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300mg Oxy habit trying loperamide for withdrawal

allaroundtheworld1

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Hello,
Im in indianapolis leaving tomorrow and going to wake up with a nasty withdrawal. I just went out and bought a ton of Loperamide and Tagamet because I've been reading how much it helps. Is this true and will I feel relief? I will be raveling all day tomorrow and I'm completely freaked out about withdrawal. How should I prepare?
 
Hello,
Im in indianapolis leaving tomorrow and going to wake up with a nasty withdrawal. I just went out and bought a ton of Loperamide and Tagamet because I've been reading how much it helps. Is this true and will I feel relief? I will be raveling all day tomorrow and I'm completely freaked out about withdrawal. How should I prepare?

Jesus, 300mg a day certainly is a large habit. You're going to be in for a nasty time, but remember that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. The good thing about oxy is though the withdrawal is extremely unpleasant, it will only get worse for 3 days. After 3 days, you should finally start to actually feel better rather than just worse & worse, and by the fifth or sixth day the majority of the physical symptoms should have subsided. If I were you I really wouldn't attempt this with just Loperamide and Tagamet unless you have absolutely no other option other than going back to opiates. Can you get your hands on gabapentin or lyrica? I find these immensely helpful in withdrawals, for me they really help that horrible feeling of just wanting to jump out your skin and seem to level out just about every withdrawal symptom other than the insomnia & the depression - it might not stop you vomiting, cramping , sweating etc completely, but for me it really did take the edge off a lot. How you might respond to it is hugely variable - some lucky people report that lyrica or gabapentin completely takes away all of their withdrawals, other people might as well be taking sugar pills. I fall somewhere in the middle. If you can get them, make sure that you stack your doses - take one or two tablets every 45-60 mins till you get relief, taking more than that in one go is useless.

Clonidine is another huge help. This will help or even get rid of completely any RLS, the sweating, the cold/hot flashes and will help to relax you, might even help you to get some sleep.

For me personally, benzodiazepines are the most essential tool in helping withdrawals. They really relax me and get rid of that horrible inner tension that accompanies withdrawals and it lets me get some sleep. Without benzos withdrawal is a fucking nightmare, with them it's still unpleasant but it's so much more bearable. For me, gabapentin or lyrica + clonidine + benzos has been the magic cure - for me they change withdrawals from this enormous, unbearable ordeal to just a few days of feeling unpleasant and shitty. I would highly highly recommend all 3. Other than that, look up the Thomas Recipe and look at the other threads for w/d advice. Hot baths, hydrating, distractions etc, help as well.
 
I'm completely out of my element and traveling home tomorrow. I can't get anything... I was thinking to try and score heroin so I don't get sick but its been years since I've done that.
 
damn u should have ordered a few ounces of kratom..that would have helped you immensely..
 
I'm completely out of my element and traveling home tomorrow. I can't get anything... I was thinking to try and score heroin so I don't get sick but its been years since I've done that.

I'm not going to lie, if it was a choice between being around my family while I'm kicking a 300mg oxycodone habit sick as a fucking dog with only OTC meds or scoring some heroin so that I could enjoy my time at home and prepare the detox for the near future in ideal conditions, I would definitely choose the latter.

As I'm sure you know, scoring heroin on the street isn't difficult at all. Do you have a script for your oxy or a dealer? If its a script then there's a slim, slim possibility that if you call your doctor and tell him that you've had a house fire or gotten robbed or some other excuse, he might reissue your script if you're lucky. If it's a dealer you get it from and the problem is that he's out of oxy then if you ask him he might be able to help you out with heroin instead. Or hopefully you'll know at least one junkie and then all you'd have to do is offer them $10 for being the middle man and I'm sure you'll get some heroin really quickly.

Failing that I've heard in America (I live in the UK so I have no personal experience of this) there are designated ghettos where it's really, really easy to score drugs. Again, I'd much rather do that then cold turkey with a habit your size. If you have a gun or a buddy or two you could take for back up it might be a good idea just in case, and I'd only go with an amount of money that you're okay with losing at first just in case you get robbed or ripped off.

