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And apparently, engineering students no longer have to do an Extension Studies course including any actual welding. What the actual living fuck sort of engineer doesn't know how to weld? But apparently, the modern engineer just gets a technician to do all his (women are still woefully under-represented in engineering :( ) welding for him, so as not to spoil his immaculately-manicured hands or his Italian suit. And what next? Are they going to drop the maths modules, because all those horrid nasty equations are just so headache-inducing? Anyway, we have calculators now for simple sums. And for really hard sums, we have technicians .....

(I had a dog who could solve differential equations. If you threw her a ball, she would catch it every time. RIP, Chloé the Wonder Dog. Oh, how could anyone ever top your act?)
 
As much as I love your tenacity I feel obliged to point out that within the chemistry field(s) the gender balance is so ridiculously skewed in favour of women. Equations and calculations are nothing to a well learned lady. ;)
 
BecomingJulie said:
And apparently, engineering students no longer have to do an Extension Studies course including any actual welding. What the actual living fuck sort of engineer doesn't know how to weld? But apparently, the modern engineer just gets a technician to do all his (women are still woefully under-represented in engineering :( ) welding for him, so as not to spoil his immaculately-manicured hands or his Italian suit. And what next? Are they going to drop the maths modules, because all those horrid nasty equations are just so headache-inducing? Anyway, we have calculators now for simple sums. And for really hard sums, we have technicians .....

(I had a dog who could solve differential equations. If you threw her a ball, she would catch it every time. RIP, Chloé the Wonder Dog. Oh, how could anyone ever top your act?)
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I know quite a few engineers and none of them would ever require to weld...you dont pay people big money to be welding...you pay a welder...so why would you teach engineers to weld if its not something they will ever do? To compare that to maths is just plain silly to be honest..
 
Sprout said:
As much as I love your tenacity I feel obliged to point out that within the chemistry field(s) the gender balance is so ridiculously skewed in favour of women. Equations and calculations are nothing to a well learned lady. ;)
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This is good to know :) ..... Gratuitously lewd sexual fantasy involving an ancient trope of is she or he wearing anything under that lab coat? removed .....

consumer said:
I know quite a few engineers and none of them would ever require to weld...you dont pay people big money to be welding...you pay a welder...so why would you teach engineers to weld if its not something they will ever do? To compare that to maths is just plain silly to be honest..
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It is a fundamental, general underlying principle of most branches of engineering. Seeing the bigger picture is commendable, for sure, but you have to appreciate some of the details.

Besides, I don't think I could really trust anyone who called themself an engineer and yet didn't know how to weld two pieces of metal together strongly enough to withstand at least ten hits of a hammer.

You know what they call someone who knows as much as an engineer, works twice as hard as an engineer and gets paid half as much as an engineer? A technician. Yes, I am bitter. I saw the system squeeze a perfectly good engineer out of her job just because she was a woman, and mercilessly exploit the optimism of a young, idealistic workforce. I've witnessed co-workers' nervous breakdowns. I've --

-- given that shit up .....
 
BecomingJulie said:
This is good to know :) ..... Gratuitously lewd sexual fantasy involving an ancient trope of is she or he wearing anything under that lab coat? removed .....

It is a fundamental, general underlying principle of most branches of engineering. Seeing the bigger picture is commendable, for sure, but you have to appreciate some of the details.

Besides, I don't think I could really trust anyone who called themself an engineer and yet didn't know how to weld two pieces of metal together strongly enough to withstand at least ten hits of a hammer.

You know what they call someone who knows as much as an engineer, works twice as hard as an engineer and gets paid half as much as an engineer? A technician. Yes, I am bitter. I saw the system squeeze a perfectly good engineer out of her job just because she was a woman, and mercilessly exploit the optimism of a young, idealistic workforce. I've witnessed co-workers' nervous breakdowns. I've --

-- given that shit up .....
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Same with all professions Julie - designers can't hang wallpaper, architects can't lay bricks. You know what they say - those that can, do. Those that can't, teach. Similarly, those with intelligence, listen. Those without, preach...
 
My point was, though, that an engineer should have at least some idea about how to weld, since they are almost certain at some stage in their career to work on at least project which depends upon the integrity of at least one weld. And no amount of prose, no detailed pictures can ever hope to convey as much of a glimpse of what that really means, as can the simple act of joining together two pieces of scrap metal and seeing just how much effort it is to try and separate them again with a big hammer. You might not need to become expert at it, but it's something that you should know anyway. Besides helping you appreciate a process which is fundamental to most engineering disciplines, you can never know what you might need in a survival situation.
 
*Modnote*

I really cannae give a fuck about "drama" that occurs on TC or anywhere off-site but I would like to state clearly that any spillover here will get the sharp end of my Modstick faster than a teenager in opioid withdrawal ejaculates.
Not happening. Not a chance.

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Tech's really don't get anywhere near the appreciation they deserve. Have a BSc in Org Chem? Great! But someone else has an MSc? Lol, you're their lackey.
 
About what?

Sounds like a lot was happening on TC last night. When I went on it was dead ha. Typicalz
 
I'll probably pick up welding at some point, the old stick welder made out of three car batteries if nothing else, just because it's a useful skill to have. Can't be that hard to learn really, and you can always supplement your welds with hose clips if they suck. Or duct tape of course, which reminds me, I think I need to re-tape my shoe again. Bloody tape won't adhere to the upper layer worth a damn, does anyone know if they make duct tape that sticks to leather well? Maybe I should just switch to zip ties...
 
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