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the drug reduction aspect is a joke

razordesignz

razordesignz

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Drug parts bs. Things like branding and asking what mixes are bad I have had closed and responded with 'we arnt here to help you get high' by moderates yet we have posts of people posting pictures of heroine. And discussing proper ways to use needles and shoot up, the list is never ending. This site is more of an enabler drug wise opposed to harm reduction. I want to be banned this site is disgusting I try doing helpful posts but see so many disgusting posts it's just grotesque. Me asking if a medication mix is bad is me trying to get high but this guy gets advice on how to shoot up. Or cwe. The apap is in the drug so you can't load up on bloody narcotics such as oxy. Please ban me this entire drug section site is a gateway not a harm reduction resource. I'm sick of it good bye bluelight you really are a dark site framed as a good thing. Enjoy the continues drug research studies they push they treat the users like guinea pigs adios will miss the good people.
 
Sometimes it seems a little disingenuous, I'd agree. Esp. some specific rules that I don't see the point of, like no price discussion or brand discussion, etc

But isn't the proper way to use syringes & IV a pretty relevant part of HR?
 
razordesignz said:
I want to be banned this site is disgusting I try doing helpful posts but see so many disgusting posts it's just grotesque.
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I'm sorry you feel this way. Razor, if you see posts that break the rules use the report function. Mods are volunteers here and can't always see every single post. We're everyday people just like you, and not infallible. Bluelight can't stop people from using drugs, but we're here to help users stay safe if that's what they want to do. You may find this site offensive, and you're entitled to your opinion. You could just stop logging in if it bothers you so much. But I encourage you to stick around for a while and use your knowledge to help others.
 
I agree with T.C. on this one, the idea is that through helping each other we can create a website that allows more of us to live through shared advice and experience. I would imagine, using myself as my data source, mods tend to have lives in other areas then bluelight as it takes people with a level of order in their lives to do this job. As we are all drug users, some more active then others, some retired etc, getting mods that are active and organized enough to stay around yet in the drug world enough to help and be understanding is quite the challenge i would imagine. I also have a full time job hobbies etc and still need to find the time to assist in bluelight and actively feel like i am "missing work" if i go 2 days without logging in.

But the main idea is that we need people like you razor, who see issues and report them for the correct reasons. This site takes all of us to run and it takes all of us to help someone live 1 day longer to get past their possible drug issues to get to the side of being clean if thats what they want. I say it to anyone who asks, being here is my chance to save one other person from the life i lived as a heroin addict, to help them walk away free of STDs and issues from a past life they would do anything to forget. I got lucky enough to be someone who learned from here went on to discover the needle and through shared experiences here get clean and maintain a level of sobriety i can love myself at... its all thanks to bluelight and its all because people like you report posts and keep this site operational.

I hope you reconsider as i earned my modship through reporting posts and even though i didnt mean to, being a good bluelighter who "saw the point"
 
I agree with T. Calderone. Those of us with experience as drug users have a responsibility to pass on our knowledge to the less experienced about how to use safely. My personal opinion is that much of the addiction and overdoses that occur are preventable with a little education. Yes, there is gambling in this casino.
 
Because no one ever shot up without reading an online guide beforehand, right?
Or developed an addiction?
Or ate 20 Nurofen Plus a day and died of hepatic failure?
 
razordesignz, you seem to be espousing the same view as the anti-drug regimes. No education, that will just aid them in getting high. That seems to have worked well so far.8)

There are a wide array of forums here as I'm sure you know. Drug Culture and Sober Living represent two opposite ends of the spectrum so to speak. I think Bluelight, while not without it's flaws, is a great thing overall. It sounds weird that you're thread was closed asking about medication interactions, that's a whole lot different than a "what should I take thread", though I'm not aware of the exact details so I vant say much on that. I don't see how you can think of the site as detrimental overall. No one(that I've seen) advises people to start using drugs like it's the cool thing to do.

On the contrary, I've seen numerous times people trying to talk young people out of starting drugs and/or moving on to stronger drugs. The whole point of harm reduction is that people ARE going to use drugs, whether they're legal or not, and educating them on safe practices can save them undue misery and sometimes their lives.
 
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razordesignz said:
Drug parts bs. Things like branding and asking what mixes are bad I have had closed and responded with 'we arnt here to help you get high' by moderates yet we have posts of people posting pictures of heroine. And discussing proper ways to use needles and shoot up, the list is never ending. This site is more of an enabler drug wise opposed to harm reduction. I want to be banned this site is disgusting I try doing helpful posts but see so many disgusting posts it's just grotesque. Me asking if a medication mix is bad is me trying to get high but this guy gets advice on how to shoot up. Or cwe. The apap is in the drug so you can't load up on bloody narcotics such as oxy. Please ban me this entire drug section site is a gateway not a harm reduction resource. I'm sick of it good bye bluelight you really are a dark site framed as a good thing. Enjoy the continues drug research studies they push they treat the users like guinea pigs adios will miss the good people.
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But its not your life lol.. If you care so much then run for senator and help make the Utopian dream a reality. For now we have drugs, we all cant buy new cars for our wifes on Christmas... blame capitalism not blue light. Simply becasue this is a drug forum... shit ofc people are talking about getting high wtf do you think??? They boast harm reduction so they dont get shut down... If there was such a site i would be on it, sorry to shit on your parade but some people want this. Not trying to be mean tho dude just hoping to shed light on what I think.
 
