Regional Pills/MD(M)A Discussion V. I don't understand this chemical waffle

[Grassman]

Blue instagrams were pretty decent too

 

[SmokingAces]

I have 2 Orange Teslas left. They're as good as the Dutch Lions. I'm taping them to my balls for a rave in July. Police better not get me or I'll cry. I have one Blue Tesla which is a different crew but just as good. Red Bulls, Dutch Lions and Teslas have been the standout Dutch ones for me. Trip Advisors, Orange Owls and Res UPS were pretty good too and the rest were your typical mongy mass produced crap with no magic. The difference in quality is quite profound and immediately noticeable.

Like I was saying about the orange tesla and the dutch lion, both test purple.

So do blue instagrams.

 

[Sprodo]

These light pink Oreos test purple too so fingers crossed.

What orange teslas are you all talking about as seem to be a few about ? Model X on the back ?

 

[max435]

The new ones have CP on the back with a little glitter in them.

 

[jtrance9]

There is a report on the on PR and they say this batch is weak... Not sure about that as ive never seen anything weak from CheckPoint

The new ones have CP on the back with a little glitter in them.

 

[Sprodo]

The new ones have CP on the back with a little glitter in them.

Orange Tesla, glitter in and CP on the back ?

 

[max435]

You got it

 

[Small_town_casual]

See, I want to like you. You do have some knowledge in there. Albeit rather deep down.

However you come out with things like this. Or calling people pathetic names for understanding the actual chemistry behind MDMA beyond the level at which you yourself are capable of, saying you've had more wet pussies on the end of your tongue than they've had pills. Now meph is for tramps. Why do you feel the need for the snidey digs and remarks? It only serves to make what you yourself are saying seem less credible because you can't show any respect for others and what they're saying. in turn what you'll find is people will pay less attention or respect to you because you couldn't show them the common curtesy.

I understand some have a lot more chemistry knowledge than I could ever understand but I'm not being spoken to like some idiot when I'm talking about real life knowledge, business knowledge, yeah I don't know all the science but I know the industry, sometimes you've got to look at the bigger picture and see it from another angle, do you know where I'm coming from? It's not as simple as, oh they should make it with safrole oil because with safrole oil harder to obtain and probably expensive they have to look at alternatives and they have a demand to supply and they probably can't get their hands on enough safrole oil to keep up with demand plus it's hot as guck to move by the sounds. Like I've said before they're in business and after putting food on the table and a roof over their heads etc and only being able to make say 100,000 safrole mdma pills won't bring in as much as being able to make 10,000,000 glycidate pills which will all sell. Think of it like dragons den, you go in and pitch safrole pills with the raw ingredients costing more and not being able to make as many but everyone is happy, or make them the glycidate which is cheaper, easier to obtain, can make 100x, 1000x more and yeah not everyone will be happy with them but they'll all sell, which do you think will bring in the most money? Then let's look at the risk factor, these guys are running major operations, they can use safrole which is watched like a hawk and more likely to get traced to them and then busted, major producer shutdown, no more money coming in and some hefty prison sentences... Or use glycidate which is legal and not really monitored (for now) so less chance of being traced and busted and carry on making money. I agree the more wet pussies on my tongue than he has had dids was immature and rude but I'm going through a lot of shit at the minute (not making excuse and is no excuse) head's up my ass and just wasn't up for being spoken to as if I was inferior and knew nothing because I don't have the same science knowledge by someone younger than me. like I said I might not have the science knowledge but I have as someone said "frontline knowledge" that they probably don't have, just annoys me how stubborn some are on here and can't see the situation from other angles, look at it from the pressers side imagine you were them, ask yourself what you'd do going off all that I've mentioned above.

As for the meph I used to do it, was bad on it... But now flake around and better quality pills as opposed to the pips ones it's faded away round here, cut to fuck even though it's only £10 a g, then it's only the poorer towns that it's still going rife in and the scruffy estates. Not saying I'm a snob like I've roughed it, a lot of my mates are from shit hole estates, I've been crack dens etc I ain't stuck up by any means, just it's the people that can't afford the flake tend to get that, meph got bullied out of where I live too, it took over the younger lot fucked a few people up, then it became frowned upon and never really seen it around. Well I say that but I got offered a line at a festival, kindly declined, couldn't pay me to have it now, just remembering what a mess I was years ago on it, the scatty feeling and the smell the next day!! Urghhhh

 

[SmokingAces]