Other than that, one method that has never before let me down when I've been in a new city with no connects and started really craving some heroin is to just go where there are plenty of homeless people and start asking them. As long as you follow basic common sense rules like not to front them the money and only getting a small amount at first till you establish some trust with someone then you should be fine.

To be honest I'm surprised you haven't already gone from oxy to heroin when it gets to the stage you're taking 300mg of oxy per day. In my opinion the only significant difference between heroin and oxy is the added stigma attached to heroin. Perhaps heroin might be a little more addictive and a little more dangerous as it's more sedating, but honestly IMO there's an enormous potential for addiction and risk of overdose there with both and the differences are not anywhere near as significant as the difference in stigma makes out.

So since you're already taking 300mg of oxy a day, what's stopped you from switching to heroin? Is it just the lack of availability? Practically all the addicts I know by the time their pharmaceutical habit gets that large it's inevitable that they will soon be taking heroin as trying to maintain that kind of habit with pharmaceutical opioids is just not financially sustainable unless you're really fucking loaded. Especially when it gets to the point that they're spending ridiculous sums of money per day just to maintain and not even get high, heroin starts to look a lot more tempting. So what is it that's kept you on oxy?
 
So I've gotten a lot of useful info on bl but this will be my first post. I think most importantly is don't anticipate feeling bad but visualize yourself feeling decent enough to handle things. In my own experience that can make a world of difference although obviously that's a serious habit. I've been up there too but never tried loperamide until more recently. I had cut back by then but tried loperamide to sustain me between benders. My first try was a massive dose and it was pretty daunting putting down so many pills at once even though it was easy because they are so small. It took about two and a half hours to work but it got me where I needed to be and it lasted for over a day without redosing. I absolutely believe it helped me and it even took my mind off wanting to use most likely due to the extended half life. I can also say that the gel ones were a bad idea. After about twenty minutes it was like get punched in the gut but it may be I was sensitive to the formulation? I also learned that the longer I used lope back to back the rougher I felt coming off things altogether. I also saw no benefits in lower doses which led me to believe that there is some truth to flooding the system in order to get it to cross the BBB. I tried Tagamet also but saw no difference even with 1g hours prior to dosing. So my advice is think positive, take only what you need for the shortest time you need it. But yes it does work wonders to minimize symptoms, give an energy boost, and maintain for a considerable length of time. Good luck to you!
 
Hello,
Im in indianapolis leaving tomorrow and going to wake up with a nasty withdrawal. I just went out and bought a ton of Loperamide and Tagamet because I've been reading how much it helps. Is this true and will I feel relief? I will be raveling all day tomorrow and I'm completely freaked out about withdrawal. How should I prepare?

I recommend you stay home or get some suboxone from a buddy, if you try and travel while going through a 300mg Oxy withdrawal you will end up in the ER or some shit freaking out shitting all over yourself, not being able to sleep, puking your guts up, peeing your pants and feeling like you have the spanish flu times 10,000.. Stay home and withdrawal at your house where you have a bath tub and shower and the comfort of your own home... that Loperamide trick is just that a trick, its complete and utter bullshit, it won't cross the blood brain barrier and basically it will just keep your opiate receptors in your gut sort of satisfied ... sorry man but that's the truth if your really on 300mg oxy a day, damn that is INSANE! Get some sub or stay home ... w0rd~
 
It's not a trick when I don't feel sick after a week of coming off codeine, percs, d, and xanax cold turkey but as soon as the lope was gone you bet I felt it. Sick two weeks no energy, vomiting, diarrhea, no appetite, cold sweats, RLS. It most def delayed the inevitable. There are too many personal accounts to ignore it as a viable option. Maybe it's not for everybody but like every other drug every body handles it different. I for one am grateful for the relief I got but like I said it only delayed the inevitable. Regardless of pharmacokinetics I do know when I'm dopesick...been there enough. This last round was the worst. Maybe dopesick of lope is why or maybe my body can't hack what preceded the lope as well as it used to. Relief is still relief. I will say though that if it's not effective with you personally, an airplane is the last place you wanna find that out...or on a cruise ship. Not fun there either.
 
