So yeah, it wouldn't have been like this in 1992.
There is a post in ecstasy discussion by Le Junk. It is written by someone who knows. Written by someone who was there and has had good access for years.
This debate has been going on much longer than ten years. I know. I started it. And I ended up convincing EVAD, through the sheer weight of those I attracted here at the time all saying the same thing. MDMA isn't MDMA isn't MDMA.
But I refuse to batter my head against this particular brick wall any longer. It's just nice to see more and more people coming round to our point of view along the way.
Good post. And it has been going on since my very first account on this site in 2006.
It did seem to me at one point a simple purity issue between batches was to blame. And that MDMA was MDMA no matter the precursor.
My view on all that changed when lab testing from places like Energy Control became possible, and batches of 92% MDMA (by GC/MS) weren't as good as stuff that was only 82% (but made with safrole oil).
Add to that the change in marquis reaction and it was a no brainier people like yourself, and I'll even say it MDMAhead who i argued the toss with here was right, and myself Evad and many others were wrong. The thing was back then it was harder for us to see, because MDMA made from PMK oil was still actually decent, and the marquis went purple; it was harder for anyone who hasn't been dropping since before the dinosaurs were extinct to see
but experience always knows best and we should have listened. Because now there is no doubt the older among us who have witnessed all these changes as time went by were right all along.
I've personally spent months posting information here, hopefully it has been of some use to some of you. To others if I've rubbed you up the wrong way then sorry but everything I've said here I've backed up with credible sources.
I think it's cool this debate continues. It was forums like these I believe that made the producers realise better to press MDMA than pips. It's not so simple for them to go back to PMK MDMA or safrole MDMA though because of precursor, it's basically an impossibility but for small specialist batches, usually not made by the major Dutch firms either.
I'll continue to post here if I have some actual MDMA, and review it so we know if there is anything good about. But the whole precursor debate it's getting to the stage I'm repeating myself and I'm fed up of explaining to trolls or people who won't just read back through the threads for themselves. If I actually find out anything new on the subject I will let you guys know.