I understand some have a lot more chemistry knowledge than I could ever understand but I'm not being spoken to like some idiot when I'm talking about real life knowledge, business knowledge, yeah I don't know all the science but I know the industry, sometimes you've got to look at the bigger picture and see it from another angle, do you know where I'm coming from? It's not as simple as, oh they should make it with safrole oil because with safrole oil harder to obtain and probably expensive they have to look at alternatives and they have a demand to supply and they probably can't get their hands on enough safrole oil to keep up with demand plus it's hot as guck to move by the sounds. Like I've said before they're in business and after putting food on the table and a roof over their heads etc and only being able to make say 100,000 safrole mdma pills won't bring in as much as being able to make 10,000,000 glycidate pills which will all sell. Think of it like dragons den, you go in and pitch safrole pills with the raw ingredients costing more and not being able to make as many but everyone is happy, or make them the glycidate which is cheaper, easier to obtain, can make 100x, 1000x more and yeah not everyone will be happy with them but they'll all sell, which do you think will bring in the most money? Then let's look at the risk factor, these guys are running major operations, they can use safrole which is watched like a hawk and more likely to get traced to them and then busted, major producer shutdown, no more money coming in and some hefty prison sentences... Or use glycidate which is legal and not really monitored (for now) so less chance of being traced and busted and carry on making money. I agree the more wet pussies on my tongue than he has had dids was immature and rude but I'm going through a lot of shit at the minute (not making excuse and is no excuse) head's up my ass and just wasn't up for being spoken to as if I was inferior and knew nothing because I don't have the same science knowledge by someone younger than me. like I said I might not have the science knowledge but I have as someone said "frontline knowledge" that they probably don't have, just annoys me how stubborn some are on here and can't see the situation from other angles, look at it from the pressers side imagine you were them, ask yourself what you'd do going off all that I've mentioned above.

As for the meph I used to do it, was bad on it... But now flake around and better quality pills as opposed to the pips ones it's faded away round here, cut to fuck even though it's only £10 a g, then it's only the poorer towns that it's still going rife in and the scruffy estates. Not saying I'm a snob like I've roughed it, a lot of my mates are from shit hole estates, I've been crack dens etc I ain't stuck up by any means, just it's the people that can't afford the flake tend to get that, meph got bullied out of where I live too, it took over the younger lot fucked a few people up, then it became frowned upon and never really seen it around. Well I say that but I got offered a line at a festival, kindly declined, couldn't pay me to have it now, just remembering what a mess I was years ago on it, the scatty feeling and the smell the next day!! Urghhhh

Dude your making it sound as if your the only person in this thread who understands that it's all about what they have available to them as precursors and making money. several other people have said the same thing, it doesn't take a genius to work out. You could read that in Vice.

Where were you spoken to like an idiot though? You weren't. You just took total unbridge at the science showing pills aren't as magic as they used to be due to precursor used and mix of isomers produced.

You keep saying "by someone younger than me". So this is directed at Sprout. Who is all of 3 years younger than you. Hardly that big a difference is it?
Sprout at times i do feel uses unecessary language many people don't understand just for the sake of it. He also glorifies things/is a bit of a fantasist to (the whole "want you really want is real EVE/MDEA" talk too). Making it hard for some people to understand and possibly relate to too. However his chemistry knowledge has been pretty valuable here. And your personal attacks about "I'm not listening to 21 y/o's" just make it look as if your angry at him for putting you right.

Sorry I'm not meaning to have a go btw that's just the way all this comes off.

As for meph, any meph done in rougher areas of most places won't even be mephedrone/4-MMC. It will be some weird analogue/other cathinone. You talk about cocaine being a clean drug, once you've had a habit with that...I racked up over 8k last year. You realise bang for buck what a shitty drug cocaine is. I'm not saying meph is good for you either, but at least if it's the real stuff your actually getting a buzz for your money.

In the same way good pills, your actually getting enjoyment for your money, if you get me.

 

[chojek]

Like I was saying about the orange tesla and the dutch lion, both test purple.

So do blue instagrams.

I read all the reports carefully now looking out for the purple to black reaction. Straight black I stay away from.

 

[SmokingAces]

I read all the reports carefully now looking out for the purple to black reaction. Straight black I stay away from.

I'm glad to see my theory is taking off and there are people who do see some validity in what I've said

Orange tesla - purple marquis
UFO - purple
Dutch Lions - purple
Rainbow Drops - purple
Silver bars (original press i should say) - purple
Blue Instagram - purple
Dom perignons - purple

That's probably all of the best pills in the last 2 years aswell. There's not one that goes jet black instantly that people have rated as good

 

[Brenner]

I'm glad to see my theory is taking off and there are people who do see some validity in what I've said

Orange tesla - purple marquis
UFO - purple
Dutch Lions - purple
Rainbow Drops - purple
Silver bars (original press i should say) - purple
Blue Instagram - purple
Dom perignons - purple

That's probably all of the best pills in the last 2 years aswell. There's not one that goes jet black instantly that people have rated as good

Problem is by the time the confirmed reports come out of purple marquis they are usually hard to get hold of. What's the latest one to test purple?

 

[dan88]

So what pills are the Manchester presser putting out now? Probably gonna try and source some off the big onion. I remember there Mario and Luigis and Team GB's were absolutely banging

 

[SmokingAces]

Problem is by the time the confirmed reports come out of purple marquis they are usually hard to get hold of. What's the latest one to test purple?