Fuck he's probably so sick he doesn't even wanna read this post ... I feel for this guy nothing worse than having to fake enjoy while freezing , shitting , pissing every 10 minutes , gagging nausea , not eating being weird it sucks
 
Sorry it took so long to reply. Believe it or not the Lope worked. I literally can't believe it. I took 20mg 4 5 different times over the course of 12 hours. 9pm at night Thursday, 4am Friday, 6am Friday, 8am Friday and 10 am friday. I didn't start to feel sick until about 4:30 when my plane landed. The last 2 hours of flight felt like a lifetime. This actually works but i only didn't it to survive getting home. I've read a ton of horror stories about abusing Lope.
 
I'm glad it worked out for you like it did for me in that way and especially glad my horror story coming off extended use is also taken seriously. Thanks for the update! Happy trails from here on out ?
 
I don't understand how you can just leave on vacation and detox for 7 days like nothing from 300 mgs oxy I just will never understand that
 
I wouldn't go anywhere but treatment. I had a 200 mg. habit and for 2 days I was in my room until a friend got me to a Sub clinic. Sorry dude!
 
You don't need the Tagamet. All that does is slow down the liver metabolism of opioids like oxy. It won't have any effect on Loperamide, Lop doesn't ever leave the intestines, metabolism isn't an issue.
 
Idk I read on forums and online stuff that people go on vacation like Bahamas or Florida or wherever far from home and start detoxing on the plane or on the drive to their destinations and stay sick for 10 days until they get home ....

Also regarding lope I tried taking a legit dose first time ever with this drug after 3-4 years doing every opiate mainly tar , but ran out of $$ was resorting to dumb shit as you all understand anyways I took about 32 mgs didn't feel much other than this sort of rush of heat /warmness to my head and withdrawal relief for 30 minutes and went away after that .
Question is , was that enough or placebo trick on myself ? (And i try to feel it hitting me )
Question #2 what's an average dose to stop withdrawal from .2-.5 black tar IV a day habit? When I took 32 mgs (16 pills) kicking on an empty stomach id burp this burning feeling would come from my throat and stomach tasting the chemical pills not good for you anyways is 32 too low?
 
I can't speak for anyone else and everyone has their own tolerance levels based on what they've been doing, how much they've been doing of it, and how long they've been using at that rate. My first dose was 120mg. Anything less than 72mg seemed to not have the desired effect but I've read of people having success with less than that. Some require way more and tolerance develops rapidly in my opinion. I don't recommend this drug if it can be helped because wds off it were the worst ever.
 
You don't need the Tagamet. All that does is slow down the liver metabolism of opioids like oxy. It won't have any effect on Loperamide, Lop doesn't ever leave the intestines, metabolism isn't an issue.

What? No. How the hell would it help with withdrawal if it stayed in the intestine?

Regardless, I still cannot believe people use this stuff. Well, I do but goddamn, sick for a week or dead? Idk, I kicked a 300+ habit a few years ago CT and it sucks but not to the point I would resort to high doses of loperamide.
 
That is a pretty high dose to be coming off of, in my opinion it would honestly be best to try and get your hands on some suboxone or if you cant find that any other kind of opiate you can get. Its going to get real nasty and i know that kind of wd pain. Its extremely awful. So if you could find any other kind of opiate and also probably some benzos to take away from anxiety which comes with opiate wd. Even if you could fine vic's or perc's, anything like that and space them out with benzos you should be ok. The best remedy would really be a six day tapper with suboxone to come off the opiates but if your looking for something to help you feel decent while you are away then i would go with what i stated before.
 
Well the temporary Lope did work. I took 90mg oxy at 11:30 am Friday. I took 20mg lope at 9pm Friday, 24mg Saturday 4am, 24mg Saturday 6am, 24mg Saturday 8am and another 24mg Saturday 10am. I boarded my flight at 11 and was back in Palm Beach at 4pm Saturday. The Lope actually worked and got me thru fairly easy. I started getting really anxious at the 2pm part but that was because I knew I was almost home and ready to get more blue's. It did make my vision a little blurry but other that that it actually made me feel 80%.... Its completely amazing. Mine you though I only did this to get home and wouldn't do constantly. I've read too many horror stories of Lope really fucking people up.
 
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