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I've learned so much from BL. As much from the ignorant posters as sekio' posts. Harm reduction is important. I always studied my drugs before using them and didn't really realize that people were unaware that taking a lot of APAP was dangerous. Being uninformed and in some cases, stupid, shouldn't be a death sentence. Well, maybe sometimes... It is my duty to help people along in our collective journey when I've learned something that they haven't yet. It is morally wrong to not teach someone how to shoot up if they're hell bent on doing it.

Bluelight has improved my life since I became a member many years ago. I'm going to do my drugs, ok? However I don't want to die in the process leaving my mother without a son and leading my father to drink himself to death.

Yes, we glorify drugs sometimes because drugs can be awesome. In the same vein, haha, that awesomeness can ruin lives in an instant. We owe it to each other to help each other get awesome. And to drugs. I suffer from addiction as well, but can I get a hallelujah for drugs? They saved my life. I for one am thankful for drugs and love. They both kill, but that doesn't stop me from giving people relationship advice....
 
lol

I don't get this site. It will have a never ending amount of younger and newer drug users and vets and people with much more experience will basically enable and assist in guiding our younger generations in drug consumption and learning. And we can't discuss things like brands which is not harmful and actually beneficial when we have a moderator saying that isn't allowed, while he is posting a list of what he is high on daily including heroine almost every day is allowed. This forum is toxic. It strays way far off the path of reduction leaders
 
razordesignz said:
I don't get this site. It will have a never ending amount of younger and newer drug users and vets and people with much more experience will basically enable and assist in guiding our younger generations in drug consumption and learning. And we can't discuss things like brands which is not harmful and actually beneficial when we have a moderator saying that isn't allowed, while he is posting a list of what he is high on daily including heroine almost every day is allowed. This forum is toxic. It strays way far off the path of reduction leaders
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Very little about human think follows logic to it's conclusion. We are all a mish mash of logic and fantasy driven by conflicting emotions. Harm reduction is in the eye of the beholder.
 
deos68 said:
lol^^^

@OP
dude if you don't wanna be here, don't log on....simple
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^ You can complain all you want, but if Bluelight posts bother you so much, try taking a break. Nobody is forcing you to keep coming back. In Drug Culture, people are going to talk about how high they are, including moderators. You already made a thread like this so I will combine them. Again, brand comparison is not productive so read our forum guidelines:

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/441015-BDD-Guidelines
 
HR is probably the best path towards keeping people safe. If prohibition and propaganda worked we wouldn't have an opiate epidemic on our hands. Due to this epidemic being on our hands it is best that people have an open an honest forum about what is safe and what is not. I am sober after many years of use. I find it helpful to post in the recovery forums because it helps keep me sober, however when I was still using I got a lot of helpful advice from this site. There were many times that I needed to read up on a substance before I took it. DiTM is also interesting as it brings most news stories about drugs to one place, and it has sources so you can actually inform yourself and formulate your own opinions (which you have done about this site).
 
razordesignz said:
Drug parts bs. Things like branding and asking what mixes are bad I have had closed and responded with 'we arnt here to help you get high' by moderates yet we have posts of people posting pictures of heroine. And discussing proper ways to use needles and shoot up, the list is never ending. This site is more of an enabler drug wise opposed to harm reduction. I want to be banned this site is disgusting I try doing helpful posts but see so many disgusting posts it's just grotesque. Me asking if a medication mix is bad is me trying to get high but this guy gets advice on how to shoot up. Or cwe. The apap is in the drug so you can't load up on bloody narcotics such as oxy. Please ban me this entire drug section site is a gateway not a harm reduction resource. I'm sick of it good bye bluelight you really are a dark site framed as a good thing. Enjoy the continues drug research studies they push they treat the users like guinea pigs adios will miss the good people.
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So you're not a fan of harm reduction. Attitudes of "not wanting people to know how to inject drugs safely and properly" are in a lot of ways what lead to increased rates of blood-borne disease and/or infections, abscesses and dead veins, among a host of other negative impacts.

It's not pretty or socially acceptable at the moment, but I guarantee you, a few more years of this "Heroin Epidemic" is going to bring society to heel on the subject.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I know my experience with Bluelight has been life altering. Sometimes, BL triggers me to use, or to crave drugs, but so does everything else in my life, so the overall impact has been positive. I might be seriously reaching here, but I like to think that the forums have saved lives or have otherwise made a positive impact in the lives of others.

And. It's a place where the content contributed by others is not censored in any way, so you will always encounter some threads that are not perfectly aligned with the principles of the site or of harm reduction. It's the price you pay for the free, uninhibited flow of information. You have to sift through the nonsense sometimes to get the really good nuggets of information. In order to participate, you really have to suspend your judgment of others, because let's face it, there's often a lot of potential judgment to be had while paroosing these forums.
 
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