I don't know mate but I've seen orange tesla as still for sale advertised as 275mg which in the feedback said "purple to black"

I've no idea about Manc pills now but I'm sure treacle said the coopers went straight to black

 

[Brenner]

I don't know mate but I've seen orange tesla as still for sale advertised as 275mg which in the feedback said "purple to black"

I've no idea about Manc pills now but I'm sure treacle said the coopers went straight to black

Yeah I tested the mini coopers and they went black. The Orange teslas are probably the same, purple to black rather than staying purple. The clue is also in the dosage, decent MDMA (or the oldskool stuff im after) wouldn't need anywhere near 275MG. It would be more like 100mg to blow ya socks off.

 

[SmokingAces]

Personally if it wanst for the dodgy rating of the orange tesla vendor i would well take a punt on them. dose means fuck all ive had some bangers that were dutch. some that were uk. it matters not.

i've got a gram of clear PMK oil made mdma 100% crystals ordered. hopefully that wil hit the spot. god bless t'internet

 

[ClemFandango]

You keep saying "by someone younger than me". So this is directed at Sprout. Who is all of 3 years younger than you. Hardly that big a difference is it?
Sprout at times i do feel uses unecessary language many people don't understand just for the sake of it. He also glorifies things/is a bit of a fantasist to (the whole "want you really want is real EVE/MDEA" talk too). Making it hard for some people to understand and possibly relate to too. However his chemistry knowledge has been pretty valuable here. And your personal attacks about "I'm not listening to 21 y/o's" just make it look as if your angry at him for putting you right.
get me.

Just joining in with this minor cyber-bullying of Sprout: I must say I am not fond of his 3-FPM fuelled alliterations.

As for him occasionally using chemistry jibber-jabber that would go over the head of even the most advanced extraterrestrial races: if you got it, flaunt it...

Like, if you had a 10-incher on the flop, you might occasionally wear skinny jeans... Capiche?

 

[Small_town_casual]

Dude your making it sound as if your the only person in this thread who understands that it's all about what they have available to them as precursors and making money. several other people have said the same thing, it doesn't take a genius to work out. You could read that in Vice.

Where were you spoken to like an idiot though? You weren't. You just took total unbridge at the science showing pills aren't as magic as they used to be due to precursor used and mix of isomers produced.

You keep saying "by someone younger than me". So this is directed at Sprout. Who is all of 3 years younger than you. Hardly that big a difference is it?
Sprout at times i do feel uses unecessary language many people don't understand just for the sake of it. He also glorifies things/is a bit of a fantasist to (the whole "want you really want is real EVE/MDEA" talk too). Making it hard for some people to understand and possibly relate to too. However his chemistry knowledge has been pretty valuable here. And your personal attacks about "I'm not listening to 21 y/o's" just make it look as if your angry at him for putting you right.

Sorry I'm not meaning to have a go btw that's just the way all this comes off.

As for meph, any meph done in rougher areas of most places won't even be mephedrone/4-MMC. It will be some weird analogue/other cathinone. You talk about cocaine being a clean drug, once you've had a habit with that...I racked up over 8k last year. You realise bang for buck what a shitty drug cocaine is. I'm not saying meph is good for you either, but at least if it's the real stuff your actually getting a buzz for your money.

In the same way good pills, your actually getting enjoyment for your money, if you get me.

I know flake isn't clean, I've done the acetone wash on what I get and didn't loose much and 8k is easy done, I know people with £120+ a DAY habits, it's a demon I know but bubble/meph is something else, it's just the scattyness and smell and the URGHH feeling that's nasty, won't lie when it first came out it was bang on. As for bang for your buck, it depends on how good a flake link you have, I've had the shit and I've had the stuff that you do 0.5 in a night, have to put sunglasses on to look at it.

And if others realise about the maki g money and readily available precursors then why are they bitching hat the pressers are using glycidate, I'm sure they'd love to use safrole oil but it's probably too risky and not economically viable.

 

[chojek]

I'm glad to see my theory is taking off and there are people who do see some validity in what I've said

Orange tesla - purple marquis
UFO - purple
Dutch Lions - purple
Rainbow Drops - purple
Silver bars (original press i should say) - purple
Blue Instagram - purple
Dom perignons - purple

That's probably all of the best pills in the last 2 years aswell. There's not one that goes jet black instantly that people have rated as good

Orange Dom Perignons were demonic, I had the best night on them. Dynamite they were!!! If I knew I would've stocked up on them. I saw The Thrillseekers do a 5 hour set that night covering 15 years of trance. Pure heaven for me.

 

[Limey]

I haven't taken any drugs since November, sober and bored lol.
However, the best pills I had in 2015 were in the following order - 1) grey Dolphins (USA press MDA/MDMA mix) 2) orange teslas 3) green grenades 4) rainbow drops 5) green strawberries
Unfortunately missed out on UFO's/ Dutch lions and Dom perignons.
Wish I'd stocked up on the Dolphins, everyone got quite nostalgic on those.
The orange teslas were very good, but something was missing, they weren't as good as old pills. My pupils didn't totally dilate, however they felt very relaxingly euphoric (not mongy but not energetic either) I almost felt sedated on them and slept like a baby. The comedown is much smoother and almost non existent on new pills, the old pills seemed much more potent but had a pretty rough comedown.